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Offline OABrownson1876

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John Cardinal Newman: Work on Justification; 1874, 300+pp
« on: February 09, 2025, 12:39:43 PM »
Well, I have scanned the first half of the Newman book on Justification.  I have not read it yet.  It was written in 1874, two years before the death of Orestes Brownson.  It is a shame because I would have liked to know Brownson's take on this work.  I do not think Brownson had a chance to review it. 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: John Cardinal Newman: Work on Justification; 1874, 300+pp
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2025, 07:10:04 PM »
As people know, I'm not a huge fan of Newman.  I think he was a proto-Modernist (and had arguments with Sean Johnson about it).  Cardinal Manning had the same opinion of him that I do, except I have the 20/20 hindsight of St. Pius X's later condemnation of Modernism, whereas Manning discerned it himself.

Not a few bishops in Great Britain denounced Newman for heresy.

Newman was also highly suspect of sodomy, or at the very least was incredibly hyper-effeminate in being extremely over-emotional (un-manly, as it were).

Yet he was quickly canonized by the Conciliars ... not despite but undoubtedly BECAUSE of these aspects of his life.
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Offline roscoe

Re: John Cardinal Newman: Work on Justification; 1874, 300+pp
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2025, 10:41:03 PM »
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Offline OABrownson1876

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Re: John Cardinal Newman: Work on Justification; 1874, 300+pp
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2025, 09:25:30 AM »
I read all converts with a skeptical eye.  At least Newman was interested enough to write a 300 page book on the topic of Justification.  I am interested not so much in what Newman has to say as I am in what the Fathers had to say.  Newman claimed to have read all the Latin Fathers, which is a bit a unbelievable if you ask me, but possible I guess. 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: John Cardinal Newman: Work on Justification; 1874, 300+pp
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2025, 12:37:34 PM »
Quote from: OABrownson1876 on February 10, 2025, 09:25:30 AM
I read all converts with a skeptical eye.  At least Newman was interested enough to write a 300 page book on the topic of Justification.  I am interested not so much in what Newman has to say as I am in what the Fathers had to say.  Newman claimed to have read all the Latin Fathers, which is a bit a unbelievable if you ask me, but possible I guess.

He said he had read all of all the Latin Fathers?  That would surprise me.  Have you ever seen Migne's Patrologia Latina?  It's absolutely gigatnic, with tiny print.  I don't think I could read it all in 2-3 lifetimes if it's all I did every waking hour.
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