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"In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."


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Re: A Parent's Guide to Preventing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity pdf.
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2020, 09:04:56 AM »
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  • Homeschool. 
    May God bless you and keep you


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    « Reply #2 on: May 03, 2020, 02:27:14 PM »
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    But first, a proper husband-wife relationship; husband the head, wife the heart. That's basically what Dr. Joseph Nicolosi's book boils down to:
    Eph. 5:23,28: "the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. … So also ought men to love their wives as their own bodies."
    Anyone going against this natural order will produce effeminate, disordered children.
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    « Reply #3 on: May 03, 2020, 02:43:16 PM »
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  • It's no coincidence that the increase of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity has coincided with the rise of feminism, creating gender confusion among young boys.  I wholeheartedly agree with Geremia.

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    « Reply #4 on: May 03, 2020, 03:00:48 PM »
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  • From Nicolosi's book:

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    The family factors associated with the boys’ gender nonconformity in this study were “mother-dominated father,” “closeness to mother,” “strong mother,” and “low level of identification with father.”


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    Re: A Parent's Guide to Preventing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity pdf.
    « Reply #5 on: May 03, 2020, 03:15:05 PM »
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  • I do not think Sodomy is traceable to one or two or even multiple variables. It is a complex phenomenon resulting from a combination of a variety of different factors that may affect one person differently from another.

    A female may become a Sodomite for political reasons tied to radical feminism for example. This is called political lesbianism or in more extreme forms, lesbian seperatism. In this case, the female has chosen to become ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ not due to an attraction to other females, but because of a hatred or deep suspicion of men that may be traced to bad experiences with men.

    A man may become a sodomite due to unrestrained and uncontrolled passions resulting from an addiction to pornography which may become progressively worse as the man becomes bored of the more normal forms of sɛҳuąƖ interactions and thus goes on to more extreme and abnormal forms to achieve the same high that he experienced the first time watching pornography.

    A man may see another man who looks feminine and may interpret his initial attraction as a sign that he may be "gαy" and then the mainstream media may push him to "explore" his sɛҳuąƖity.

    A female may become a sodomite due to being pressed, as is often the case in colleges, to kiss another female for the sɛҳuąƖ entertainment of men and this initial action may produce an enjoyment which may result in an exclusive interest in the same sex.


    So many other examples may be given. It really is not attributable to exclusively one thing. The best way to prevent it at this time is to be detached from society at large.

    Pagan societies in the past may have practiced sodomy and other forms of deviant sɛҳuąƖ behaviors and some philosophers may have even glorified it as superior to normal sɛҳuąƖ relations, but such views were typically confined to the elite and the commoners were averse to such practices, at least on a large scale.


    Today we have the glorification, nay the deification of Sodomites and Sodomy with protection from the state and society at large. They are immune to criticism and and the one who dares to mock their filthy practices is ridiculed, stripped of all honor, and even jailed.
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    Re: A Parent's Guide to Preventing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity pdf.
    « Reply #6 on: May 03, 2020, 05:32:56 PM »
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  • Today we have the glorification, nay the deification of Sodomites and Sodomy with protection from the state and society at large. They are immune to criticism and and the one who dares to mock their filthy practices is ridiculed, stripped of all honor, and even jailed.
    In order to reach this point, sodomites needed to be made white as snow by euphemism, what is called politically correct language. Nevertheless, it is like putting lipstick on a pig, it only works as long as people play that game.

    Secularist - My son is gαy, he is a doctor and his partner is a master chef.

    Catholic -  Oh, your son likes to get sodomized by men? And he is a doctor? Sounds like he's insane.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: A Parent's Guide to Preventing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity pdf.
    « Reply #7 on: May 03, 2020, 06:07:16 PM »
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  • I do not think Sodomy is traceable to one or two or even multiple variables. It is a complex phenomenon resulting from a combination of a variety of different factors that may affect one person differently from another.

    I agree, and so does Dr. Nicolosi.  There's usually a perfect storm of factors, but most of them do begin in early childhood.

    There are two SETS of contributing factors.  I could list the natural contributors from Nicolosi's book, and they make sense.  But there's a missing ingredient.

    These factors influence nature, but there is still the supernatural factor.

    Does a person accept God's natural law or does he reject it?

    In the case of the former, the man tries to work on overcoming these disordered inclinations and corresponds with God's grace to help him do so; in the latter, he accepts them, rationalizes them, and decides that they're not wrong.

    In the former case, the man could actually win great supernatural merit in resisting his inclinations out of a desire to submit to God.  In the latter, he merits eternal damnation.

    THIS aspect of grace and free will is one that nearly all psychologists neglect and dismiss, and so they cannot offer a complete treatment of the subject.

    It's the difference between St. Peter (a great saint) and Judas (the most notorious reprobate in history).  Both of them betrayed Our Lord, but the former wept and repented, while the latter did not.

    Some recognize that the behavior is sinful, but may fall out of weakness due to their broken and damaged natures, but others sin out of malice and attempt to justify the behavior.

    According to Nicolosi, there is a genetic component ... to this extent (not that there's a gαy gene).  You might have a boy who's not particularly athletic, is awkward, has a passive temperament, etc and then in turn he's rejected by his male peers, and sometimes by his own father.  In some cases, exposure to certain chemicals and hormones have been linked to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity as well.  So the incipient ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ does not psychologically identify with being a male.  He finds comfort in the company of females and begins to identify with them.  Failing to find masculinity in himself, when he becomes older, he sees males as being an "opposite" gender, as it were and therefore seeks them out.  Just as straight men seek the "other" in women, these men see it in men.

    It is not purely environmental (family and social dynamics) ... as can be demonstrated by families in which most boys end up being straight and only one ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.  It is not purely genetic, or genetically determined, as can be demonstrated by identical twins who are separated; in many cases, one twin is straight, the other gαy.  It's some combination.  There does seem to be something genetic that disposes them, since about 38% of separated identical twins DO also become gαy ... which is much higher than the average incidence of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity among the broader population.  So it's clearly some combination of genes and environment ... not too different from some of those genes linked to cancer, where not everyone who has the gene gets cancer, but a disproportionately high number who have the gene do.  So the genes might be setting them up for a greater chance of becoming ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.  Some genes make certain people much more apt to become alcoholics too.  There are some who can drink 2-3 beers a day for years and yet are not alcoholics, while others have a few and they're hooked for life.

    At the end of the day, what ultimately matters is grace and free will.


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    Re: A Parent's Guide to Preventing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity pdf.
    « Reply #8 on: May 03, 2020, 06:10:08 PM »
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  • I agree, and so does Dr. Nicolosi.  There's usually a perfect storm of factors, but most of them do begin in early childhood.

    There are two SETS of contributing factors.  I could list the natural contributors from Nicolosi's book, and they make sense.  But there's a missing ingredient.

    These factors influence nature, but there is still the supernatural factor.

    Does a person accept God's natural law or does he reject it?

    In the case of the former, the man tries to work on overcoming these disordered inclinations and corresponds with God's grace to help him do so; in the latter, he accepts them, rationalizes them, and decides that they're not wrong.

    In the former case, the man could actually win great supernatural merit in resisting his inclinations out of a desire to submit to God.  In the latter, he merits eternal damnation.

    THIS aspect of grace and free will is one that nearly all psychologists neglect and dismiss, and so they cannot offer a complete treatment of the subject.

    It's the difference between St. Peter (a great saint) and Judas (the most notorious reprobate in history).  Both of them betrayed Our Lord, but the former wept and repented, while the latter did not.

    Some recognize that the behavior is sinful, but may fall out of weakness due to their broken and damaged natures, but others sin out of malice and attempt to justify the behavior.

    According to Nicolosi, there is a genetic component ... to this extent (not that there's a gαy gene).  You might have a boy who's not particularly athletic, is awkward, has a passive temperament, etc and then in turn he's rejected by his male peers, and sometimes by his own father.  In some cases, exposure to certain chemicals and hormones have been linked to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity as well.  So the incipient ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ does not psychologically identify with being a male.  He finds comfort in the company of females and begins to identify with them.  Failing to find masculinity in himself, when he becomes older, he sees males as being an "opposite" gender, as it were and therefore seeks them out.  Just as straight men seek the "other" in women, these men see it in men.

    It is not purely environmental (family and social dynamics) ... as can be demonstrated by families in which most boys end up being straight and only one ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.  It is not purely genetic, or genetically determined, as can be demonstrated by identical twins who are separated; in many cases, one twin is straight, the other gαy.  It's some combination.  There does seem to be something genetic that disposes them, since about 38% of separated identical twins DO also become gαy ... which is much higher than the average incidence of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity among the broader population.  So it's clearly some combination of genes and environment ... not too different from some of those genes linked to cancer, where not everyone who has the gene gets cancer, but a disproportionately high number who have the gene do.  So the genes might be setting them up for a greater chance of becoming ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.  Some genes make certain people much more apt to become alcoholics too.  There are some who can drink 2-3 beers a day for years and yet are not alcoholics, while others have a few and they're hooked for life.

    At the end of the day, what ultimately matters is grace and free will.
    Well said.
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    « Reply #9 on: May 03, 2020, 06:18:34 PM »
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  • Well said.

    From the natural perspective, it's complicated.

    From the supernatural, it's incrediby simple:  either you accept God's law or you do not.

    Now, even if the spirit is willing, the flesh is still weak.

    But there is a world of difference between two people who commit the same sin, let's say, for instance, that both fornicated.  One acknowledges that it's wrong, feels guilty when committing the sin, and regrets it; the other fornicates and then comes to the conclusion that there's nothing wrong with it.

    This is actually a great way to highlight the errors of modern subjectivist moral theology.  Some Modernists hold that the later who decided that there's nothing wrong with it commits no sin because they're not violating their conscience.  But Traditional Catholic moral theology holds that the first man is closer to God, not the latter, because the intellect and the will of the former has it right, even if their lower nature dragged them down, whereas the intellect and will of the latter have gone off the rails.

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  • From Nicolosi's book:
    From what I've skimmed of his research, "mother-dominated [Archie Bunker-, Homer Simpson-like] father"s seem to be the biggest factor, for sons or daughters.
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