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1858 Raccolta by Ambrose St. John
« on: November 29, 2012, 10:16:21 PM »
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  • The 1858 Raccolta was translated by Ambrose St. John, the companion of Cardinal Newman.  They both went to Rome and Ambrose was granted permission by the Pope to translate the Raccolta which had only be written in Latin and Italian up to that time, into English.  Thankfully he included all the Popes who had indulgenced each devotion so we can see how far back it goes.
    In the introduction he states that EVERY docuмent in Romes states that the indulgence is FOREVER.  Also the docuмents read YEARS not days.
    I've compared the site below to an original book (it has not yet been reprinted) and found it to be accurate except for a couple spelling mistakes  Also the original has additional prayers in the back as it was to be used as a prayer book.



    www.liturgialatina.org/raccolta/contents.htm
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    1858 Raccolta by Ambrose St. John
    « Reply #1 on: February 18, 2013, 01:13:26 PM »
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  • [/b]If you truly want tradition, this book will teach it to you
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    1858 Raccolta by Ambrose St. John
    « Reply #2 on: February 22, 2013, 02:18:57 PM »
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  • You can also get this as a free EPUB or PDF file from Google books.  

    Raccolta


    If the link doesn't work go to google books, then type in Raccolta Ambrose.  It is the one with the green cover.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 25, 2013, 02:43:42 PM »
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    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    « Reply #4 on: November 25, 2013, 10:08:14 PM »
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  • A find!  :smile:
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-


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    « Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 04:51:45 PM »
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  • Quote from: Marlelar
    You can also get this as a free EPUB or PDF file from Google books.  

    Raccolta


    If the link doesn't work go to google books, then type in Raccolta Ambrose.  It is the one with the green cover.

    Marsha


    Sorry this book is 1877, 20 years later and already starting to be compromised.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    « Reply #6 on: November 27, 2013, 11:26:28 AM »
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  • Quote from: Miseremini
    Quote from: Marlelar
    You can also get this as a free EPUB or PDF file from Google books.  

    Raccolta


    If the link doesn't work go to google books, then type in Raccolta Ambrose.  It is the one with the green cover.

    Marsha


    Sorry this book is 1877, 20 years later and already starting to be compromised.


    How so?
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    « Reply #7 on: November 27, 2013, 11:39:06 AM »
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  • I would like if someone could find a Latin Raccolta, as there are a number of prayers rendered in English in the translated versions with no Latin.
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-


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    « Reply #8 on: November 27, 2013, 04:55:32 PM »
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  • Quote from: Miseremini
    The 1858 Raccolta was translated by Ambrose St. John, the companion of Cardinal Newman.  They both went to Rome and Ambrose was granted permission by the Pope to translate the Raccolta which had only be written in Latin and Italian up to that time, into English.  Thankfully he included all the Popes who had indulgenced each devotion so we can see how far back it goes.
    In the introduction he states that EVERY docuмent in Romes states that the indulgence is FOREVER.  Also the docuмents read YEARS not days.
    I've compared the site below to an original book (it has not yet been reprinted) and found it to be accurate except for a couple spelling mistakes  Also the original has additional prayers in the back as it was to be used as a prayer book.



    www.liturgialatina.org/raccolta/contents.htm


    I missed this original post. Thanks for bumping (and posting).
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    « Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 05:04:39 PM »
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    I would like if someone could find a Latin Raccolta, as there are a number of prayers rendered in English in the translated versions with no Latin.


    Here is a 1958 reprint you can buy. It has "many of the more commonly used prayers and devotions [that] are followed by the Latin text".  
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    « Reply #10 on: November 30, 2013, 09:51:20 AM »
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  • Thank you ascent!

    I am hoping eventually there'll be a scan of the Latin text itself completely too!
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-