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Nothing that I have written has anything to do with the тαℓмυdic - Protestant worship rituals of Paul VI.

Stubborn, how do you ecclesiologically handle the 23 Eastern Catholic Churches ... CHURCHES ... that use distinct liturgies derived from 4 different liturgical families?

How do you handle the presence of no less than 5 distinct, non-Roman liturgical Rites in the Latin Church not counting usages specific to religious orders, and this before Vatican 2?

I don't ecclesiologically handle the 23 Eastern Catholic Churches at all. I know next to zilch about them or what you're even talking about and have lived my faith and my life without ever having to concern myself with them.

Listen to the recording as I asked. It'll only take up a few minutes of your time.

I still believe what this priest in the recording says even if nobody else does. Below sums up the current debate we are having. The question is asked to Fr. Wathen by one of the Dimonds....

Question: Now people will say Father, that it could be changed because this is simply a matter of discipline, that the pope could change it because it’s not a matter of strictly faith and morals he could not make an ex cathedra statement to define the Mass, therefore the pope has the justification to establish a new rite – that’s what people are saying and that’s why your wrong father.

Fr. People have been given the idea that whatever the pope has the authority to do he may morally do, we deny both that the pope has the authority to introduce a new mass and we insist that the introduction of a totally new Rite with a questionable theology, and that is putting it mildly, the introduction of a new Rite with a questionable theology is not only unlawful, that is, it goes clearly contrary to the established law, but it is immoral, independent of the law of which the pope is bound.

People have the idea that the pope, because he is the head of the Church, has limitless authority. This is altogether wrong. He is not at all limitless in what he may do, he is strictly bound to what he must do and he is bound to adhere to what has been established. The role and the duty of the pope not to deviate from what has been established, but to make sure that all his subjects don’t deviate from it.

Then you are ignorant and should remain silent on all these matters.

I cannot frame that in any manner more charitably. You admit knowing nothing about Eastern Churches or pluriform liturgical rites both east AND WEST. That is worse than sophomoric.

Oh BS. I will not listen to you and your high NO thinking. The crap you're talking is as old as this crisis and I've heard it more times than I can remember from other advocates of NO thinking. Whatever you do, do not listen to Fr. Altenbach, please don't even be tempted to click on the link.