Ive seen no condemnation of Fiat, debt currency, interest loans, central banks, or the IMF World Bank all of which are absolutely EVIL and Satanic.
I see statements from secular men, honorable men, but nothing from our clergy.
To me, It is shameful.





Usury is also strongly condemned in many other parts of the Bible. It is difficult to understand how we can class ourselves as a Christian and Godly civilization when we pursue a nation on a course such as this. Our banker "money"system is THE great usury conspiracy. It makes usury an inherent part of our system.
It is economically unsound, and is wicked, vicious and defenceless method of exploitation. It is contrary to the laws of reason, to the laws of nature and to the laws of God. Such violation of the laws of nature and of God could only have resulted in bringing the great curses upon our civilization known as "depressions."The Communists want us to be drowned in an ocean of worthless currency. The privately owned Federal Reserve System (created by Paul Moritz Warburg, agent for the Rothschild's), stands ready to create that ocean.
-- Major George Racey Jordan

Thanks for the Fr. Coughlin sermon.  

This thread came up when I searched the forum using the term 'usury'.  It's short, but includes St. Thomas on the subject.

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You don't need to practice it, but there's almost no avoiding participating in the usurius system and no avoiding being victimized by it.  Any trads out there who live 100% self-sufficient, off the land, or by barter of goods and services?  

Using this barbaric way of lending without the Biblical "jubilee" ie "handing back of houses/land/other" taken for a certain duration means everything ends up in the hands of the usurius lender - тαℓмυd Jєω- satanic elite, slave master, bankers

We have lived within an illusion of democracy since the Jєω took over Banking without any comeback on the banker owners! They 'socialised' the losses!

The American way, which many despise in the UK, puts most wealth in offshoring "uber-corrupt" winner takes all types - whilst majority are left in relative poverty thrown a few scraps!

The Jєω promotes their own in secret above all others which is why there are so many in positions of importance which is well out of proportion of Jєω numbers. Just look at TV/Music/Hollywood - it ain't a level playing field!

The UK has rapidly gone downhill since the EU fascists get more control and the UK elites+Jєωs undermine and destroy all our social welfare systems - whilst making plebs take zero contract hours for work(tied to one company) - the American Way!

I have no idea if you believe Francis is a true pope, but he's spoken and written
a great deal about this subject.

His holiness had condemned no one for Usury.
He has excommunicated no one.
He has yet to utter the word J E W with regard to bankers and their evil shylocking, or Apartheid as it relates to Israel, and he couldnt spit shine Father Coughlins shoes on his best day.
He is an embarrassment.

It's almost impossible to be separated from this system. Best to just pray hard and remember this is not our home anyway, we have Heaven to get too.

Usury was condemned by Christ. Objecting to it, and physically throwing those out of the temple that were practicing it, was what got Christ killed.

I dont want to separate from this system, I want it abolished, it needs to be abolished.
The Pope and Clergy and derelict in their duty as men as Holy teachers to lead by example, to castigate those perpetuating this system and its evil.

Those that cant see this are also part of the problem as well, though to a lesser extent.
Silence is tolerance.



"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin.
The Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of a pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this world would be a happier and better world to live in. But if you wish to remain slaves of the Bankers and pay for the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits."
 -- Sir Josiah Stamp, President of the Bank of England in the 1920s, the second richest man in Britain

In reading one of the many extensive notes in the original Rheims NT, I came across something very interesting.

The note was in the Epistle of St. James for Chapter 5 verse 4.

This note mentioned the sin of withholding wages from a laborer. While they were at it the mentioned the other 4 sins that cry out to heaven.

Usury used to be one of them. So there used to be 5 sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance.

The Rheims that I study is from 1633.

So it is possible, but not very practical, since many jobs require that you don't live in a very remote place.

Apart from a mortgage, I don't see why anyone needs to borrow money.  A perfectly good car can be purchased for 5000 dollars or less and maintained.  Everything else can be saved up for.  There is enough excess income in the first world for pretty much everyone to save 10 percent of net annual income.  You only have to look at the crap people buy at Walmart to see that they could save if they chose not to buy crap they don't need.

Since interest rates on mortgages are only very slightly above inflation they are not particularly userous when compared to say credit card debt or personal loans.  So my view would be get a reasonably mortgage because in most people's lives it is necessary.  Pay it off before time if possible and save up for everything else.

Heaven has been pressing the snooze button for centuries then because Popes, people and kings have been paying and charging interest for that long.