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I confess I have not read all the posts to this point, but...

They are not *trying* to create food shortages, they ARE creating them. 

Frankly, any farmer who takes their money to do the very contrary of his vocation is an absolute coward and, possibly, committing a very serious sin.  [I know the Anti-Vulgarity Brigade will love this, but...] Just tell the Feds to "Go to Hell!" or "F*ck off!"  Cooperating with their agenda not only harms others, but also harms themselves and their loved ones. The same can be said of those who cooperate in the non-delivery of fertilizer, etc.  This is war; choose a side and be a man.

You made a false accusation. You falsely accused me of promoting the harvesting and use of baby parts.


Quote from: songbird on April 21, 2022, 09:36:34 PM

Your opinion is the opinion of a calumniator. Perhaps you are not relaxing enough Rosaries.

You made a false accusation and have neither apologized for nor retracted your false accusation.

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"fetal" = baby

"placental" = afterbirth, not baby

"placenta fetal" is a really stupid oxymoron equivalent to "not baby/baby."

I have never ever anywhere to anyone said harvesting parts from 3 month old babies is acceptable.

I have never ever anywhere to anyone said harvesting placentas from 3 month in utero babies is acceptable. Damaging the placenta at that gestational age would likely damage the baby.

In no way shape or form do I advocate anything remotely as you said.

Even if stem cells harvested at 3 months are "better" (more efficacious medically), the risk to the baby is immoral and unacceptable.

Placental (not baby) stem cells harvested from the afterbirth (not baby) can be harvested without any harm to full-term babies. Doctors used to throw away the afterbirth. Now doctors use the tissues from the afterbirth to good effect—not using only stem cells, but even using amniotic membranes, umbilical cord blood, Wharton's Jelly, stromal tissue, etc.

Reputable tissue banks use only placentas from carefully screened (medically and socially, no diseases, no crack whores) women having repeat C-sections. Though there was a brief period in the 90's when it was trendy to try to have a vaginal delivery after a first C-section, that fad justifiably passed quickly (concern for uterine rupture during vaginal delivery after a previous C-section). Currently the rule of thumb is "once a C-section, always a C-section." Because the second C-section is scheduled, it is much easier to arrange business hours care of the placental tissue than it is for an emergency C-section in the middle of the night.

If you are going to make claims about what I have said, I'd really appreciate it if you'd get it right.


Quote from: Mark 79 on April 07, 2022, 11:48:44 AM
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