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Offline Telesphorus

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The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
« on: June 13, 2010, 06:20:23 AM »
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    The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
    « Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 11:11:35 AM »
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  • In less than 10 years, and even sooner. There will only
    be three classes in the US. The very wealthy, and the
    elite class, and the very poor. There will no longer be a
    safety net because the wealth will be hoarded by the
    wealthy. And, there will be a small middle class that
    will be the police, and the military whom job is to
    protect the wealthy, and separate them from thee poor.
    This is the way in every third world country.


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    The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
    « Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 11:03:22 PM »
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  • I am not one of those who believe that America will turn into a police state complete with gulags.  American propaganda was much better than Russian propaganda -- we did the work of the Jєωs willingly, without having to be forced.  America has served its purpose, fighting for the Jєωs in war after war, and now it is about to be discarded.  It is too big and unruly to effectively police.  There is no way that all these gun-toting violent Americans would put up with it, either.

    I think there will be a huge economic collapse and that after that, essentially, America will be reduced to a wasteland populated by roving gangs and tribes, with sporadic and pointless local cινιℓ ωαrs breaking out.  It would be better if Americans accepted Catholic rule and certain limitations of freedom, but that is not the American way, is it?

    Then it will probably somehow be destroyed completely like Atlantis.  Check Apocalypse 18:21 -- Mystery Babylon is America.
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    The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
    « Reply #3 on: June 16, 2010, 09:39:17 AM »
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  • Thanks for this video.  Several years ago, I saw an interview with Mrs. Warren regarding her book, The Two Income Trap.   My husband and I had already experienced the Trap and found her views quite insightful.  Once again, I found this lecture quite insightful.  Unfortunately most moderns don't believe the significance of real data.  I have known for decades now, as we have experienced it personally, that the cost of housing, health insurance, and the costs of actually keeping Mom in the workforce have created a dependency on dual incomes.  We were once apart of it and were shocked at how much it was costing us.  We were literally saving change to buy milk for our 3 children.  The transmission going out on our 1 year old vehicle was ultimately the catalyst for change.  We bought some really good Christian budgeting books and realized the insanity of modern living.  We moved 1000 miles across country for better wages for my husband, affordable housing, and as Mrs. Warren suggested, good public schools.  That was 6 years ago.  Our growth, however, has continued us on this path.  We are now looking for ways for my husband and I to become independent financially.  Since we are beginning homeschooling, we are also considering moving into a farmhouse, having a few chickens and a larger garden etc.  It just seems the natural place to go now.  We've long realized there is really only the wealthy and the ever expanding poor.  What middle class?  It really has eluded us.

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    The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
    « Reply #4 on: June 16, 2010, 10:04:41 AM »
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  • Quote from: Raoul76
    I am not one of those who believe that America will turn into a police state complete with gulags.  American propaganda was much better than Russian propaganda -- we did the work of the Jєωs willingly, without having to be forced.  America has served its purpose, fighting for the Jєωs in war after war, and now it is about to be discarded.  It is too big and unruly to effectively police.  There is no way that all these gun-toting violent Americans would put up with it, either.

    I think there will be a huge economic collapse and that after that, essentially, America will be reduced to a wasteland populated by roving gangs and tribes, with sporadic and pointless local cινιℓ ωαrs breaking out.  It would be better if Americans accepted Catholic rule and certain limitations of freedom, but that is not the American way, is it?

    Then it will probably somehow be destroyed completely like Atlantis.  Check Apocalypse 18:21 -- Mystery Babylon is America.


    Babylon is actually the  man of SIn and his govt, but USA is a foreshadow

    you do not belevie the USA is a police state nor will ahve gulags? geesh, guess those FEMA camps are not coming then either and the Patriot act will not be enforced......
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic


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    The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
    « Reply #5 on: June 16, 2010, 12:23:02 PM »
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  • I used to belong to the middle class (kind of toward the upper part of it), now we are low income (or, as some charitable people like to refer to us as "trailer trash") which is to say:  we are poor.    You'd be surprised at how much you can live without when you have no choice.  

    Since our new president came into office, life has gotten harder and I suspect it will continue to do so.  The first to be hard hit are people like us who haven't much to begin with.  But, as long as folks are still lining up with their new vehicles at latte stands, we still have a ways to go before the middle class is hit.

    There is no place to hide.  Even if you happen to find a little corner where it hasn't hit yet, it will eventually.  


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    The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
    « Reply #6 on: June 16, 2010, 12:26:33 PM »
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  • Obama is just another heel given to us by NWO-your loss of moeny is result of a lot of things over the many yrs, but 2 Bush started "wars", massive spending, bailouts,etc under Bush did not help.......cant fight wars and increase non0military domestic spending 43% ( 2000-2004 GOA) without consequences...

    Poor does not equal trailer trash.....my grandparents had little and were NOT trash...there is  a difference......

    again, some deep seated issues going on there..... :turban:
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    The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
    « Reply #7 on: June 16, 2010, 12:29:42 PM »
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  • Considering the vast majority of those considered "middle class" have a net worth that is NEGATIVE, it is fair to say the existence of a 'middle class' is an illusion -- i.e., it already collapsed.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
    « Reply #8 on: June 16, 2010, 12:52:09 PM »
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  • Quote from: gladius_veritatis
    Considering the vast majority of those considered "middle class" have a net worth that is NEGATIVE, it is fair to say the existence of a 'middle class' is an illusion -- i.e., it already collapsed.


    well said, have land I cannot sell and liekly will never-yet the priveledge of owning it and paying taxes........

    the one thing keeping me from being debt free.....
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