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Offline trad123

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Reopen the economy
« on: April 09, 2020, 10:53:58 PM »
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  • When I talk with my co-workers everyone agrees that as long as one does not get an infection in the lungs you should be fine. The only real concern is potentially passing it along to others in the household, especially those that have grandparents living with them.

    They should at least open the economy back up and allow people to go to work.

    Those that are more susceptible, and those that live with those that are more susceptible should stay home.

    I'm thinking moreso of the elderly and the morbidly obese. I can see how both would more affected by a lower ability to breathe.




    WHO: Q&A: Similarities and differences – COVID-19 and influenza

    https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-similarities-and-differences-covid-19-and-influenza#


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    How are COVID-19 and influenza viruses different?

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    Children are important drivers of influenza virus transmission in the community. For COVID-19 virus, initial data indicates that children are less affected than adults and that clinical attack rates in the 0-19 age group are low. Further preliminary data from household transmission studies in China suggest that children are infected from adults, rather than vice versa.

    (. . .)

    How are COVID-19 and influenza viruses different?

    (. . .)

    While the range of symptoms for the two viruses is similar, the fraction with severe disease appears to be different. For COVID-19, data to date suggest that 80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infection, requiring oxygen and 5% are critical infections, requiring ventilation. These fractions of severe and critical infection would be higher than what is observed for influenza infection.

    Those most at risk for severe influenza infection are children, pregnant women, elderly, those with underlying chronic medical conditions and those who are immunosuppressed. For COVID-19, our current understanding is that older age and underlying conditions increase the risk for severe infection.

    Mortality for COVID-19 appears higher than for influenza, especially seasonal influenza. While the true mortality of COVID-19 will take some time to fully understand, the data we have so far indicate that the crude mortality ratio (the number of reported deaths divided by the reported cases) is between 3-4%, the infection mortality rate (the number of reported deaths divided by the number of infections) will be lower. For seasonal influenza, mortality is usually well below 0.1%. However, mortality is to a large extent determined by access to and quality of health care.


    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.


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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #1 on: April 10, 2020, 08:04:18 AM »
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  • When I talk with my co-workers everyone agrees that as long as one does not get an infection in the lungs you should be fine.

    There's mounting evidence that this is not in fact a respiratory disease, but a blood disease that makes the blood incapable of transporting oxygen.  That's why the ventilators don't help.


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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #2 on: April 10, 2020, 08:05:59 AM »
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  • You're missing the point about why they're closing the economy.  They have other agendas here; it's not about the lives and wellbeings of citizens.

    So far the Fed has manufactured about 3.5 trillion dollars out of thin air to funnel to the bankers (of a certain ethnic persuasion) while they throw a thousand-dollar pittance at the people who have lost their jobs in an attempt to distract them and pay them off.

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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #3 on: April 10, 2020, 08:19:39 AM »
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  • You're missing the point about why they're closing the economy.  They have other agendas here; it's not about the lives and wellbeings of citizens.

    So far the Fed has manufactured about 3.5 trillion dollars out of thin air to funnel to the bankers (of a certain ethnic persuasion) while they throw a thousand-dollar pittance at the people who have lost their jobs in an attempt to distract them and pay them off.
    That and Trump is getting played by his own staff because they're all ancient democrat appointments who all have ties back to the WHO and to Bill Gates. I can bring up 30 articles about it right now if people don't believe me. Fauci should be arrested for terrorist collusion and espionage just for working with Bill Gates. Gates owns the Wuhan lab, owns the patent to the virus, etc. The agenda is clear, anyone who can't see it needs to shut off the Jєω box and read some real news. Like https://www.thelibertydaily.com and other non-Jєω controlled media.

    Don't even get me started on the tests and 5G.

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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #4 on: April 10, 2020, 08:53:10 AM »
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  • That and Trump is getting played by his own staff because they're all ancient democrat appointments who all have ties back to the WHO and to Bill Gates. I can bring up 30 articles about it right now if people don't believe me. Fauci should be arrested for terrorist collusion and espionage just for working with Bill Gates. Gates owns the Wuhan lab, owns the patent to the virus, etc. The agenda is clear, anyone who can't see it needs to shut off the Jєω box and read some real news. Like https://www.thelibertydaily.com and other non-Jєω controlled media.

    Don't even get me started on the tests and 5G.

    Soros also has a large stake in a biolab near Wuhan.  Both Soros and Gates should have been arrested long ago.  Gates' forced vaccinations in Africa sterilized millions of girls there, and his forced polio vax program paralyzed half a million children in India over 15 years before India finally got wise to him and kicked him it.  These are both international-level mass murderers.

    Look, people don't become that rich without, one way or another, having sold their souls for it.  Gates is no computer genius either.  They simply stole the technology for Windows from Xerox (Jobs did the same thing for Apple).  Both Microsoft and Apple hired a lead developer from Xerox who had developed the first graphical user interface.

    Why did Google, Facebook, and Twitter become so huge and create monopolies in their respective areas ... when there were better competing products out there for each of these?  It's because the government funded and promoted them so they could control information.  Google's search results are clearly filtered.  Go ahead and search "vaccines and autism".  You'll get a hundred entries claiming to debunk the link before you find one that argues that there is one.  Or search for "flat earth" (whether or not you believe in it) and the first 100 or so links are all ridiculing and debunking it.  Since Google controls what people can find on the internet, you can control what people know by filtering information.


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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #5 on: April 10, 2020, 09:25:04 AM »
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  • Soros also has a large stake in a biolab near Wuhan.  Both Soros and Gates should have been arrested long ago.  Gates' forced vaccinations in Africa sterilized millions of girls there, and his forced polio vax program paralyzed half a million children in India over 15 years before India finally got wise to him and kicked him it.  These are both international-level mass murderers.

    Look, people don't become that rich without, one way or another, having sold their souls for it.  Gates is no computer genius either.  They simply stole the technology for Windows from Xerox (Jobs did the same thing for Apple).  Both Microsoft and Apple hired a lead developer from Xerox who had developed the first graphical user interface.

    Why did Google, Facebook, and Twitter become so huge and create monopolies in their respective areas ... when there were better competing products out there for each of these?  It's because the government funded and promoted them so they could control information.  Google's search results are clearly filtered.  Go ahead and search "vaccines and autism".  You'll get a hundred entries claiming to debunk the link before you find one that argues that there is one.  Or search for "flat earth" (whether or not you believe in it) and the first 100 or so links are all ridiculing and debunking it.  Since Google controls what people can find on the internet, you can control what people know by filtering information.
    Yes I agree (I don't believe in FE however.) He should be charged with capital crimes against humanity and then hung. I haven't used Google's search engine in 6 or 7 years, DuckDuckGo usually provides better non-biased results typically. And then there are other search engines as well. Let's also not forget that Bill Gates father was the president of Planned Parenthood for something like 16 years.

    A simple search for Gates and Rockefeller will yield you everything you need to know about Gates.

    I am vehemently against vaccination in any form, there is absolutely zero proof it prevents disease. I wish more traditionalists would do actual research and stop peddling Big Pharma pseudo-science that has no basis in reality. For people who claim to be 'woke' and Catholic there are way too many pro-vax Catholics. I don't think they're necessarily sinning because they're ignorant of the science and literature from real scientists who condemn it, but they don't put in the effort to research and blindly trust big Pharma and the medical establishment. If nothing else wakes you up to vaccines, this lock-down should because it is clearly an agenda for money, power and control with the push for vaccines being heard all around MSM media. Traditionalists need to wake up. You cannot trust MSM, and you cannot trust the medical establishment. They're all run by Jєωs, or people who wish they were Jєωs. Alleopathic medicine is only good if you break your leg, everything can be cured by natural methods.

    I could write an entire book on this, and many have. Just wish people would read the proper material instead of auto-trusting an industry which has a huge, massive, history of lying and cover-up. Modern medical is not even scientific, it's all a big smoke screen. I've been reading tons of books on this stuff ever since this whole thing started and the book What Really Makes you Ill? is one I highly recommend to beginners.

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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #6 on: April 10, 2020, 11:53:31 AM »
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  • Let's also not forget that Bill Gates father was the president of Planned Parenthood for something like 16 years.

    I did not know this.  I just looked up some of the details.  That backs up my assertion that anyone who is this wildly successful and wealthy must have made a deal with the devil.

    This also explains Gates' "population control" agenda.

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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #7 on: April 10, 2020, 12:56:01 PM »
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  •  Google's search results are clearly filtered.  Go ahead and search "vaccines and autism".  You'll get a hundred entries claiming to debunk the link before you find one that argues that there is one.  Or search for "flat earth" (whether or not you believe in it) and the first 100 or so links are all ridiculing and debunking it.  Since Google controls what people can find on the internet, you can control what people know by filtering information.
    I found a good example of this phenomena a few days ago, and would like to share it here. I looked up "Bart Sibrel", who is well known for his Moon Landing debunking. Look at the first few results and the immediate Wikipedia article display on the right, all of which denounce him and his theories. His own website appears at the bottom of the first page of results, but most people won't look down that far and investigate his claims for themselves, as they will gladly let the mouthpieces of the system do the thinking for them. 

    Yet another example of the soft totalitarianism that exists today. 

    (By the way, I found his docuмentary on the Moon Landing on YouTube. Haven't watched it myself, is it any good? It's called "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon".)


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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #8 on: April 10, 2020, 03:17:45 PM »
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  • I agree, URGENT: Reopen the Economy Now!!!

    My neighbors recently laid off from their jobs are getting restless. They could not pay their rents for April.

    They are borrowing money from their friends and relatives and few of them have a job to go too.

    Lucky the churches are stepping forward, and it is not enough,

    Not even during the 1918-1919 epidemic was there a national and global shut down.  

    Unless we go back to work now, right now there are more ѕυιcιdєs than those that die of covin-19

    Read my post from yesterday:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/more-people-died-of-ѕυιcιdє-last-week-than-covid-19/

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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #9 on: April 10, 2020, 04:16:21 PM »
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  • I found a good example of this phenomena a few days ago, and would like to share it here. I looked up "Bart Sibrel", who is well known for his Moon Landing debunking. Look at the first few results and the immediate Wikipedia article display on the right, all of which denounce him and his theories. His own website appears at the bottom of the first page of results, but most people won't look down that far and investigate his claims for themselves, as they will gladly let the mouthpieces of the system do the thinking for them.

    Yet another example of the soft totalitarianism that exists today.

    (By the way, I found his docuмentary on the Moon Landing on YouTube. Haven't watched it myself, is it any good? It's called "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon".)

    Yes, I like that docuмentary.  It makes some very strong points.  Indeed, yet another example of Google filtering.  It wasn't that long ago that I could search on one of the subjects mentioned here and get decent results.  Now the self-proclaimed debunkers get top billing over the person himself or the theory itself.

    Another example, search "coronavirus Vitamin C" or "coronavirus zinc" and you'll get the debunkers for pages before you find a site promoting the benefits of these things.

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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #10 on: April 10, 2020, 04:21:50 PM »
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  • I agree, URGENT: Reopen the Economy Now!!!

    They will not listen to us, nor to reason ... their agenda is to loot the country and to exert control, and likely push for mandatory vaccines.  They're not about to let math and numbers get in the way.


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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #11 on: April 10, 2020, 08:40:19 PM »
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  • I went to the hospital in my town this week and once I did that I knew there was something fishy going on. At first I believed the MSM about the COVID19 virus, no doubt it still is a problem, but I thought that many people actually were dying from it. The entire medical center in my area is a ghost town. There were hardly any people there. Yet according to the MSM there was supposed to be some sort of bed shortage in the hospitals from all the COVID19 cases. Everything they say about it should be taken with a grain of salt. As stated previously this is clearly a setup for something sinister.

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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #12 on: April 10, 2020, 08:48:56 PM »
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  • Yes, I like that docuмentary.  It makes some very strong points.
     Thanks for your recommendation, Ladislaus. 

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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #13 on: April 10, 2020, 09:16:50 PM »
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    Unless we go back to work now, right now there are more ѕυιcιdєs than those that die of covin-19

    Read my post from yesterday:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/more-people-died-of-ѕυιcιdє-last-week-than-covid-19/
    Read that post. Was quite eye opening, as the ѕυιcιdє rate among young people (Millennials and Gen Z) is already quite bad as it is. Now with this crisis, so many poor godless souls now realize that they have nothing really to live for. The foundations for their peace, which is of the world, was built upon sand, and has been swept away by the tides of this panic. 
    Removed from many of the luxuries and distractions of the modern world, they are presented with an opportunity to really consider what life is really about, that being Our Lord Jesus Christ and the sanctification of our souls. LifeSite has an uplifting story that indicates at least some people are trying to get right with God: 
     https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/internet-searches-for-prayer-skyrocket-during-coronavirus-crisis
    Let us pray and hope that these lost souls may find the Holy Catholic Faith. 

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    Re: Reopen the economy
    « Reply #14 on: April 10, 2020, 10:17:37 PM »
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  • https://www.cathinfo.com/world-war-iii-chapter-2/the-prophecies-of-alois-irlmaier/msg153403/#msg153403



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    1. First there's an economic vitality like never before.
    2. A lapse of faith follows, like never before.
    3. Then a corruption of morals, like never before.
    4. A huge number of strangers flood the country.
    5. It comes a massive inflation. Paper money looses its value more and more.
    6. Soon follows the revolution.
    7. Then overnight the Russians raid the West.

    2 Corinthians 4:3-4 

    And if our gospel be also hid, it is hid to them that are lost, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.