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Ongoing worker shortage?
« on: August 15, 2022, 05:16:28 PM »
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  • I was reading about this today, and it really got me thinking. This several-months-long worker shortage is really unprecedented, AND unexplained. No one can adequately explain it.

    Unemployment benefits/super dole/Pandemic bucks: NOPE. Unemployment is back to normal, there hasn't been any stimulus/"credits" or any other kind of government cheese handed out for many months. For purposes of "extra cash", "extra gibs" or similar, the so-called Pandemic is 100% over.

    During the heydey of the "pandemic" back in 2020, people got the max $600/week unemployment, even if they just part-time walked dogs (self-employed) for a living! It was a real sweet gig for some. (I was working at the time, so I learned about this third-hand). A lot of people went NEET (Neither Employed, in Education, or Training).

    But that super unemployment that many people took advantage of is LONG gone. And the Biden Bucks (including "Part 2" of the stimulus, where the other half of the child tax "credit" was sent along with the 2022 tax return/refund) are even long gone.

    So how are people SURVIVING without any job or source of income? Not everyone has a paid-off house. In fact, very few do! How many people are debt-free? And virtually no one is exempt from utility charges every month (water, electricity, phone, Internet). And even when it comes to government largesse (economic stimulus, child tax credits, etc.), the real bucks only come in when you have more than a couple of children. The type of person to work a fast food job is young and unmarried, usually with 1 child or less.  So they were *never* at any point showered with government cheese, not even in the heyday of the pandemic.

    How are people making it? Because EVERYWHERE, and I mean literally everywhere in the retail/restaurant industry, is begging for employees. And apparently no one is interested.

    Also consider that MOST people, especially the type to work low-end jobs, don't save much for a rainy day. If they have a pile of cash, they BLOW IT like it's burning a hole in their pocket. If they don't covet a new TV, phone, or car, they'll go on vacation with it. Either way, it's gone by the next month -- much less 6 or 12 months later.
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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #1 on: August 15, 2022, 05:40:56 PM »
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  • Dead, dying or disabled by the jabs, most likely. Which is what I've been saying for months now.
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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #2 on: August 15, 2022, 06:40:25 PM »
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  • So I thought they were dead until I heard an explanation that all the boomers basically retired. I know my mom retired due to the pandemic. So that may be it?

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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #3 on: August 15, 2022, 06:41:38 PM »
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  • All the unemployed people are going to work for the IRS.;)

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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #4 on: August 15, 2022, 09:52:48 PM »
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  • All the unemployed people are going to work for the IRS.;)
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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #5 on: August 15, 2022, 09:55:24 PM »
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  • I know several people who moved back in with their parents, single siblings moved in together, and people retired early.  

    I think people realized what they can do without and are o.k. with it.  

    "You will own nothing and be happy."

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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #6 on: August 15, 2022, 10:57:22 PM »
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    Its really happening.
    Our local supermarket had to close its bakery because they dont have staff anymore. The butcher inside has only opened for half the day now because there is no staff. Every establishment I visit has a sign outside desperately searching for workers. A female friend was literaly crying the other day because the managment has canceled her vacation because there are no more staff in our local old peoples home. My cousin works for a large industrial production company and he said that they need more workers in prodcution and for the first time in decades there are no people applying for the jobs. Jobs that were always highly sought after. The offices have more than half their workers missing for months now and its utter chaos.
    I could go on and on.
    Something major is going on yet the (((media))) are silent about it.


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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #7 on: August 15, 2022, 11:11:22 PM »
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  •  So that may be it?

    Unfortunately, that is a massively insufficient explanation.
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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #8 on: August 15, 2022, 11:31:13 PM »
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  • So I thought they were dead until I heard an explanation that all the boomers basically retired. I know my mom retired due to the pandemic. So that may be it?

    Except the Boomers weren't occupying the bottom rung jobs in the United States: retail, baggers, cashiers, restaurant workers, etc.
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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #9 on: August 16, 2022, 12:03:01 AM »
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  • Yeah, I've heard a lot of explanations.  "Some retired early."  Maybe, but the most obvious shortages were in lower-wage jobs such as in retail (cashiers, customer service, etc.).  And the vast majority of those jobs tend to be held by younger people ... and only a tiny proportion by people nearing retirement age.

    I do see a bit of a recovery where there's a bit less of a shortage of workers.  Perhaps part of it was that the younger people collected more in stimulus (Trump and Biden Bucks) than they would have working their $10 / hour jobs.  At $10 per hour, you'd make $400 in a full week.  But they were pulling in $600 for doing nothing.  And, actually, it was more than that, since that was on TOP of your normal state unemployment.  Oh, BTW, you did not have to be laid off on account of COVID.  You could actually QUIT your job and just claim that you quit due to your "fear" of catching COVID.  I knew and knew of many who pulled that stunt.  So some these individuals were collecting $800 per week, so nearly double their pay.  And I think they let this nonsense go on for at least 18 months if not 2 years.  So that's the equivalent of 4 years of working.  Then you top it all off, that much of this younger demographic do still live with their parents. So if you could make about 4 years of income in 2 years of doing nothing, then you could probably stretch it out for another 2 years of doing nothing and still break even.  Many of them got so used to not working that they just couldn't motivate themselves to go back to work.  So, while I'm seeing a bit less of a shortage, what I am seeing is that there is still SOME shortage, and so a lot of these folks are hopping form one job to the next.  If they don't like it, they just quit and try something else.  I was told this by a couple store managers, that they hire people alright, but then they quit after a couple weeks.  So perhaps Klaus was conditioning them to own nothing, do nothing, and be happy.

    But, yes, I do also believe there was a population decline due to jab deaths.  But I think that when there's population decline, there would also be a decline in the need to provide goods and services, but there would definitely be a bit of a lag before that adjusted down to the declining demand.  I think it would depend on the demographics, as to whether those who died were mostly people who provided services or people who consumed them.

    So I think it's probably pretty complicated.

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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #10 on: August 16, 2022, 12:09:57 AM »
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  • Except the Boomers weren't occupying the bottom rung jobs in the United States: retail, baggers, cashiers, restaurant workers, etc.

    Yep.  Didn't see this until after I had posted my comment above.  I basically said the same thing.


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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #11 on: August 16, 2022, 12:23:43 AM »
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  • May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #12 on: August 16, 2022, 04:44:50 AM »
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  • I used to have a job in a cyclical industry where about every 4 - 5 years the local industry got layoffs lasting about 4 - 6 months before work came back for another 4 - 5 years. Many of us stretched that into a year and sometimes more, depending if you could afford it or not. But back then, you made extra cash under the table so in many cases you could actually afford staying laid off while collecting unemployment and working under the table.

    I think the main reason for the worker shortage is that all the free money is not used up just yet and that there are a whole lot of people just content with doing nothing - the strange part to me is that this is happening everywhere and is on going, which seems to suggest that there is a complete lack of responsibility and just plain laziness among workers no one has ever seen before. 

    Heck, I read where Walgreens is so desperate that they're offering $75k signing bonuses for pharmacists, so this phenomenon is not limited to only restaurants and retail.
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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #13 on: August 16, 2022, 05:52:01 AM »
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  • From a man in Germany.
    It’s here too in Oz.

    Today is our anniversary and we decided to go to a popular restaurant on a nearby lake. Middle of the booming tourist season with folk flocking north for the winter. Would you believe, closed for shortage of staff. 

    Hospital staff are overworked to the point of exhaustion and want out. A friend just threw in her job as a geriatric nurse to take up work in the kitchen, totally fed up. Of course all staff had the clot shot and it shows.
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    Re: Ongoing worker shortage?
    « Reply #14 on: August 16, 2022, 07:17:39 AM »
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  • Are we seeing an increase in jobs that are remote?  I wonder if many people who worked these other jobs found a job where they can work from home.  After COVID, it may be that a lot of people just don't want to commute to work/work with the public anymore.
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