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Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 14, 2010, 12:59:47 PM
Oil Volcano Pressure Too
Strong for Containment
Dr. James P. Wickstrom
6-9-10

 
It has been estimated by experts that the pressure which blows the oil into the Gulf waters is estimated to be between 20,000 and 70,000 PSI (pounds per square inch). Impossible to control.  

 
What US Scientists Are Forbidden To Tell The Public About The Gulf

 
 What you are about to read, is what the scientists in the United States are not allowed to tell you in great fear of the Obama administration.

 
  They are under the threat of severe repercussions to the max.. Scientists confirming these findings cannot be named due to the above, but what they believe, they want to be known by all.

 
Take a U. S. map, lay it flat and measure inland just the minimum 50 miles of total destruction all around the Gulf of Mexico as to what you will read below.

 
The carnage to the United States is so staggering, it will take your breathe away.

 
Should what the scientists who are trying to warn everyone about be even close to being true... all of Florida will be completely destroyed as will everyone and everything on it.

 
You decide!! Everyone has the right to read what I have just written in this article, as well as to what is written below by the scientists who the Obama administration and BP are trying to shut up.

 
Please share with as many as you can.

 
 --Dr. James P. Wickstrom

 
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/05/05/learning/oilslickLN/oilslickLN-blogSpan.jpg

 
   SUMMARY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING

 
The estimated super high pressure release of oil from under the earth's crust is between 80,000 to 100,000 barrels per day.

 
  The flow of oil and toxic gases is bringing up with it... rocks and sand which causes the flow to create a sandblasting effect on the remaining well head device currently somewhat restricting the flow, as well as the drilled hole itself.

 
  As the well head becomes worn it enlarges the passageway allowing an ever-increasing flow. Even if some device could be placed onto the existing wellhead, it would not be able to shut off the flow, because what remains of the existing wellhead would not be able to contain the pressure.

 
  The well head piping is originally about 2 inches thick. It is now likely to be less than 1 inch thick, and thinning by each passing moment. The oil has now reached the Gulf Stream and is entering the Oceanic current which is at least four times stronger than the current in the Gulf, which will carry it throughout the world within 18 months.

 
   The oil along with the gasses, including benzene and many other toxins, is deleting the oxygen in the water. This is killing all life in the ocean. Along with the oil along the shores, there will be many dead fish, etc. that will have to be gathered and disposed of.

 
  SUMMARY OF EXPECTATIONS

 
 At some point the drilled hole in the earth will enlarge itself beneath the wellhead to weaken the area the wellhead rests upon. The intense pressure will then push the wellhead off the hole allowing a direct unrestricted flow of oil, etc.

 
  The hole will continue to increase in size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf. After several billion barrels of oil have been released, the pressure within the massive cavity five miles beneath the ocean floor will begin to normalize.

 
  This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1 mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was. The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more.

 
  The water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to fully calculate the rise of the floor.

 
   The tsunami wave this will create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole.

 
    Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these areas for an unknown number of years.

 
(End of scientists information release.) From Tom Buyea FL News Service

 

 
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Belloc on June 14, 2010, 01:01:22 PM
gee and likely BP will get away with it.....capitalism is one of those things we are not allowed to attack and is beloved at FE....
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: MyrnaM on June 14, 2010, 01:29:50 PM
gulp!  Maybe this is why America is not mentioned in Catholic prophesy, we will all be underwater.

Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Belloc on June 14, 2010, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: MyrnaM
gulp!  Maybe this is why America is not mentioned in Catholic prophesy, we will all be underwater.



true, most mentioned is Russia, China, Middle east and Europe.....
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Patman on June 14, 2010, 05:38:19 PM
I think this BP "disaster" can easily be fixed and they (someone at the top at least directing it so) are allowing it to continue - because disasters distract from other news and concerns, and also spawn tolerance for other drastic changes that would not otherwise be allowed to be made. They can get lots of mileage for change out of this.

Think about it. They built the hole in the first place. This technology is old hat, and there are such riggings all over the world. I currently don't accept it as a dilemma.

Does anyone know what their excuse is for why their shut-off valve doesn't work? I mean, the rig on the surface blew up, and then sank far from the well hole. What is the problem with the shut-off at the well?

Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Vandaler on June 14, 2010, 06:14:51 PM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
What you are about to read, is what the scientists in the United States are not allowed to tell you in great fear of the Obama administration.

They are under the threat of severe repercussions to the max.. Scientists confirming these findings cannot be named due to the above, but what they believe, they want to be known by all.


Or said differently, "what follows is utter bullshit and I am not taking responsibility for it."

Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Vandaler on June 14, 2010, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: Patman
I think this BP "disaster" can easily be fixed and they (someone at the top at least directing it so) are allowing it to continue - because disasters distract from other news and concerns, and also spawn tolerance for other drastic changes that would not otherwise be allowed to be made. They can get lots of mileage for change out of this.


What is going on that is so amazing that it requires this diversion ?
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: MyrnaM on June 14, 2010, 06:20:45 PM
Maybe the powers to be just want to destroy America.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Patman on June 14, 2010, 06:31:44 PM
Quote from: Vandaler
What is going on that is so amazing that it requires this diversion ?

I find it difficult to know where to even start!

Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 15, 2010, 12:14:16 AM
BP Death Clouds Already Onshore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGxGVGiD3yk
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Belloc on June 15, 2010, 07:21:22 AM
Quote from: MyrnaM
Maybe the powers to be just want to destroy America.


exactly, though whether spill is intentional or mishap, jury still out for me...

none the less, seems to work well for NWO.....hey, I know, lets invade Iran for their oil, hmm......seems that scenario would work well too for our Elites..
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: parentsfortruth on June 15, 2010, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: Patman
Quote from: Vandaler
What is going on that is so amazing that it requires this diversion ?

I find it difficult to know where to even start!



Vandaler is just an agitator and a "debunk-er." Best just to ignore him.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Belloc on June 15, 2010, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Vandaler
Quote from: Patman
I think this BP "disaster" can easily be fixed and they (someone at the top at least directing it so) are allowing it to continue - because disasters distract from other news and concerns, and also spawn tolerance for other drastic changes that would not otherwise be allowed to be made. They can get lots of mileage for change out of this.


What is going on that is so amazing that it requires this diversion ?


well, it is a lot of oil hitting the USA coast...what if hte spill was that big off Nova Scotia ?
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 15, 2010, 02:10:00 PM
15 minute update on the Oil Disaster provided by James Fox.

http://www.veritasshow.com/veritasplayer.html
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Vandaler on June 15, 2010, 04:50:16 PM
Quote from: Belloc
Quote from: Vandaler
Quote from: Patman
I think this BP "disaster" can easily be fixed and they (someone at the top at least directing it so) are allowing it to continue - because disasters distract from other news and concerns, and also spawn tolerance for other drastic changes that would not otherwise be allowed to be made. They can get lots of mileage for change out of this.


What is going on that is so amazing that it requires this diversion ?


well, it is a lot of oil hitting the USA coast...what if the spill was that big off Nova Scotia ?


You miss my point Belloc and I know it's a lot of oil... What is claimed above and that I am challenging is that it's intentional to cause a diversion.  It's juvenile.

To answer your question, if that spill was off the coast of Nova Scotia; I, and all my fellow Canadians would still be able to monitor the news.  It's no different for you guys.

But more to the point, there is nothing going right now that justifies this spill.  Nothing, and for that matter, there is absolutely no support or justification to say that "the BP disaster can easily be fixed" but asking hard questions and for others to be held accountable by explaining the basis of what they write is considered, by some at least to be an agitator.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 15, 2010, 05:11:08 PM

    Gulf Coast Explosive Tsunami




    June 15, 2010
    Hawk

    LAST NIGHT ON COAST TO COAST AM , RICHARD C. HOAGLAND, CITING INSIDER SOURCES IN BP AND IN U.S. GOVERNMENT, SAID THAT A GAS BUBBLE APPROXIMATELY 15-20 MILES ACROSS 10+ FEET HIGH NEAR THE WELL HEAD OF THE BP GULF WELL , HAD FORMED AND THAT IT MAY CAUSE A MASSIVE EXPLOSION WITHIN WEEKS OR MONTHS.

    HE SAID THAT THE PRESSURE AT THE WELL WAS 100,000 PSI AND THAT WHEN THE GAS EXPLODES , IT WOULD BE LIKE A MT. ST. HELENS GOING OFF UNDERWATER THAT WOULD CREATE A HUGE TSUNAMI THAT WOULD TRAVEL AT 400-600 MPH , SINK ALL VESSELS WITHIN MILES, DRIVE THE OIL , HAZARDOUS DISPERSANTS, AND GASSES INLAND WITHIN MINUTES.

    HE DESCRIBED FLORIDA MAY IN FACT GET THE BRUNT OF IT WHEN IT BLOWS THOUGH OTHER STATES WOULD BE AFFECTED AS WELL AND THAT THE PEOPLE ALONG THE GULF HAD BETTER BE TOLD BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT SOON AS IT IS LIKELY THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL NEED TO EVACUATE THEM TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE MASSIVE EXPLOSION AND TSUNAMI AS WELL AS THE HEALTH HAZZARDS OF THE OIL, DISPERSANTS, AND GASSES. HE WAS HIGHLY CRITICAL OF OBAMA DOWN THERE EATING SEAFOOD AND PROMISING A CLEAN-UP , WHILE IT SHOULD BE TREATED AS A WAR SITUATION. HE CONCURS THAT WITH THE ABIOTIC POSSIBILITIES THAT IF THIS BLOWS THAT OIL COULD FLOW FOREVER .

    THIS IS ANOTHER SLANT ON WHY AN EVACUATION OF 40 MILLION PEOPLE ALONG THE GULF IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN SOON.

    AS I TOLD YOU YESTERDAY THE GULF MILITARY COMMAND IS GIVING MULTIPLE MESSAGES OF EXTREMLY LONG LENGTH ON THE INTEROPERABILITY TRUNKING COMM SYSTEM.....PERHAPS SELECTIVELY TO CONTAIN THE WHOLE TRUTH WITHIN COMPARTMENTS.  I ALSO GOT FROM A SOURCE THAT THE COAST GUARD IS NOW IN THE PROCESS OF CALLING UP ANY FORMER COAST GUARD OFFICERS, AND SEAMEN ...OFFERING ENTICEMENTS TO COME BACK INTO SERVICE QUICKLY. ALSO ACTUAL MEASUREMENTS AT VENICE , LA. AND AT NEW IBERIA, LA. ARE SHOWING HEALTH ENDANGERING LEVELS OF TOXIC HYDROGEN SULFIDES AND BENZENE GASSES.

    THIS EVAC WILL HAVE TO COME SOON OR MILLIONS WILL MOST LIKELY DIE. THEN AGAIN, WHEN THE MARTIAL LAW NECESSARY FOR THIS EVAC BEGINS , IT IS LIKELY TO BEGIN THE cινιℓ ωαr II IN AMERICA AND WILL COLLAPSE THE BANKING SYSTEM AND LIKELY MUCH OF THE FEDERAL , STATE, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTAL STRUCTURES. ORDO AB CHAO..........WELL, CHAOS IS COMING PERHAPS AT 400-600 MILES PER HOUR. THE LUCIFERIANS WILL BE GETTING THEIR BLOOD SACRIFICE. THERE IS POWER IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS.

Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Emerentiana on June 15, 2010, 05:12:49 PM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
Oil Volcano Pressure Too
Strong for Containment
Dr. James P. Wickstrom
6-9-10

 
It has been estimated by experts that the pressure which blows the oil into the Gulf waters is estimated to be between 20,000 and 70,000 PSI (pounds per square inch). Impossible to control.  

 
What US Scientists Are Forbidden To Tell The Public About The Gulf

 
 What you are about to read, is what the scientists in the United States are not allowed to tell you in great fear of the Obama administration.

 
  They are under the threat of severe repercussions to the max.. Scientists confirming these findings cannot be named due to the above, but what they believe, they want to be known by all.

 
Take a U. S. map, lay it flat and measure inland just the minimum 50 miles of total destruction all around the Gulf of Mexico as to what you will read below.

 
The carnage to the United States is so staggering, it will take your breathe away.

 
Should what the scientists who are trying to warn everyone about be even close to being true... all of Florida will be completely destroyed as will everyone and everything on it.

 
You decide!! Everyone has the right to read what I have just written in this article, as well as to what is written below by the scientists who the Obama administration and BP are trying to shut up.

 
Please share with as many as you can.

 
 --Dr. James P. Wickstrom

 
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/05/05/learning/oilslickLN/oilslickLN-blogSpan.jpg

 
   SUMMARY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING

 
The estimated super high pressure release of oil from under the earth's crust is between 80,000 to 100,000 barrels per day.

 
  The flow of oil and toxic gases is bringing up with it... rocks and sand which causes the flow to create a sandblasting effect on the remaining well head device currently somewhat restricting the flow, as well as the drilled hole itself.

 
  As the well head becomes worn it enlarges the passageway allowing an ever-increasing flow. Even if some device could be placed onto the existing wellhead, it would not be able to shut off the flow, because what remains of the existing wellhead would not be able to contain the pressure.

 
  The well head piping is originally about 2 inches thick. It is now likely to be less than 1 inch thick, and thinning by each passing moment. The oil has now reached the Gulf Stream and is entering the Oceanic current which is at least four times stronger than the current in the Gulf, which will carry it throughout the world within 18 months.

 
   The oil along with the gasses, including benzene and many other toxins, is deleting the oxygen in the water. This is killing all life in the ocean. Along with the oil along the shores, there will be many dead fish, etc. that will have to be gathered and disposed of.

 
  SUMMARY OF EXPECTATIONS

 
 At some point the drilled hole in the earth will enlarge itself beneath the wellhead to weaken the area the wellhead rests upon. The intense pressure will then push the wellhead off the hole allowing a direct unrestricted flow of oil, etc.

 
  The hole will continue to increase in size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf. After several billion barrels of oil have been released, the pressure within the massive cavity five miles beneath the ocean floor will begin to normalize.

 
  This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1 mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was. The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more.

 
  The water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to fully calculate the rise of the floor.

 
   The tsunami wave this will create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole.

 
    Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these areas for an unknown number of years.

 
(End of scientists information release.) From Tom Buyea FL News Service

 

 


Thanks so much for this concise article on the spill.  The gasses are also at very high levels.

I cant remember if this site is posted, before but , here it is again!
Lindsey williams and other experts  are interviewed on the Alex Jones show.  You can hear the clips.  



http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/06/alert-alex-jones-this-blow-out-is.html
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 15, 2010, 05:57:23 PM
ROV Films Oil Leaks from Rock Cracks on the Seafloor.

Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2RxIQP0IBU
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 15, 2010, 09:48:18 PM
BP Gulf Oil is already in Gulf Stream and may hit North
Carolina Beaches any Day.

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/06/15/bp-gulf-oil-spill-gulf-stream-hit-north-carolina-beaches-day/
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 15, 2010, 10:38:43 PM
Day 50
Grand Isle,LA from the air.

Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRc-TPgzdGY
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: MyrnaM on June 15, 2010, 11:15:28 PM
Watching your youtube I found this interesting one

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=ebakfotEsXQ&feature=related
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Matthew on June 15, 2010, 11:56:20 PM
I won't comment as to the content of that video, but I must say

WHY NOT JUST POST AN ARTICLE?

to people who create "videos" like that one.

Come on, Windows Movie Maker typewriter effect (which is very hard to read)? Talk about low-end.

A bunch of textual content is best conveyed by... text.

Matthew


Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 16, 2010, 12:02:02 AM
It is a great age that we live in that we can prove a point by
using a film made by someone else. I bet the number of
users coming to this site, and see the small collection of
youtubes that I added, can see a better picture than they can
get from the news media.  If it was not for the internet, this
disaster could been successfully covered up.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 16, 2010, 12:44:54 AM
From a reliable source



My friend just called from St. Pete Beach and said at pass a grille, swimmers came across a strange algea, and when they checked closer, they had oil all over them. When they looked out....they could see the "orange". There was an alert in the St. Pete TImes yesterday, for Manatee and Sarasota to brace themselves, for the arrival of a plume of oil. I guess it hit a little north of their predictions, at the bottom of St. Pete. It was hard to wash off, they actually were given "comet" cleanser to scrub it off. The rest of the swimmers came out of the water. This is bad news. Where is the help?

Obama will speak to the nation tomorrow night. I am only interested in one thing right now. The dispersants. Our country ordered them to STOP within 24 hrs, because they know the effects. We have sixteen OTHER dispersants that are well known and not as toxic. BP said no? Who are they? Turns out, they are all in bed together with the dispersant company being used. It's all about money to them. Our government EPA says they have sprayed double the allowed limit, and everyone knows they are causing harm. I want to know why they are not ordered to use a less toxic spray, and why we care so much about their boardroom deals with other companies? This has nothing to do with us. I want to know why the Dutch were turned away, told by BP they did not need help in the first few days? If this is how it's going to be, then we need to bring a criminal case against them. Obama was the biggest recipient of BP cash for his campaign. Watching him dance around BP and this mess is making me sick.

































































Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 16, 2010, 05:14:18 PM
16 Burning Questions about the Gulf Oil Gusher that deserves
answers to:

The Gulf of Mexico oil spill is a national nightmare that seems to have no ending.  Every day new details come out that are even more shocking than what we learned the day before.  The truth is that life will never be the same in the Gulf of Mexico or for those who live along the Gulf coast.  Now Barack Obama has made a big Oval Office speech and has tried to convince all of us that he is in charge of the crisis.  Well, perhaps if he had tried to take decisive action a month ago the American people may have rallied around him.  But right now the BP/government response to this disaster remains completely and totally chaotic.  Nobody seems to be able to stop the leak, and BP has made the environmental nightmare far worse by dumping over a million gallons of highly toxic dispersants into the Gulf.  U.S. government officials are running around holding press conferences and waiting for BP to do something.  Meanwhile oil is pouring ashore and toxic gases are being detected at very alarming levels.  The biggest environmental disaster in U.S. history is also quickly becoming one of the biggest economic disasters and potentially one of the biggest public health disasters.

The truth is that the American people deserve some answers about what in the world is going on down there in the Gulf.  BP does not own the Gulf of Mexico and they have no right to keep the American people from seeing what is happening.  There are some very serious health and environmental questions that have been raised in the media recently, but both BP and the U.S. government are not giving us any answers.

But we need some answers.  People are getting sick.  Crops are dying.  Wildlife is being devastated.  Birds are flocking north by the thousands.

But BP and the U.S. government continue to treat us as though we are on a “need to know” basis and that what we “need to know” is not much.

Actually, much of what they have decided to tell us throughout this crisis has turned out to be lies anyway.

The truth is that it is about darn time that someone started telling it to us straight.

The following are 16 questions about the Gulf of Mexico oil spill that we really need some answers to….

#1) Barack Obama has authorized the deployment of more than 17,000 National Guard members along the Gulf coast to be used “as needed” by state governors.  So what are all of these National Guard troops going to be doing exactly?  Are the troops going to be used to stop the oil or to control the public?

#2) Barack Obama has also announced the creation of a “Gulf recovery czar” who will be in charge of overseeing the restoration of the Gulf of Mexico region following the oil spill.  So is appointing a “czar” Obama’s idea of taking charge of a situation?
#3) Because it is so incredibly toxic, the UK’s Marine Management Organization has completely banned Corexit 9500, so if there was a major oil spill in the UK’s North Sea, BP would not be able to use it.  So why is BP being allowed to use Corexit 9500 in the Gulf of Mexico?

#4) It is being reported that 2.61 parts per million of Corexit 9500 (mixed with oil at a ratio of 1:1o) is lethal to 50% of fish exposed to it within 96 hours.  That means that 1 gallon of Corexit 9500/oil mixture is capable of rendering 383,141 gallons of water highly toxic to fish.  So why was BP allowed to dump 1,021,000 gallons of Corexit 9500 and Corexit 9527 into the Gulf of Mexico, and why aren’t they being stopped from dumping another 805,000 gallons of these dispersants that they have on order into the Gulf?

#5) If these dispersants are so incredibly toxic to fish, what are they going to do to crops?  What are they going to do to people?

#6) If the smell of the oil on some Gulf beaches is already so strong that it burns your nostrils, then what in the world is this oil doing to to wildlife that encounter it?

#7) Is it a bad sign that birds from the Gulf region are flocking north by the thousands?

#8) Why is BP being allowed to use private security contractors to keep the American people away from the oil cleanup sites?

#9) Why is BP openly attempting to manipulate the search results on sites like Google and Yahoo?

#10) Why has the FAA shut down the airspace above the Gulf of Mexico oil spill?  What don’t they want the American people to see?

#11) Senator Bill Nelson of Florida says that there are reports that there are additional ruptures in the sea floor from which oil is leaking.  If there are quite a few of these additional ruptures, then how in the world does BP expect to completely stop this oil leak?

#12) Why are scientists finding concentrations of methane at up to 10,000 times normal background levels in Gulf waters?

#13) At some testing stations in the Gulf of Mexico, levels of benzene have been detected at over 3000 parts per billion, and levels of hydrogen sulfide have been detected as high as 1192 parts per billion.  Considering that these levels would be highly toxic to humans, why hasn’t the general public been warned?

#14) Why are so many Gulf oil spill disaster workers showing up at local hospitals complaining of a “mysterious illness”?

#15) If “70% or 80%” of the protective booms are doing absolutely nothing at all to stop the oil, then what is going to stop the millions of gallons of oil in the Gulf from eventually reaching shore?

#16) It is being reported that the deepsea oil plumes are creating huge “dead zones” where all creatures are dying as they are deprived of oxygen.  If this oil spill continues to grow could the vast majority of the Gulf of Mexico become one gigantic “dead zone”?

***UPDATE***

A reader named Stacy has posted a very alarming comment regarding what is happening in her area down in Florida that we wanted to share with everyone….

We live in the navarre, florida area and in the past week almost every family we know has had vomiting and diarreha. This could just be anecdotal – maybe we just have a stomach bug circulating, but it is strange. We had a huge storm the week before it happened that blew in from the gulf so who knows.

Also, the city of destin, florida has taken it upon themselves to close the destin pass with their own purchased boom and barges. This is an elite destination and they are not waiting around for bp and their hired prison workers to clean the beaches. Apparently, the coast guard was at the meeting and told the locals that they will face criminal prosecution, but they don’t care. They are protecting their million dollar properties.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 17, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Tonight on Rense Radio www.rense.com
Dr. Patricia Doyle, PhD will be explaining the
Gases from the Oil Volcano, not a spill.
Program starts at 9pm CDT.
Free listening.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on June 17, 2010, 06:33:03 PM
there is a bunch of spill info here

http://www.nwofighters.org
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Matthew on June 18, 2010, 11:03:12 AM
Damaged Well Billowing Methane Into Gulf of Mexico
June 18th, 2010

Maybe this one deserves a re-read: Detonating Nuclear Bomb at BP Oil Spill Site… Might Produce a Bad Result.

Via: AP:

It is an overlooked danger in oil spill crisis: The crude gushing from the well contains vast amounts of natural gas that could pose a serious threat to the Gulf of Mexico’s fragile ecosystem.

The oil emanating from the seafloor contains about 40 percent methane, compared with about 5 percent found in typical oil deposits, said John Kessler, a Texas A&M University oceanographer who is studying the impact of methane from the spill.

That means huge quantities of methane have entered the Gulf, scientists say, potentially suffocating marine life and creating “dead zones” where oxygen is so depleted that nothing lives.

“This is the most vigorous methane eruption in modern human history,” Kessler said.

Methane is a colorless, odorless and flammable substance that is a major component in the natural gas used to heat people’s homes. Petroleum engineers typically burn off excess gas attached to crude before the oil is shipped off to the refinery. That’s exactly what BP has done as it has captured more than 7.5 million gallons of crude from the breached well.

A BP spokesman said the company was burning about 30 million cubic feet of natural gas daily from the source of the leak, adding up to about 450 million cubic feet since the containment effort started 15 days ago. That’s enough gas to heat about 450,000 homes for four days.

But that figure does not account for gas that eluded containment efforts and wound up in the water, leaving behind huge amounts of methane.

BP PLC said a containment cap sitting over the leaking well funneled about 619,500 gallons of oil to a drillship waiting on the ocean surface on Wednesday. Meanwhile, a specialized flare siphoning oil and gas from a stack of pipes on the seafloor burned roughly 161,700 gallons.

Thursday was focused on Capitol Hill, where lawmakers chastised BP CEO Tony Hayward.

Testifying as oil still surged into the Gulf at between 1.47 million and 2.52 million gallons a day, coating more coastal land and marshes, Hayward declared “I am so devastated with this accident,” “deeply sorry” and “so distraught.”

But he also said he was out of the loop on decisions at the well and disclaimed knowledge of any of the myriad problems on and under the Deepwater Horizon rig before the deadly explosion. BP was leasing the rig the Deepwater Horizon that exploded April 20, killing 11 workers and triggering the environmental disaster.

“BP blew it,” said Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., chairman of the House investigations panel that held the hearing. “You cut corners to save money and time.”

As for the methane, scientists are still trying to measure how much has escaped into the water and how it may damage the Gulf and it creatures.

The dangerous gas has played an important role throughout the disaster and response. A bubble of methane is believed to have burst up from the seafloor and ignited the rig explosion. Methane crystals also clogged a four-story containment box that engineers earlier tried to place on top of the breached well.

Now it is being looked at as an environmental concern.

The small microbes that live in the sea have been feeding on the oil and natural gas in the water and are consuming larger quantities of oxygen, which they need to digest food. As they draw more oxygen from the water, it creates two problems. When oxygen levels drop low enough, the breakdown of oil grinds to a halt; and as it is depleted in the water, most life can’t be sustained.

The National Science Foundation funded research on methane in the Gulf amid concerns about the depths of the oil plume and questions what role natural gas was playing in keeping the oil below the surface, said David Garrison, a program director in the federal agency who specializes in biological oceanography.

“This has the potential to harm the ecosystem in ways that we don’t know,” Garrison said. “It’s a complex problem.”

In early June, a research team led by Samantha Joye of the Institute of Undersea Research and Technology at the University of Georgia investigated a 15-mile-long plume drifting southwest from the leak site. They said they found methane concentrations up to 10,000 times higher than normal, and oxygen levels depleted by 40 percent or more.

The scientists found that some parts of the plume had oxygen concentrations just shy of the level that tips ocean waters into the category of “dead zone” — a region uninhabitable to fish, crabs, shrimp and other marine creatures.

Kessler has encountered similar findings. Since he began his on-site research on Saturday, he said he has already found oxygen depletions of between 2 percent and 30 percent in waters 1,000 feet deep.

Shallow waters are normally more susceptible to oxygen depletion. Because it is being found in such deep waters, both Kessler and Joye do not know what is causing the depletion and what the impact could be in the long- or short-term.

In an e-mail, Joye called her findings “the most bizarre looking oxygen profiles I have ever seen anywhere.”

Representatives of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration acknowledged that so much methane in the water could draw down oxygen levels and slow the breakdown of oil in the Gulf, but cautioned that research was still under way to understand the ramifications.

“We haven’t seen any long-term changes or trends at this point,” said Robert Haddad, chief of the agency’s assessment and restoration division.

Haddad said early efforts to monitor the spill had focused largely on the more toxic components of oil. However, as new data comes in, he said NOAA and other federal agencies will get a more accurate read on methane concentrations and the effects.

“The question is what’s going on in the deeper, colder parts of the ocean,” he said. “Are the (methane) concentrations going to overcome the amount of available oxygen? We want to make sure we’re not overloading the system.”

BP spokesman Mark Proegler disputed Joye’s suggestion that the Gulf’s deep waters contain large amounts of methane, noting that water samples taken by BP and federal agencies have shown minimal underwater oil outside the spill’s vicinity.

“The gas that escapes, what we don’t flare, goes up to the surface and is gone,” he said.

Steven DiMarco, an oceanographer at Texas A&M University who has studied a long-known “dead zone” in the Gulf, said one example of marine life that could be affected by low oxygen levels in deeper waters would be giant squid — the food of choice for the endangered sperm whale population. Squid live primarily in deep water, and would be disrupted by lower oxygen levels, DiMarco said.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 18, 2010, 02:35:29 PM
New Video shows evolution of Deepwater Horizon Oil Gusher,
April 20 through June 13, 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqSoLW2_CPg
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 18, 2010, 10:06:17 PM
URGENT-Radioactive Oil From BP Blowout:

http://www.rense.com/general91/d2se.htm
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: MyrnaM on June 18, 2010, 10:25:35 PM
Listen to this one please!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h4JAUCnKYo
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 19, 2010, 12:09:39 AM
How the BP Disaster could kill millions:

http://www.rense.com/general91/mill.htm
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Matthew on June 19, 2010, 11:30:12 AM
How The BP Disaster Could Kill Millions
By Terrence Aym
6-18-10
 

Disturbing evidence is mounting that something frightening is happening deep under the waters of the Gulf of Mexico-something far worse than theBP oil gusher.
 
Warnings were raised as long as a year before the Deepwater Horizondisaster that the area of seabed chosen by the BP geologists might be unstable, or worse, inherently dangerous.
 
What makes the location that Transocean chose potentially far riskier than other potential oil deposits located at other regions of the Gulf? It can be summed up with two words: methane gas.
 
The same methane that makes coal mining operations hazardous and leads to horrendous mining accidents deep under the earth also can present a high level of danger to certain oil exploration ventures.
 
Location of Deepwater Horizon oil rig was criticized
 
More than 12 months ago some geologists rang the warning bell that the Deepwater Horizon exploratory rig might have been erected directly over a huge underground reservoir of methane.
 
Docuмents from several years ago indicate that the subterranean geologic formation may contain the presence of a huge methane deposit.
 
None other than the engineer who helped lead the team to snuff the Gulf oilfires set by Saddam Hussein to slow the advance of American troops has stated that a huge underground lake of methane gas-compressed by a pressure of 100,000 pounds per square inch (psi)-could be released by BP's drilling effort to obtain the oil deposit.
 
Current engineering technology cannot contain gas that is pressurized to 100,000 psi.
 
By some geologists' estimates the methane could be a massive 15 to 20 mile toxic and explosive bubble trapped for eons under the Gulf sea floor. In their opinion, the explosive destruction of the Deepwater Horizon wellhead was an accident just waiting to happen.
 
Yet the disaster that followed the loss of the rig pales by comparison to the apocalyptic disaster that may come.
 
A cascading catastrophe
 
According to worried geologists, the first signs that the methane may burst its way through the bottom of the ocean would be fissures or cracks appearing on the ocean floor near the damaged well head.
 
Evidence of fissures opening up on the seabed have been captured by the robotic submersibles working to repair and contain the ruptured well. Smaller, independent plumes have also appeared outside the nearby radius of the bore hole itself.
 
According to some geological experts, BP's operations set into motion a series of events that may be irreversible. Step-by-step the drilling
 
team committed one error after another.
 
Congressmen Henry Waxman, D-CA, and Bart Stupak, D-MI, in a letter sent to BP CEO Tony Hayward, identified 5 missteps made by BP during the period culminating with the explosion.
 
Waxman, chair of the Congressional energy panel and Stupak, the head of the subcommittee on oversight and investigations, said, "The common feature of these five decisions is that they posed a trade-off between cost and well safety."
 
The two Representatives also stated in the 14-page letter to Hayward that "Time after time, it appears that BP made decisions that increased the risk of a blowout to save the company time or expense."
 
 
Called by some insiders investigating the ongoing disaster a "perfect storm of catastrophe," the wellhead blew on the sea floor catapulting a stream of mud, oil and gas upwards at the speed of sound.
 
In describing the events-that transpired in a matter of seconds-they note that immediately following the rupture the borehole pipe's casing blew away exposing a straight line 8 miles deep for the pressurized gas to escape. The result was cavitation, an irregular pressure variance sometimes experience by deep diving vessels such as nuclear submarines. This cavitation created a supersonic bubble of explosive methane gas that resulted in a supersonic explosion killing 11 men and completely annihilating the drilling platform.
 
Death from the depths
 
With the emerging evidence of fissures, the quiet fear now is the methane bubble rupturing the seabed and exploding into the Gulf waters. If the bubble escapes, every ship, drilling rig and structure within the region of the bubble will instantaneously sink. All the workers, engineers, Coast Guard personnel and marine biologists measuring the oil plumes' advance will instantly perish.
 
As horrible as that is, what would follow is an event so potentially horrific that it equals in its fury the Indonesian tsunami that killed more than 600,000, or the destruction of Pompeii by Mt. Vesuvius.
 
The ultimate Gulf disaster, however, would make even those historical horrors pale by comparison. If the huge methane bubble breaches the seabed, it will erupt with an explosive fury similar to that experienced during the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens in the Pacific Northwest. A gas gusher will surge upwards through miles of ancient sedimentary rock-layer after layer-past the oil reservoir. It will explode upwards propelled by 50 tons psi, burst through the cracks and fissures of the compromised sea floor, and rupture miles of ocean bottom with one titanic explosion.
 
 
The burgeoning methane gas cloud will surface, killing everything it touches, and set off a supersonic tsunami with the wave traveling somewhere between 400 to 600 miles per hour.
 
While the entire Gulf coastline is vulnerable, the state most exposed to the fury of a supersonic wave towering 100 feet or more is Florida. The Sunshine State only averages about 6 inches above sea level. A supersonic tsunami would literally sweep away everything from Miami to the panhandle in a matter of minutes. Loss of human life would be virtually instantaneous and measured in the millions. Of course the states of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and southern region of Georgia-a state with no Gulf coastline-would also experience tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of casualties.
 
Loss of property is virtually incalculable and the days of the US position as the world's superpower would be literally gone in a flash...of detonating methane.
 
http://www.helium.com/items/1864136-how-the-ultimate-bp-gulf-disaster-could-kill-millions
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Matthew on June 19, 2010, 11:31:17 AM
Why wouldn't the USA accept help from other countries? Why wouldn't the government instantly get involved? Do they WANT to be in charge of a banana republic, while the rest of the world continues on more or less as normal?

We'd lose our "most powerful nation" status overnight, according to this article.

Matthew
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 21, 2010, 12:41:24 AM
Another interesting Youtube on the oil volcano.

BP Gulf Oil Gusher AKA Volcano:

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=EG_pupjoavU
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 21, 2010, 08:13:18 PM
Oil Hits Seaside, Florida-Beaches Kept Opened:

http://video.godlikeproductions.com/video/Oil_hits_Seasidemov
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 22, 2010, 05:30:59 AM
From Russian Television

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZCvMQhbH-8
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 22, 2010, 08:54:48 AM
NASA Image of oil slick moving over entire gulf:

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=44375&src=nha
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: MyrnaM on June 22, 2010, 07:50:22 PM
Read this, but also listen to the video near the bottom.  

This will increase your rosaries each day.

http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=9175
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 22, 2010, 11:19:28 PM
Underwater Oil Disaster Topography, many images:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19813
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 23, 2010, 10:11:26 AM
Oil Rain In Louisiana:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un8co1d4zb4
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 24, 2010, 08:51:25 AM
Methane in Gulf 1 million Times Normal:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65L6IA20100622
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: MyrnaM on June 24, 2010, 10:50:03 AM
That short video on the oil rain was really telling.  

I feel for the people there, and what it is doing to their health, their property, landscape, and family gardens.  Acid rain, oil mixed water, can you imagine.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Belloc on June 24, 2010, 11:04:01 AM
a real mess for sure!!
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 24, 2010, 11:06:14 PM
SURF ON PENSACOLA BEACH BOILING LIKE ACID:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO193f8xAls
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 25, 2010, 07:05:59 PM
USF Scientists Find Long Line of Oil 6 Inches under the sand
at Pensacola Beach:

Photo Gallery

http://www.tampabay.com/news/environment/usf-scientists-find-long-line-of-oil-6-inches-under-the-sand-at-pensacola/1104804
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 26, 2010, 01:01:18 PM
GULF COAST TOXICITY SYNDROME:


http://intotheashes.imva.info/?p=311/#arrive
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on June 26, 2010, 11:44:20 PM
When even a lev 2 hurricane rolls through the gulf it will oil rain on all the freshwater sources in the SE.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Jacafamala on June 27, 2010, 05:52:59 AM
Quote from: roscoe
When even a lev 2 hurricane rolls through the gulf it will oil rain on all the freshwater sources in the SE.


Let's pray it stays away from the areas affected by the oil gusher.

Tropical Storm Alex sets sights on Gulf of Mexico (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100627/ap_on_re_us/tropical_weather;_ylt=AoH6wu3GhAktcwlpDzBFpU2GWo14;_ylu=X3oDMTM1ZHFrYm1hBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwNjI3L3Ryb3BpY2FsX3dlYXRoZXIEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMyBHBvcwMyBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDdHJvcGljYWxzdG9y)


By PATRICK E. JONES, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 13 mins ago
BELIZE CITY – Tropical Storm Alex headed overland toward the Gulf of Mexico early Sunday, drenching Belize, northern Guatemala and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula with torrential rains.
Meteorologists project Alex, which made landfall on Belize's coast late Saturday, will weaken as it passes over the Yucatan Peninsula but will regain strength once it emerges Sunday afternoon over the Gulf of Mexico, where warm waters could fuel its growth into a hurricane.
According to the most recent predictions, Alex is expected to make a second landfall midweek on the Mexican Gulf coast — far south and west of the region where a deep-sea oil spill is slicking the U.S. coastline.
Hundreds of tourists and residents fled low-lying islands off Belize on Saturday as Alex swept in with torrential downpours and winds of 60 mph (95 kph). Many stocked up on gasoline, water, canned food and other emergency supplies.
Belize officials opened storm shelters in the island tourist resort of San Pedro, as some 1,400 people fled for the mainland by plane and by boat.
Along Mexico's resort-studded Caribbean coast, officials warned tourists to stay out of rough surf kicked up by the storm. But there were no immediate reports of damage to popular beach destinations such as Cancun, Cozumel, Playa del Carmen or Tulum.
State Public Safety director Miguel Ramos Real said 25 fisherman were evacuated and 17 navy personnel were brought to the mainland from a base on Banco Chinchorro, an atoll off the Mexican coast. Three shelters were opened, and ports were closed to small craft.
Now all eyes turn to the Gulf of Mexico.
When Alex became the first named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season, officials immediately worried what effect it could have on the millions of gallons of crude spilled in the Gulf — and on efforts to clean up the slick and cap the leak deep below the waves.
A cap has been placed over the blown-out undersea well and it is carrying some of the oil to a surface ship where it is being collected. Some of the oil is being brought to the surface and burned. Other ships are drilling two relief wells, projected to be done by August, and are the best hope to stop the leak.
For the time being, the storm appears likely to miss the oil-slicked region and make landfall in Mexico, somewhere near the border of Tamaulipas and Veracruz states — but meteorologists warned that a storm's track can quickly change.
The U.S. National Hurricane Center said Alex was centered about 75 miles (120 km) west of Chetumal, Mexico, early Sunday. Maximum sustained winds were about 40 mph (65 kph).
Meanwhile in the Pacific, two storms were far offshore late Saturday night and did not pose an immediate threat to land.
Once-powerful Celia weakened from a hurricane to a tropical storm with maximum sustained winds of 50 mph (85 kph), the hurricane center said. The storm should fall apart by Sunday.
Darby, which was also a powerful hurricane, has also weakened to a tropical storm. Its center is about 310 miles (500 kilometers) south-southwest of Zihuatanejo, Mexico.
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Associated Press writer Gabriel Alcocer in Cancun, Mexico, contributed to this report.

Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 27, 2010, 11:08:03 PM
MSNBC: Oil Spill Unstoppable??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nNA9sBB-cE
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Emerentiana on June 28, 2010, 04:23:57 PM
Here is a great inclusive article on the gulf disaster.  One to save and send

.http://www.buycontacthasbegun.com/support-files/nenjune262010truthconsequences.pdf
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on June 28, 2010, 04:36:08 PM
Try this

http://buycontacthasbegun.com/support-files/nenjune262010truthconsequences.pdf
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 28, 2010, 05:23:35 PM
Unprecedented Fish Die off due to Toxicity:

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/unprecedented-fish-kill-in-jacksonville-for-past-two-weeks-isnt-related-to-annual-cycle-lesions-in-the-brain-points-to-toxicity-photos
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 28, 2010, 11:14:30 PM
EMERGENCY MEDICINE DOCS TREAT GULF OIL SYNDROME:


http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/565969/?sc=mwtr;xy=5024973
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on June 29, 2010, 01:50:56 AM
Now this is interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4oSl_vj06E

"They hit something they didn't know they were gonna hit... they hit a STRATA of oil... a strata of oil that was such high-pressure that it burst every safety valve they had. The pressure behind that oil is so high, that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it..."

Here's another...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr6QxS2N3o8

"1-4 million gallons a day..."
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 29, 2010, 10:26:42 PM
Combating Exposure to Oil Spill Toxins

In AL, MS, LA, TX and Mexico, as soon as prevailing weather conditions changes the dew points, the prevailing winds full of Benzenes and other crude oil VOC's will occupy the air spaces, begin condensing, coastal and inland fogs will be relatively toxic....warnings are extreme benzene exposure to respiratory, skin absorption and direct diffusion into the bloodstream if contact with waters are made, containing pools of crude oil sludges.

Please pass this information along, especially to those in sates surrounding the Gulf....and as the underwater sludges creep up the eastern seaboard of the US...Cuba.

Inhalation of benzene laden air is dangerous, as benzene vapors inhaled will flow directly into the bloodstream.
An 'unknowing' deception will occur, while in these benzene vapors.

1. The olfactory nerve is desensitized. ..meaning, it becomes more and more difficult to discern or detect the smell of the benzene vapors, the longer one is in it...to the point where the olfactory and the taste buds on the back of the tongue can no longer function.... the deception is: If you can't detect it or small it, must be non existent! Wrong! Primary stages of Acute Benzene Shock are probable.

2. If you have friends, relatives, loved ones in these areas (even the ones you don't necessarily like) tell them to stay out of the water, the fogs, rains or mists from the Gulf Oceans. They are now all full of benzenes. From this point forward, fatal benzene exposure will result if the life form remains exposed, in whatever manner.

Combating Exposure to Oil-spill Toxins

Slowing down and 'Reversing' benzene poisoning

3. Use coconut oil, organic grade if possible, or cocoa butter, and wipe onto the exposed skin, face, arms, legs and extremities . . . quite well, even under your clothing. Coconut oil and cocoa butter was found to be a very good 'barrier' to benzenes. It slows down the absorption and diffusion (into bloodstream) thru the upper epithelial cells of the tissue and skin. As benzenes are blocked by the vegetable oil barrier, this reduces permeability thru the Skin. This reduces the probability of 'chemical-type' burns.

4. Petroleum Jelly is exactly the opposite and SHOULD NOT be used. Benzenes are not blocked in any way...as they came from petroleum! DUH?
Reversing is also known as detoxifying.

5. Lignite coal and water solutions were known by oil field workers, to keep headaches away, take the numbness out of their lips and skin, generally, make them feel better after working in the oil field all day. Lignite coal solution in water...around 4 to 5 % solution, when simply wiped onto the skin even with coconut oil on them, will immediately diffuse into the bloodstream, just by wringing your hands, onto the arms...don't wipe it off, let it dry. The lignite coal solution in water 'dissociates' the benzene molecular structure, even in the bloodstream. The lignite method unplugs the systemic poisoning stream. oxygen will once again displace the Benzene on the receptor.

Washing Off Humans or Animals

Do not use any soaps or dish washing soaps that contain 9-Moles ethylene oxide surfactants. ...represented by Dawn dish soap, Palmolive dish soaps or many many others...These type surfactants leave an ethylene oxide residue on the skin and hairs, feathers...when washed, oil may be wettened...but the benzenes actually diffuse faster into the bloodstream, because of the water soluble ethylene oxide.

Amway LOC or even Borax 20 Mule Team

Washing the skin, hair feathers, even fish and dolphins with these cleansers are made from natural ingredients or even minerals.... natural soaps such as Borax. These cleansers remove the oils and benzenes but do not leave water-soluble residues.

A wash down should be followed by a good rinsing...then rub a topical of the lignite solution onto the skin, hair feathers, or fish, dolphins...will not harm them.

Kooky Soap

Combating Exposure to Oil-spill Toxins

Dr. Castle developed a really good soap years ago that I just called Kooky Soap that anyone can make.

It's simple . . .
Combine a small amount of Borax Soap, a small amount of Williard's XXX Brown conc., a small amt of Silver Colloid, goodly amount of Citrus (Orange) Oil (Florida Chemical) and the rest Amway's LOC (Liquid Organic Cleaner)

Dr. Michael Castle has used it for washing dishes, showering, shampooing, and washing pets.

Dr. Castle has no monetary connections to the sales or distribution of any of these materials I have cited, herein.

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Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on June 30, 2010, 10:35:38 AM
Treachery In The Gulf
By Robbi Skye Campbell
6-29-10
 

What has happened in the Gulf of Mexico was not by accident. It was most likely a design to support an agenda. What that agenda is we do not know exactly but I will try to connect the dots. We may soon know the true extent of its nature by the "solutions" our government imposes on the people in the Gulf area.
 
There are some major problems:
 
The Obama administration allowed BP to drill at an unstable site (highly over pressured) in 5,000 feet of water;
 
BP CEO Tony Hayward dumped his BP stock 2 months before the spill;
 
The well was kicking since they drilled into the production zone, so the drilling fluid or mud was underbalanced (mud weight not quite heavy enough for the upward pressure of the gas);
 
Goldman Sachs dumped 44% of BP stock and went short on Transocean stock the day before the spill;
 
The drilling crew knew that the annular blowout preventer was damaged and BP company man Kazula did not order it repaired;
 
BP company man Kazula was a greenhorn on the Deepwater Horizon (he was inexperienced);
 
The well was cased, cemented and had two cement abandonment plugs in place, so how could the well be kicking (trying to blow out)?;
 
BP company man Kazula sent away the Schlumberger team (supposed to do the cement bond log to check Halliburton's cement job on the casing);
 
Despite this the BP company man made the decision to change the mud over to seawater (seawater is 40% lighter than the drilling mud). This is not logical;
 
Shouting match between the rig superintendent and the company man. Superintendent felt that the order to change over to seawater was irrational and suicidal;
 
During the changeover of the mud to seawater is when the blowout naturally occurred;
 
President Obama stood by but did not take action for at least three weeks after the spill;
 
BP and the White House allowed the spill to continue;
 
The White House allowed BP to spray the highly toxic chemical, Corexit 9500, which is considered to be four to ten times more toxic than the oil itself. EPA told BP not to use Corexit 9500 and BP ignored the federal agency. Corexit is being sprayed at nighttime on coastal residences by the CIA-front, Evergreen Air (which reportedly also sprays chemtrails);
 
Negligible cleanup measures on the shores and at sea;
 
Barack Obama sent SWAT teams to production platforms and drilling rigs;
 
Obama sent the Army and National Guard into the Gulf States ­ for what reason?
 
Suppression of investigative reporting of the spill;
 
BP arrested people taking pictures of the area;
 
BP is allowed to reap the benefit of gathering oil rather than stopping the spill;
 
Interests and livelihood of the residents suppressed and not considered in decisions;
 
President Obama is using the spill to get the "Cap and Trade" bill passed;
 
Twenty-two countries have offered their experience in spill control and cleanup but neither our government nor BP has accepted their offers;
 
BP and Obama have declined to use non-toxic microbes as a clean-up measure;
 
BP company man Kazula invoked the Fifth Amendment under congressional questioning of his orders.
 
 
Where are the environmental groups? The Santa Barbara spill in 1969 was from an offshore drilling rig in the Santa Barbara Channel. It was a blowout on Union Oil's platform A; over ten days it was estimated that 80,000 to 100,000 barrels of crude oil spilled into the channel and onto the beaches from Goleta to Rincon and all four Channel Islands. The oil spill prompted a congressional moratorium in 1981 on new offshore oil leasing with exceptions of the Gulf of Mexico and parts of offshore Alaska that remained in effect until 2008 when Congress did not renew it.
 
This was the coming out of environmental groups. At the same time Friends of the Earth was heavily supported by BP, ARCO, and EXXON in its litigation against those companies to prevent the completion of the Alaska Pipeline until the price of oil was raised by the Ayatollah in 1978. Friends of the Earth then withdrew is lawsuit and the pipeline was allowed to begin transporting much more valuable oil.
 
In 1989 we saw the Exxon Valdez spill which was the largest oil spill at 10.8 million gallons (250,000 barrels) when it hit the Prince William Sound's Bligh Reef. Others estimated a far greater amount, closer to 30 million gallons. It was considered to be one of the most devastating environmental disasters. The tanker's Rayas sonar was not turned on. It was broken and disabled for longer than one year and was considered too expensive to repair or replace. The environmental groups were all over them, and the media piled on.
 
The Exxon Valdez crew was criticized for its slow response. The environmental groups were powerful and their voices were heard. In response to this spill the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 (OPA) was passed by Congress. It prohibited after 22 MAR 1989 any vessel that has caused a spill of greater than one million US gallons in any marine area from operating in the Prince William Sound. Even though the tanker involved in the spill was double-hulled, this spill resulted in all tankers ordered to be double-hulled. To this day, the spill affects the lives of the people living in the Prince William Sound area. The cleanup has not been successful; more than 26,000 gals of oil remain on the shoreline and the marine life has not recovered. Only 10% of the oil was recovered.
 
Even though the environmental groups may have had some effect on the spill it was the community that took the full brunt of the accident. The Chugach Alaska Corporation had to file Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Losses included recreational sports, fisheries, reduced tourism and of something economists call "existence value," which is the value to the public of a pristine Prince William Sound. The economy of Cordova, Alaska was adversely affected with damage to the herring and salmon stock. Several residents and the mayor committed ѕυιcιdє.
 
Let's take a look at what happened to the cleanup crew of the Exxon Valdez. Workers stood in oil foam for 18 hours per day. The boats steered through a hydrocarbon haze. The workers came from the area ­ fisherman and sportsmen suddenly jobless. They were hired by Exxon. They were treated for headaches, nausea, chemical burns, breathing problems. Many or all of them were never the same after working the summer for Exxon. Most of the workers died young due to lung disease (asthma, emphysema), liver, pancreatic and spleen problems. Workers went in 100% healthy and came out sick. Well and vibrant, they all became sick after a summer of hard work in Prince William Sound. There were thousands of workers affected by headaches, cancer, rashes, kidney and liver disease ­ all the result of massive chemical exposure to the dispersants, solvents and crude oil mix. We may never know how many people were affected by the Exxon Valdez spill because Exxon and their cleanup company, Velco Inc., denied government investigators the medical records.
 
* * *
 
Russia is another country that has had uncontrollable blowouts. They have had five cratered blowouts. They found that drilling a relief well that intersects the wild well and then placing and detonating a nuclear device (which slid the formation across the wild well bore, choking it off) were successful solutions.
 
In 1963 the Russians had a horrible blowout that lasted three years spewing twelve million cubic meters of flaming gas each day. Albert Vasiliev (nuclear physicist and gas well firefighter) said, "We were acting like surgeons in last resort cases, but it worked." The blowout sounded like 100 jet planes all at once. A nuclear blast choked it off. This method was found to be effective and they used it on similar cases. Vyacheslav Klishin (nuclear physicist, gas well firefighter) said, "One needs to tie up the well where the leak is. There are only two ways: 1. [A relief well to intersect the wild well, injecting mud and cement into the bore]; 2. A nuclear explosion." The Russians and other countries are obviously alarmed by the Gulf catastrophe and have offered their experience and expertise in wild well control, but Barack Obama and BP have ignored their offers. We can only infer from this that our government and BP are not going to control the well. There is an agenda, but what is it?
 
What will happen if the well continues to release 125,000 barrels of oil and at least 9,000 PSI hydrogen sulfide, benzene and methylene chloride gases each day? Benzene is the aromatic hydrocarbon component of crude oil, which is highly toxic and carcinogenic to boot. Acceptable levels are 0 to 4 parts per billion. In Florida, Alabama and Louisiana they have measured 3,000 ppb on shore! Hydrogen sulfide is allowable at 5 to 10 parts per billion. In the above states, H2S has been measured at up to 1,200 ppb. The allowable limit of methylene chloride is 61 parts per billion. The same states have found levels as high as 3,000 to 3,400 ppd!
 
The oil flow in the Gulf is equivalent to the Exxon Valdez every two days. It will follow the currents of the Gulf of Mexico to the shores of Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Bahamas and the Caribbean. Russian scientists have said that, once in the Gulf Stream, it will drastically affect the fishing industry globally. There are millions of families that have made their livelihoods on fishing, shrimping and crabbing. The restaurant, hotel and sports businesses based on tourism will be affected. The chemicals have evaporated into the atmosphere and have condensed, falling on the plant life, farms and the entire environment surrounding the Gulf of Mexico causing corrosive lesions on plants and killing the birds. It is now raining chemicals in Louisiana.
 
There may be more that it has affected so far but this is what we have seen on the Internet and YouTube. The currents move around the peninsula of Florida and along the East Coast. This will directly affect more coastal regions in a similar fashion as what we are seeing in the Gulf. We are nearing the hurricane season which will drive the toxic mixture inland. The toxic combination of oil, methane and Corexit will continue to have detrimental effects on our environment and humanity. It is a carcinogen. The hydrocarbon fumes and Corexit are causing symptoms which will manifest in diseases that will afflict plants, animals and humans.
 
People along the coastal regions will become sick and die prematurely.
 
* * *
 
It is ironic that the moral and ethical guidelines for the United Nations' Wildlands Project are based on the philosophy of "Deep Ecology." Our government and BP are creating a famine by letting the blowout continue in its present state. As mentioned above, the EPA objected to the use of Corexit 9500 but Barack Obama did not step in to stop its use. Greenpeace has a boat in the Gulf of Mexico performing research. Research is not the first step that is needed in this life-changing disaster. This is the only NGO environmental group that I have seen in the mainstream media. They have not spoken out on the marine life that is being killed daily, nor have they made any statements on the use of the cancerous chemical Corexit. There is a report from the Sea Turtle Restoration Project that BP has stopped the rescue of Kemp's Ridleys that were trapped in the oil. These sea turtles are being burned with the oil. Burning the oil releases toxic fumes into the atmosphere.
 
We seem to be witnessing the collapse of the environmental organizations, none of which has an expected strident position regarding the worst ecological disaster that the modern world has ever known. Hasn't it been their self-appointed responsibility to speak out? Are the environmental organizations taking money from the big polluters?
 
Every step during this disaster appears to be controlled by an unprecedented amount of greed. Even greed does not figure because so much natural wealth is being destroyed. What is really going on here?
 
Barack Obama spoke to the nation for the first time last week with confident assurances that the Gulf coast would be restored to its original condition eventually. There was no method mentioned. He has made four photo ops trips to the Gulf region, conferring mainly with BP and local leaders. He did not speak to the people who reside in the area. The last one I saw was a silent video showing Obama with a BP cleanup crew relaxing at a picnic table. A local resident commented, "The cleanup crew was there for appearances only; their garbage bags were empty. When Obama left, they got on a bus and left, too."
 
Why do we have a media blackout on a catastrophe that will affect the whole world? BP has hired the CIA-front company, Wackenhut, to patrol the shoreline and prevent reporters, residents and visitors from witnessing, describing and recording the damage. Private thugs are forcing the public off public beaches.
 
In 1966, The Report from Iron Mountain asked the question: How do you duplicate the total control over the population in peacetime that you have during wartime? Written by Leonard Lewin and immediately branded a satire by government spokesmen, it nevertheless had the ring of truth. We have since seen all of its extreme programs brought to life by the US government. The most notable example is the 1992 Agenda for the 21st Century. Agenda 21 is a United Nations program but it was spearheaded and directly sponsored by President George H.W. Bush at the Rio Conference. President Bush promised the attendees that Americans would one day pledge their allegiance to the United Nations as he made Agenda 21 de facto US policy.
 
Once in office, one of the first things President Clinton did by executive order was establish the Presidents Council for Sustainable Development. All aspects of life were covered, though no one in Congress complained or demanded hearings or any sort of debate. Seventeen years later we see Agenda 21 being quietly enforced in federal, state and local laws and regulations. Agenda 21 is the framework for world government, imposed on us by our own town and city councils, our own county supervisors. But it's not called "Agenda 21" by the planners. It's called "Sustainable Development."
 
"Sustainable Development" is a code word for world government. The term "world government" is a euphemism for merciless dictatorship. The excuses are the issues of environmental protection, preservation of water and anti-pollution. For example, most of America will be designated as "wildlands" and will be off-limits to Americans. After a severe reduction of the population, survivors will be highly concentrated into "Smart Growth" cities, stacked and packed into high-rise housing projects.
 
By reducing the population to the numbers found around the Dark Ages (five hundred million), government control is thought by the planners to be manageable. To get down to five hundred million people from our present population of six billion people will require a ninety-two percent reduction. The reliable methods of population reduction we saw in the last century ­ Capitalist world wars and Communism ­ only achieved reductions in the hundreds of millions. Famine and genocide in Africa were not sufficiently destructive. Agenda 21 calls for the slaughter of five and a half billion people.
 
AIDS has affected its target populations here and in Africa but the Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Ebola, Lyme disease, BSE (mad cow disease) have not taken the numbers wanted. These are all, in my opinion, government-created weapons. Government vaccine programs have not been successful in creating disease and mortality in the numbers needed. The right combination, however, of disease and famine could accomplish the goal.
 
The oil flow, blown inland by storms, will create water shortages by poisoning fresh water sources. People who have been subsistence-living will no longer have ways to live as they had been doing for generations. Farmers will lose production due to chemical rain, thus creating food shortages and famine across America and possibly Mexico and South America. People living on seafood will have the most difficulty and may die off quickly. Oil residue has already been seen in seafood in restaurants and grocery stores. More economic alternative food sources will be sought as the price of seafood skyrockets.
 
Genetically-altered food sources created by Monsanto will cause disease and early death. Already the use of Monsanto "ѕυιcιdє seeds" in America has adversely affected the honey bees. Our honey bee population has been drastically reduced. Scientists have found that the genetically-altered DNA has affected bee nervous systems, causing a die off, which is now called "colony collapse disorder." Without honey bees, pollination ceases and this will be the end of a natural way of life.
 
There will be migrations to urban areas as the coastal people lose everything that made their lives worth living. The "Smart Growth" collectivization of stacking and packing will begin. A single family home with a yard will be something of the past and longed for. Actually the packing of people into small areas will increase the spread of diseases and violence. Two of the tenets of Deep Ecology philosophy in the Wildlands Project are: The human population must be reduced; western civilization must radically change its present economic, technological and ideological structures. Independent entrepreneurs will be things of the past.
 
To support the Wildlands Project we find the American Lands Alliance group and, at the state level, the creation of the Coalition to Restore Coastal Louisiana (CRCL), which has turned into a land-grab with the support of the US Army Corps of Engineers and the Coastal Restoration and Protection Authority (CRPA). Here is how it works (from "The Louisiana Land-Grab" by Zack Walley):
 
"The U.S. Army Corp of Engineers has moved to usurp traditional private property protections in Louisiana's Atchafalaya Basin. In a highly questionable action the USACE has forced conservation easements on the properties of an untold number of homeowners, farmers, timber producers and sportsmen in a 338,000 acre area (equaling an area 10 miles wide and 53 miles long).
 
In an attempt to avoid the Fifth Amendment's prohibition against land takings, the USACE attorney did not refer to these as conservation easements but called them 'Flowage Development Control and Environmental Protection Easements' (FLOWAGE) and used some really 'new math' to adjust the 'fair-market value' of the property down from $1,000 per acre to $125."  
 
Every day that BP and our government allow the oil to flow and the use of Corexit, more of the earth will be poisoned. The land won't be worth a dollar and a quarter, never mind a hundred and a quarter.
 
The marine life that does survive will be contaminated. Recovery of the areas affected is highly unlikely especially when looking at our past record in the Exxon Valdez spill. The use of cancer-causing Corexit has made this disaster many times more toxic than just oil alone.
 
News reporter Kerry Kennedy says the people in the Gulf are experiencing symptoms of nausea, headaches and burning eyes. Didn't BP learn anything from Exxon, or did they learn too much? No one is encouraged to wear respirators and rubber gloves because BP is worried about causing a state of hysteria, i.e., a state of awareness. The doctors do not know exactly how to treat the patients coming in since they don't know what chemicals BP is using. Only band aids and aspirin are provided to the workers in the Gulf by BP's company doctors. All I can say is that a majority of the Valdez workers were dead ten years later. The White House has not responded appropriately so BP as a corporation has taken control of the area without the consent of the people.
 
Looking at the big picture does put a new light on who is expendable. White House chief of staff Rahm Emmanuel has said, "Never let a crisis go to waste." And Obama says we are addicted to oil. (This from a man whose largest campaign contributor was BP) We would not have to be using so much oil if so many inventors of alternative energy and free energy had not been frightened off or killed.
 
Obama's first televised address to the nation was right out of the UN's Sustainable Development handbook, the comprehensive plan to regulate our behavior via the federal, state and local levels of government, primarily the local level. This scheme has been enhanced until recently by the term "global warming," which was necessarily modified to "global climate change," since we now appear to be in a cooling period. Fortunately, the last climate change conference in Copenhagen failed to produce a new climate change treaty. At Copenhagen, some of the American conservation groups demanded a course of action that will lead to environmental disaster faster. BP is heavily tied to eco-groups like Conservation International and Nature Conservancy. Real science often is thrown out the window to accommodate the programs of Big Oil and Big Coal. This will only be tackled when the green lobbyists in the US stop taking cash from Big Oil and Big Coal.
 
City Paper pointed out that BP spent "hundreds of millions of dollars" to "transform its image from that of a dirty old oil company into 'Beyond Petroleum' ­ a company so environmentally friendly it had transcended oil drilling (and spilling) for happy, sunny and clean technologies such as wind and solar."
 
They also noted that the environmental groups "trumpeted their ties to corporations, arguing that these partnerships lead to better corporate environmental policies and less damage to the planet."
 
That's exactly how the relationship between BP and Conservation International was framed by ABC's "Nightline" back in 2002".
 
The main objectives are to end national sovereignty, abolition of private property, the "restructuring" of the family unit, increasing restrictions on mobility and individual opportunity. Barack Obama's way to do this is with something he calls "Cap and Trade."
 
I must admit, for the longest time I did not know what "Cap and Trade" meant. Nothing in those three words suggests anything to do with ecology but "Cap and Trade" is an environmentally-based scam, an artificial marketplace designed to reduce pollution by paying people who reduce pollution with money from polluters. "Cap" refers to limits, or caps, on emissions. So, we would have an emissions trading system in which total emissions are limited, or capped. Permits would be allocated or auctioned up to the set cap on emissions and a market would allow polluting members who are emitting less than their quotas to sell their excess permits to polluters who need to buy "credits" to meet their caps. Which is all as totally phony as it sounds, and as totally phony as "man-made global warming." The globe is warmed by the sun, or not, if it puts out less heat. Paying money or being paid has nothing to do with pollution or "greenhouse gasses."
 
What "Cap and Trade" does is to create more restrictions and controls on people.
 
Some are asking, is there a hidden agenda behind all the foot dragging to the clean-up and to stopping the spill? At my local library, which covers Santa Barbara County, I asked the reference librarian to help me find anything on the Agenda for the 21st Century. What I found was surprising. There were no books, magazines or videos on this subject. The librarian found two brief articles and one review article not on the subject of Agenda 21 but on one aspect of it, the Wildlands Project. The buzz words "Sustainable Development" were used. Nowhere in the public library could one try to inform himself on the scope of Agenda 21. I suspect that this is the way it is throughout America. Agenda 21 is literally a hidden agenda.
 
The policymakers have created innocent-sounding catch phrases to capture the hearts and minds of our educators and their students. It will be the students who are the spring board to making Agenda 21 possible through grassroots groups that will carry over to our city councils, town councils and county boards where the policies are made. All these "Sustainable Development" policies and regulations have stolen our soul for life for the communal good. These policies are destroying the soul of life. This is what we are giving up every time we accept these policies. The first point in the moral and ethical guidelines for the Wildlands Project is: All life (human and non-human) has equal value (a minnow is as valuable as man). What we are giving away is what sets man apart from all other animals, our souls.
 
This is the most devastating disaster that we have known. It will affect millions of people in the Gulf States, the Eastern Coast and everywhere the Gulf Stream goes. Agenda 21 is not only for America ­ it is international as a United Nations policy for the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. But while we still have some tattered shreds of our Bill of Rights left, each of us who has an ounce of soul left needs to find out for himself and herself the full extent of Agenda 21 and how it will impact on your family's life.
 
Agenda 21 has been creeping through each town and city council for 17 years. The first thing to do is to take a good look at what is happening to the people who are living in the Gulf States and etch into our brains what will happen to your family in the near future. Our response to this must be to seize control of our local institutions, our town and city councils and county boards of supervisors and force the rejection of any and all programs, regulations and policies that conform to the United Nations' Agenda for the 21st Century. Gulf Coast residents must demand non-toxic forms of clean-up such as bioremediation, i.e., oil-eating microbes.
 
 
Robbi Skye Campbell, humanitarian environmentalist, medical doctor, medicine woman & artist
 
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Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on June 30, 2010, 05:27:55 PM
If the video I linked to in my last post is correct, then no, it wasn't planned. Even if BP had done everything correctly, in that scenario, it wouldn't have made one bit of difference, because they drilled a stupidly deep well in an equally stupid place. It would be like drilling through the earth and hitting magma, and complaining that when it came up and no one could stop it. If it's true that they hit an oil STRATA, then the pressure would have been so ridiculous there would have been no way to stop it no matter what they did.

That video was actually one of a series, and if you go to the person's channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/73freshman#p/u/9/sVK35epQapM) and listen to the whole series, it's very interesting. It sounds plausible, given that they can't seem to stop it no matter what they do.

EDIT: Of course the powers that be will certainly try to take advantage of the situation, no matter WHAT really happened.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: parentsfortruth on July 02, 2010, 01:25:08 PM
I'm hearing that there are organisms that can actually eat the oil that is gushing into the Gulf (that God actually put right near that volcano down there for this very reason)... and it would take a few years to clean it up, but the corexit is going to kill people...

Perhaps their plan is to evacuate and confiscate land so that when it's back to normal, they can just have stolen it from the former inhabitants.

Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: MyrnaM on July 02, 2010, 01:48:51 PM
Lately I haven't been hearing much about this, and I wonder why, the oil is still gushing.  Hard to believe!
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on July 02, 2010, 05:39:40 PM
The powers that be probably hope we'll all forget about it like we forget about everything else. After all, if they really can't stop it, I'm not sure what they'd tell the people anyhow, especially around where it's going on. "All right folks... You can all start panicking now. You are, in fact, going to die from this."  :facepalm: I just can't picture that on CNN.  :scratchchin:
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: MyrnaM on July 02, 2010, 07:52:47 PM
Don't know anything about this web site, but this link about the gusher is a recent one.

http://tinyurl.com/25b6tvo
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on July 02, 2010, 09:01:35 PM
I found this at Rense

http://intotheashes.imva.info/?p=367
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 02, 2010, 10:31:58 PM
Quote from: MyrnaM
Lately I haven't been hearing much about this, and I wonder why, the oil is still gushing.  Hard to believe!


Here is a little update:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLvNqlVNMh0

You can get a wealth of information on Jeff Rense.
He has a special section on the crisis in the Gulf.
You can hear the July 1 Broadcast in which Dr. Patricia
Doyle, PhD, and Lindsay Williams regarding the Oil
Disaster.

One thing Jeff stressed all the air monitor stations have
been turned off in the Gulf States We are not getting information about the
gases, and the poisons that is already in the air.
Except a news station in New Orleans that reported the
toxicity already been measured by the EPA that was
broadcasted about two weeks after the disaster begun.
Already, the toxicity was at deadly levels
Jeff believes that there is a mass extermination of people
being planned.
Do not trust that you get any truthful coverage from the
mass media, they only report what they are allowed to
say. They want you to think that the spill is over with
 the exception of the cleanup.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 03, 2010, 12:41:43 PM
This is am example of what we are not hearing from  our
national news media.
This situation in the Gulf is just beginning.

BREAKING NEWS; REPORTS SAYS HUGH EXPLOSIONS
CAUSED SEAFLOOR COLLAPSE BENEATH THE GULF OIL
GUSHER:

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/05/24/breaking-news-reports-huge-explosions-seafloor-collapse-beneath-gulf-oil-spill/
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 03, 2010, 03:05:49 PM
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It shouldn't be a state secret, but if you relied on the US news media, you'd never know who really owns and controls BP.

The media myth is it's "British-owned. " That's only partially correct.

The media is protecting three well known - and notorious - corporations.
 
There's a lot of talk about BP being a British company.

Actually, the ownership and control of the company is a lot more complex.

Some facts not reported in the news:

1. 29% of BP is owned by JP Morgan and US companies own 39% of it total (And guess who owns JP Morgan?  Rockafella !
    Iran & Iraq kicked B.P. out years ago - FACT! Explains a lot doesn't it?
   

2. Halliburton, one of the main contractors on the rig, is considered the party responsible for failing to cap the well properly. They moved their headquarters out of the US to Dubai recently.

3. The former CEO from 1997 to 2009 who was ousted by a sex scandal was also Chairman of Goldman Sachs. Goldman sold a massive amount of its BP holdings in early 2010 and one of its employees bragged in an e-mail in early April that they were "shorting" the Gulf and looking forward to huge profits from an environmental disaster there.
 
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Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 04, 2010, 01:13:01 AM
BP OIL DISASTER WORST CASE SCENARIO WITH
KINDRA ARNESEN. BP COMMUNITY LIAISON:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpJVELKPPM
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on July 04, 2010, 11:39:25 AM
Wow.... No more Florida?  :thinking: I guess that would be why they haven't nuked it yet...
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Elizabeth on July 04, 2010, 03:12:40 PM
Wow, Miss Kindra's on fire!  I watched a few of her talks.  :applause:
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: MyrnaM on July 04, 2010, 03:27:08 PM
For some reason I had a hard time understanding her voice, but after a couple of times I could understand her.  

Sixty days!  That was scary to hear.  
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on July 04, 2010, 04:35:38 PM
Glad I don't know anyone living down there anymore.  :thinking: I feel sorry for those that do, though...
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 04, 2010, 07:03:29 PM
BP GULF OIL COVERS DOLPHINS AND WHALES.

THIS IS THE MOST EMOTIONALLY DISTURBING VIDEO EVER DONE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxDf-KkMCKQ
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 04, 2010, 09:48:04 PM
US:Felony charges, big fines for reporting within the
Gulf Oil Zone:

The above posted video may be the last.

http://www.legitgov.org/US-Felony-charges-big-fines-reporting-within-Gulf-oil-spill-zone
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 06, 2010, 10:47:28 PM
OIL/WATER SAMPLES FROM THE GULF...VERY TOXIC:

VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq65E7rmO_k
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 07, 2010, 09:35:09 AM
THEY MUST BE HIDING SOMETHING REALLY BIG:

ARTICLE

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/they-must-be-hiding-something-really-big_07052010
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Elizabeth on July 07, 2010, 03:46:02 PM
Has anyone seen the 1970's board game called Offshore Oil Strike?

It has the old BP logo, and is said to have major similarities to the current catastrophe.  The money is even in dollars, although the game is set in Europe.

Mmm.


Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 08, 2010, 07:07:54 PM
Operate to Failure-The Catastrophe of the
Millennium:

Article

http://phoenixrisingfromthegulf.wordpress.com/2010/07/04/global-catastrophe-reaches-epic-proportions/
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 12, 2010, 10:35:06 AM
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Gulf Coast Must Act Now!

http://cleanthegulfnow.org/archives/gulf-coast-must-act-now/

This post is written by Pam Brundige Batson, who lives in Mobile, AL. Pam attended last week's community meeting, hosted by Dr. Riki Ott and Dr. Steven Picou. This is a critical summary of information every one of you must know – especially if you live anywhere near the Gulf coast. Pam's note begins now (emphasis added by me):

Disclaimer: Any facts that are mis-stated should be attributed to me, the note-taker who was jotting down things as fast as I could, and certainly not to the speakers, Dr. Ott and Dr. Picou, both who are brilliant, wonderful invididuals who have only the Gulf of Mexico, and the Gulf Coast communities best interests at heart.

On July 6, 2010 — Day 77 of the Gulf Crisis — Dr. Steven Picou, Professor of Sociology at University of South Alabama and Dr. Riki Ott, marine toxicologist and foremost authority of the Exxon Valdez disaster spoke to a group of people from Mobile and Baldwin Counties at Alabama Delta Resource Center.

An interesting and almost unbelievable note is that Riki Ott and Steven Picou became close friends after the Exxon Valdez incident. Dr. Picou left Mobile and spent a lot of time in Alaska conducting research about the social impact the oil spill had on residents. Riki Ott said, "Steven was there to help my people, and now I've come to help his people." Such is a bitter-sweet twist of fate.

Dr. Picou opened the meeting by speaking about what we can expect from the social impact, and how the cleanup efforts will be more destructive than the oil spill itself. He referred to PTSD — Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. He and Dr. Ott agreed that the BP disaster is the Exxon Valdez in fast forward mode, that everything is unfolding at a much faster rate. In Alaska, the first ѕυιcιdє took place 4 years after the spill. The Gulf Coast experienced its first ѕυιcιdє (the charter boat captain at Gulf Shores, AL) on Day 65.

Dr. Picou diagrammed how the loss of social capital emerges into a corrosive community. We have already witnessed the loss of trust in BP, and then the loss of trust in the federal government, then it dribbled down to the state government. (The newspapers and media are quoting leaders on the local government level as having lost trust in the state government.) When the only trust in government the community retains is for government at the local level, Dr. Picou warned that, too, will soon fade (and it already is). This downward spiral will continue until citizens turn against other citizens, then family members against each other. (Already, in the last 4 weeks, the hard-hit fishing community of Bayou La Batre, AL has witnessed a 50% crime rate increase.) Not only in Bayou La Batre, but everywhere that is directly affected, we're seeing what some are calling the "spillionaires" and what one member in the audience called the "BP Whores." In other words, BP picks and chooses who will work for them. One unemployed fishermen gets to participate in the Vessels of Opportunity program (skimming, laying boom, etc.) while his/her neighbor's boat sits idle, and the owner faces bankruptcy in less than a handful of months.

(Note from Jen: I spoke with an occupational safety expert who worked Exxon Valdez. He told me that Exxon placed "moles" in the community there to find the families who were feuding with each other, and then stoked the flames by hiring from one family and not the other. BP is doing the same. They are pitting us against each other because as long as they can keep us fighting amongst ourselves, we cannot see clearly enough to unite and fight with them. DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE. SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING AND CHANGE IT!)

"This is not a 100-meter dash we're running. This is a marathon. And we haven't even run the first lap, yet."

Riki Ott describes the oil as an amoeba — it's constantly moving, yawning, stretching, growing. It's an evolving monster and we are under siege by it.

"The Exxon Valdez incident directly impacted the lives of 22,000 people. The BP Oil Spill will directly impact the lives of 30 million people."

Dr. Ott — "When BP says that we will make you whole again, what they are really saying is that we'll see you in court." Nineteen years after the Exxon Valdez, Exxon ended up paying 10 cents on the dollar for every claim filed. The law that is written holding oil companies responsible does not include: devaluation of property, or symptoms that are related to cold, cough or flu. This is the loop-hole that will get BP out of this. The toxins will attack our respiratory tracts, leaving long-term damage, yet because "cough" is excluded, BP will end up having to pay very few medical claims.

Dr. Ott said that we are in a democracy crisis, that she thought it was bad during the Exxon Valdez, that Exxon was aggressive and the U.S. government was passive, but what she is seeing here is much worse. BP is much more aggressive than Exxon ever was in that it is calling all the shots in the clean-up effort and has seized control of the media and censorship, even down to seizing control of no-fly zones. She said that if the U.S. government was passive during the Exxon Valdez, they are, for all intents and purposes, non-existent during the Gulf crisis.

She said that one EPA whistle-blower had once stated that the South was the region of the country to which EPA formulated one extreme end of the spectrum for its "tolerance" test, i.e. how much people would take before they began to scream in protest. She said that Southerners are known to be more docile, accepting and respectful of authority, that it's the way we're raised — a part of the "southern hospitality" package. With a twinkle in her eye, Dr. Ott said, "But just what if the South were to rise again!"

She came to the Gulf Coast May 3. What she witnessed caused even her to relapse into post-traumatic stress syndrome. She had to get away, if only for a few days. Memorial Day weekend she decided to fly back home to Alaska for a few days. She got as far as Seattle airport, turned around and came back. She knows what it is like, and for the time being, she isn't leaving us.

She stressed that the government doesn't have, nor will they ever have a Plan B. We, The People, must come up with a Plan B if we are to get through this. The killing will not stop with the spill. The killing of marine life goes on and on. The 4th year after the Exxon Valdez was when Alaska suffered the most. By that time, they knew the red herring population was gone forever. That was when the ѕυιcιdєs began, starting with their very own mayor, who up until that point had been a courageous leader. 21 years later, the red herring is still absent in their waters, and they have no hope it will ever come back, at least not in our lifetimes. The Gulf will have many species of marine life that won't survive this, and which will never come back. We need to prepare ourselves for this inevitability.

Four years after the Exxon Valdez, the media was gone, no attention given to their dying communities, their dead wildlife and their sick and dying residents. She told us a story of how in a call of desperation, the community took all the fishing boats and every recreational boat available and blockaded the oil tankers from coming in to gather the oil from the pipeline. The FBI was called in, but they only got as far as Valdez, because the residents had every single boat in the water forming the blockade. They held the blockade for 3 days. Finally, the president called and said, "Okay, let's hear what these fishermen have to say, what they want." She warned that this is what will happen along the Gulf Coast. The rest of the world will forget about the sensationalism of the oil spill, while we witness the slow death of everything, both animal and human. We will be left alone to survive the economic, ecologic and human damage.

The three methods used by Exxon in 1989 that didn't work then, yet 21 years later BP is using these same tactics: Boom, Berms, and Dispersants.

Corexit is TOXIC. It is the equivalent of an industrial solvent. She said if you have to wonder how toxic it is, how toxic our waters are, look to how the propellers are being eaten off of the boats in the clean-up effort. Corexit has been proven to kill human babies in the womb, to destroy marine life, and is banned in almost every country in the world (including Great Britain) yet EPA has been powerless to stop BP from pumping millions of gallons of this toxin into the Gulf. Dr. Ott explained why EPA has been powerless. The laws were written 50 years ago. We must demand through pro-active measures that EPA amends its NCP product list to de-list this toxic agent.

During the Exxon Valdez spill, Corexit was used by Exxon. Exxon owned the production of Corexit at the time.

Guess who owns Corexit now? You got it — BP

Dr. Ott says it is rumored in high circles that BP has almost exhausted the world's stockpile of Corexit. THAT is how much they've already pumped into the Gulf of Mexico. She thinks that after all of this is said and done, and the world witnesses the far-reaching damage from this toxic agent, Corexit will never be manufactured again. Unfortunately, our Gulf will have been offered up in sacrifice by that time.

Five components of oil (all of them toxic):

Tar balls — and don't let anyone tell you they are harmless because they aren't. They are congealed oil, and in the heat of the Gulf Coast, they are baking under the sun and becoming even more toxic all the time.
Oil mousse
Dissolved oil and dispersants — this is the "invisible" oil. We don't see it, but it is there.
Sheen — and this includes the "orange water" that is produced from the dispersants and is so very toxic
Air — 92% of oil will go up and down from the surface in ultra-fine particles, rising in the air, forming in the clouds, coming back to us in the form of rain, then going back into the water again.
For humans on the Gulf Coast, air quality is our biggest enemy. If you can smell it, you know you're sunk. Once you can smell the oil, you've just been exposed to 1000 times the toxic levels. The oil mixed with Corexit is a chemical nightmare when it comes to air quality. She said that our communities are in desperate need of OEM physicians. The only way to detect chemical poisoning is through blood tests.

It was mentioned by someone who had spoken to a Hazmat worker who had worked a moderate hurricane, the oil will be lifted and travel through the air, splashing against houses as far as 30 miles inland. Not only will this be nasty, but it poses a high risk of chemical combustion and uncontrollable fires.

Dr. Ott said that with a major hurricane, the ultra-fine particles of oil mixed with dispersant will be carried as far as 500 miles inland.

The "canaries" in our community will be these people (those who are most at risk from chemical poisoning)

Children
Pregnant women
African Americans
Asthmatics or those with upper respiratory tract problems
Cancer survivors
People from the Orange Beach area voiced their concerns about people in their community already getting sick. Families with sick children are moving out. Even pets are getting sick. Dr. Ott is appalled that these areas are not being recognized, but warns that the government will not order an evacuation until it is too late, so people need to protect themselves. She said that Orange Beach is indeed a problem area and that the oil is going right past all that fancy boom and getting into Perdido Pass.

Benzene air samples have been collected, and the Mobile/Baldwin county area is rising every day, and we are already way above the levels deemed to be safe. (Note from Jen: In 3 offshore, 6 near-shore, 1 beach sample, BENZENE levels exceed NIOSH safety level)

Dr. Ott sat in a meeting with Lisa Jackson, administrator for EPA. Dr. Ott quoted Jackson as saying, "I am walking a fine line between truth and hysteria, as we are trying not to create a panic."

Real estate concerns were addressed. Homes are going to be devalued, both in Mobile and Baldwin counties. Many people at the meeting have already put their houses on the market in hopes of avoiding the real estate crash. Dr. Ott warned that "devaluation of property" is not written into the law that holds oil companies responsible for damages, because devaluation is too subjective. She cited the example of those who held red herring permits prior to the Exxon Valdez. These permits were a much-valued commodity, costing $400,000 each. When the herring died, the permits became worthless. Yet, the courts took Exxon's side on this, citing that devaluation of property is a subjective matter, thus Exxon was not liable. She said to look and learn from Alaskans' experience. If only the herring fishermen had sold their permits for $100, they could have proven devaluation. But when you can't sell something, you cannot prove how much it has devalued. Her advice: Get creative. For instance, those who know that their home value will drop into the toilet, ask yourself, "How much do I like my neighbor's house?" In other words, sell each other your houses for a couple of thousand dollars. That way, devaluation is proved.

Respirators — Dr. Ott is furious that with everything we have learned about the long-term illness and deaths of the Exxon Valdez clean-up workers, that not only is BP not supplying respirators, but in a Louisiana parish, the local government bought respirators for the workers. BP then threatened to fire these workers if they wore them. Why? Because having workers wear respirators in some parts on the Coast, and not in others, provides a baseline for case studies.

She strongly suggests that each household provide themselves with respirators. "You keep a fire extinguisher in your house, don't you? Why wouldn't you have respirators in the event that the wind shifts and you're bombarded with poisonous air?" She stressed that especially during a hurricane, if the government doesn't demand evacuation, or any who choose to stay and ride out the storm, a respirator is a necessity or else you're just asking for chemical-induced poisoning.

Symptoms of chemical-induced poisoning: headaches, burning eyes, rash, cold, persistent/chronic cough, flu-like symptoms and cancer. She is appalled that the local governments have not closed the beaches. Granted, not many people are hanging around the beaches, but she reported one man who walked out into waist-deep water (I think she said it was at Pensacola) and came out with a red, blistery rash on his legs and had to seek medical treatment. Here again, she stressed that there is so much we don't know about this giant science experiment, that this man would not have been one she would have suspected to react so quickly and violently to the chemicals in the water, yet he did. She said that short-term exposure symptoms will usually dissipate if the person leaves the area and travels to a "clean" area. The people with children on the Gulf Coast, those who are experiencing symptoms should do that this summer — get the heck out of Dodge. Long-term exposure is a different animal, however. The toxins can attack the respiratory tract, and cause liver and kidney damage.

She is concerned about the methods of disposal. They're taking the oil to local land fills, where they will burn it off, thus filling the air with even more toxins. She urged us to take community action on this, as well as demand that our water sheds and public water supply be constantly monitored. The "Bucket Brigade" in Louisiana is a group that is actively taking air samples.

In essence her message to us was this: Democracy has been hi-jacked. Don't look to BP or the federal government for help. Look out for yourself and your families. And come together as a community. GET PRO-ACTIVE and come up with a plan to keep the community as safe as possible.

In closing, she told us how much she identified with our little coastal communities, that we have been devalued for the sake of big corporations. She recommended we watch the movie, "Black Wave".

NOTE FROM JEN: Our public officials are not being straight with us, and we know BP is not. They think that Southerners are ignorant, complacent and that we'll just "take it". It's time we came together and taught them a thing or two about Southerners. Every person along the Gulf coast is being slowly poisoned and no one is going to come to our aid. It's time We The People reminded the government of the words of Thomas Jefferson and once again create true liberty:

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

For some reason, at the end of this post, I can't get old Charlie Daniels out of my head. Do you remember why we went to war with England? Taxation and no representation. Look around, folks…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL-1T9g5-vU&feature=player_embedded

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Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on July 12, 2010, 08:19:12 PM
A little ice on the cap... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWOJTnHFD2k)

And more on what's happening to the people. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0zQjF81d84)
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on July 12, 2010, 08:57:49 PM
CNN is reporting that a new cap is in place-- lets pray it is working and mother nature gives the gulf a break on storms until next yr.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on July 12, 2010, 09:55:36 PM
I'd be more worried about the increased pressure to the other leaks they're not telling us about, and the whole thing blowing.  :detective:
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on July 12, 2010, 10:11:06 PM
Lets hope the stories re: other leaks are bogus.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on July 12, 2010, 11:16:38 PM
One can only wish all of the stories in this section of the forum were bogus, for that matter...

Ah, well... Perhaps the most ridiculous thing about human beings is that they very often overestimate their own powers. People can plan or intend to do whatever they like, but ultimately, just let God decide that enough is enough, and we'll see what happens to the plans of men.

I have a feeling Our Lord has plans of His own, and that His plans and the plans of men probably don't coincide. 19 million Rosaries (and counting, to be sure) cannot have gone unheard by heaven.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 15, 2010, 07:14:34 PM
MSNBC July 15, Matt Simmons still says BP Cover up
massive hole miles away, cap test is "absurd".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scl2dgK_-Nw
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Elizabeth on July 16, 2010, 08:36:16 AM
There is talk of some explosion in GOM at about 4 am today,

and a 3.7 earthquake happened in Washington, DC at about 5 am.  EQs are very, very rare in DC.

Our Lady of Mt. Carmel, pray for us.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on July 16, 2010, 12:42:26 PM
Here's the latest interview out there mentioning BP. The rest of the interview goes into all kinds of other things, but you can find the WHOLE interview (all parts of it) here. (http://www.youtube.com/user/AdmiralConservative#p/u) It's the "BP Oil Spill: Interview with A.C. Griffith" from 7/15.

Part One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZssI4dhZA8)

Oil capped?

"I don't believe any of it... The problem is... there was a blowout down there, and the pipe was blown up, and there is every reason to believe that the walls of the well going miles into the ground has been damaged... They've plugged the top which puts more pressure in the hole, which pumps more contaminants out the sides..."

Their next solution? Basically a nuke.
"It should not be used in this application... You're sitting on trillions of cubic feet of methane. Could you imagine what could happen?"

"I would think that any sort of explosion... would compromise the sea floor."
"Of course it would."
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on July 16, 2010, 01:20:05 PM
Ok, normally I try to separate out what is "probably true" from things that "maybe, possibly, on some microscopic chance MIIIIIIIIIGHT just be true, in theory." This is one of the latter. I'll say it up front, this is pretty much ALL conjecture and theory. But since I have heard other people mention it, here's about the best two cents I could come up with, if you really want to believe that something that happens in the gulf could POSSIBLY result in earthquake activity, and you want to know where to look. Again, this is just a THEORY about where to look, so take it or leave it.

This information is based on just about the only other thing I've even heard of, remotely related to this whole idea. And THAT was from a source that's waiting for the US to transform into Edgar Caycee's famous "map" (of post TSHTF US). So... in my opinion... about as "credible" as the rest of that stuff.

It was in an interview about the whole BP thing, and this guy was going on and on about stuff that was about that dubious, when he happened to mention either a fault line, or else a theoretical "path of least resistance" that goes from the gulf to the great lakes. HE was hypothesizing.... and this is SO dubious, I am embarrassed even to be repeating it... that this disaster would result in a seismic event that would cut through the US along that route, and empty the great lakes into the gulf. (Fulfilling the whole Edgar's map scenario on that side of the US.) I say bologna, until I have a LOT more reason to even remotely entertain the thought... BUT...

... if YOU want  to entertain thoughts along these lines (to each their own), this map below is the area (what I circled in red), as far as I can tell, that you'd want to watch for anything you could even remotely hypothesize had anything at all to do with what's going on down in the gulf.

This picture is from what I like to call "the earthquake site" ... it's a "dot gov" site, so it's probably pretty official. It's the USGS Earthquakes Hazard Program site.

I've taken this screen cap from the zoomed in US map on that site. The part I've circled in red is the part, as far as I understand it, that you'd want to be watching for anything that we could assume most reasonably to be POSSIBLY associated with the BP thing, and that based only on what I heard from that Edgar Caycee follower who happened to mention it. The only reason I remembered it is because it sounded about 2% plausible that any DISTURBANCE from down there, MIGHT really travel along such a course, if there's an existing fault or "path of least resistance" there. Otherwise I wouldn't give it virtually any credence at all.

What I can confirm is that there is a fault that runs up through the bottom of Illinois, which in this screen cap... where you can see that little red bugger (that little red box) ... that's a 2.6 magnitude earthquake, right around where I think that fault actually starts. Is there another fault below that that goes up to it? I don't know. I'm not that familiar with one. And if there's not, that's an awful lot of land to speculate about with nothing but theories and some "prophet's" map to go on.

AGAIN... This idea is really nothing more than conjecture and pure theory, but... the IDEA or THEORY is... if all heck broke loose down in the gulf, and something really major happened geologically speaking, up above it, it would (one would THINK) follow the course of least resistance... which some guy out there seems to think is this...

NOTE: By the way... for those who want to watch the Yellowstone super volcano for future reference, it's my understanding that they now know the magma chamber for that thing is actually well NORTH of where you'd be looking for activity on a map. On THIS map, you'll see two sets of yellow earthquake boxes (meaning they're older... recent is red)... not the lower of the two groups, but the higher of the two of those groups in the middle there, is up to the place where, based on another such source, you could theoretically say (and not be a stark-raving nut) that the activity MIGHT be related to Yellowstone. So according to this video I watched recently, both of those groups of quakes COULD, MAYBE/THEORETICALLY... have something remotely to do with it. But that's about as credible as this whole thing related to the BP thing, so... again, it's pretty much conjecture at this point. Only thing is, in this case, you can see this ridge of land is probably indeed connected (the mountains that run up through the US there), so... it's not TOTALLY insane to think maybe this could be true, IF... they're right about the magma chamber. But that's a big, unconfirmed IF.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: MyrnaM on July 16, 2010, 04:31:38 PM
Just heard on Fox News the cap was failing, then holding again,  typical news!  Whoes on first?

Dulcamara,   your advatar, is this the same one, you told be about, only different, the Japanese rice cakes.  
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on July 16, 2010, 06:48:58 PM
Nope... it's just a fuzzy little nothing I made up in photoshop. I actually have a whole set of them, and I even made them into computer icons. (The rice cake one was actually another computer icon I had made.) So I could have them all over my computer desktop if I wanted to.  :laugh1:

About the news... yeah, that figures. I'm sure we won't hear the truth about what goes on with it unless we go out digging for it.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 17, 2010, 09:40:04 PM


 
 

Gulf Seafloor Collapsing On 7-17 - Vids
7-17-10
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydghupdEoxY

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynige2ggKwg

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-Ybhct-90

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON0lDYUzcYU

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYVHemOhokk

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rvX71XBC6s

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHhxvupXtMM

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQVCf0te36g

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UY_Mq2yQHI

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4w3CEZfJBE

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev_IPueV9mI

 


Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on July 17, 2010, 09:46:19 PM
Only a few alternative media outlets are reporting this. Could it be a hoax?
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on July 17, 2010, 09:47:55 PM
Rense is also carrying a story that the Super Tanker cannot skim the oil because of the dispersants that are being used.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 17, 2010, 09:58:43 PM
Giant Oil Skimmer ' A Whale' deemed a bust for Gulf Oil
because of dispersants:

Article

Paul Rioux/Times-Picayune

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/07/giant_oil_skimmer_a_whale_deem.html
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 17, 2010, 11:10:27 PM
Because of the use of dispersants, most of the oil is
underwater. Only a small amount is on top of the
water. Even it is true that BP successfully turned off
the gusher. The damage to the gulf will take over
100 years to recover.
I agree with Matt Simmons that the real gusher is
miles away, and is still gushing toxic oil, with the
gases.
What we really saw was a Hollywood made event,
designed to fool gullible people whom believe  that
they are being told the truth by the mass media.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Elizabeth on July 18, 2010, 06:47:50 PM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

What we really saw was a Hollywood made event,
designed to fool gullible people whom believe  that
they are being told the truth by the mass media.


This is what I have been thinking for a long time, but I have no idea what the exact purpose of this would be.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on July 18, 2010, 07:18:44 PM
Perverted anti-christian people get a thrill out of scaring people. Having said that does not mean the situation is AOK.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 19, 2010, 09:47:28 PM
All future updates, go to www.rense.com. He has a feature
on the Gulf Oil that is constantly updated.
Already, there is a video on acid rain in Germany. That
means that the oil is already in the Atlantic Ocean.
I am on the opinion that the oil is still gushing, and that
it is a lie that the cap is working, because the real area
is some miles away.
Just because it is on TV, does not make it true.
I am tired of such terms as "Oil Spill", and "Oil Seep".
Such terms psychologically makes us believe that the
situation is not  as bad as it really is.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 23, 2010, 05:32:22 PM
Gov. Jindal of Louisiana declares State of Emergency, Oil
could enter Coastal Homes, Evacuation Orders Expected
Today.

Blog
http://ning.it/9vVzlQ

Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 25, 2010, 08:00:14 AM
MORE EVIDENCE THAT BP CHEMICALS ARE HARMFUL, AND CAN KILL HUMANS:

VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9P57WIMh7g
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 25, 2010, 10:13:44 PM
DR REA(CEO OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH CENTER,
DALLAS,TX)  On Toxicity of the Gulf Disaster.

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC4AiZVXJ1o
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 25, 2010, 10:20:24 PM
EPA Senior Analyst Says Federal Government Covering
Up Lethality of Corexit:

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs8ZebJG_1g
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 25, 2010, 11:21:14 PM
EXPERTS: HEALTH HAZARDS IN THE GULF:

ARTICLE

http://www.truth-out.org/toxic-dispersants-causing-widespread-illness61604
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 29, 2010, 08:50:00 AM
Oil Rain in Houston, Texas

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-MkUMOCCb8
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 29, 2010, 09:48:53 AM
Toxic Rain in Fort Worth, Texas:

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxf1cJEloSM
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on July 29, 2010, 02:24:31 PM
I am about 60 miles north of Houston, and I see the
same leaf damage in my area. My Brother has a
small tomato, and strawberry garden, and they
are now all bad.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: gladius_veritatis on July 29, 2010, 03:01:00 PM
Such 'on the ground', practical reports are good to have...although that one is clearly bad news...God be with those most directly affected.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on August 01, 2010, 12:51:53 PM
BREAKING NEWS!  IT'S A LIE:

VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvjTBT67GAE
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on August 03, 2010, 06:08:24 PM
An Autopsy of the BP Gulf Oil Well at the Macondo Project:

Article

http://phoenixrisingfromthegulf.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/an-autopsy-of-the-bp-gulf-oil-well-at-the-macondo-prospect/
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on August 05, 2010, 09:57:28 PM
Gulf Oil Covering 12,000 square miles.

Satellite Photos.

Article & Video

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/07/31/feds-cant-find-oil-but-satellite-photos-show-bp-gulf-oil-spill-covering-12000-square-miles/
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on August 06, 2010, 08:36:01 AM
Is Matt Simmons Correct?  BP Lied about capping the well!

Videos

http://www.rense.com/general91/sid.htm
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Caminus on August 06, 2010, 08:23:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaf998FwQVI&feature=player_embedded
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: gladius_veritatis on August 07, 2010, 12:58:24 AM
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but it appears the Gulf loop current and the Gulf stream are being notably affected -- which is NOT good.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on August 09, 2010, 08:44:38 AM
This site has gotten more than it's share of views.
Thanks you all.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on August 09, 2010, 01:56:21 PM
Matt Simmons is dead. hmmmm

http://www.wlbz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=123586&catid=3
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on August 10, 2010, 01:03:39 AM
Quote from: roscoe
Matt Simmons is dead. hmmmm

http://www.wlbz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=123586&catid=3


That is what happens when you tell the Truth.  
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on August 10, 2010, 06:38:35 PM
RIP Matt Simmons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5N8i2yppsQ
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on August 21, 2010, 10:56:48 AM
If you are still interested in the true situation in what
really happening in the Gulf. Check out the 8/20/2010
article on the Gulf by Thomas A. Droleskey of
www.christorchaos. com.
The title of the article is "Oil's not well (or gone!)
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: gladius_veritatis on August 21, 2010, 02:17:23 PM
I am not going to put the entire article within this thread, but here is the link to the article mentioned above:

http://www.christorchaos.com/OilsNotWellorGone.htm
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on September 02, 2010, 06:29:16 PM
Gulf Loop Current Dead, Gulf Stream Dying-Pictures:

http://www.rense.com/MexicoAlreadyDead.html
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Elizabeth on September 02, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
thanks for all of the links
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Matthew on September 03, 2010, 01:24:07 AM
Gulf Stream And North Atlantic Current Dying
- Gulf of Mexico Loop Current Already Dead


Extreme Heat/Drought In Russia, Flooding In Asia,
Killing Cold in South America All Connected To BP Oil Disaster

By The Earl of Stirling
9-2-10


Our planet is experiencing a real life version of the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" right now. Record breaking heat (up to 39-40C or 100-104F in Moscow) and drought in Russia, heat and flooding in large parts of Asia (China, Pakistan, etc.), and killing cold temperatures in South America are all reflective of a rapidly changing global weather pattern that is caused by dramatic changes in the Gulf Stream and the North Atlantic Current (also called the North Atlantic Drift) and the Norway Current/etc. brought on by the large amounts of oil discharged into the Gulf of Mexico by the BP Oil Disaster.
An Italian theoretical physicist,yowusa.com/34E6E6DF.jpg Dr. Gianluigi Zangari, of the prestigious Research Division of the National Institute of Nuclear Physics at Frascati National Laboratories (LNF) of the National Institute of Nuclear Physics (INFN) in Italy, has come up with some startling scientific findings. Dr. Zangari has specialized in global climate research and analysis. He has found that the massive amount of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, from the BP Oil Disaster, has caused a disruption of the Loop Current in the Gulf. And further, that this has resulted in a dramatic weakening in the vorticity of the Gulf Stream and North Atlantic Current, and a reduction in North Atlantic water temperatures of 10C.

It is a university level physics experiment to use a tub of cool water and inject a colored stream of warm water into it. You can see the boundary layers of the warm water stream. If you add oil to the tub it breaks down the boundary layers of the warm water stream and effectively destroys the current vorticity . This is what is happening in the Gulf of Mexico and in the Atlantic Ocean.
The entire 'river of warm water' that flows from the Caribbean to the edges of Western Europe is dying due to the Corexit that the Obama Administration allowed BP to use to hide the scale of the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Disaster. The approximately two million gallons of Corexit, plus several million gallons of other dispersants, have caused the over two hundred million gallons of crude oil, that has gushed for months from the BP wellhead and nearby sites, to mostly sink to the bottom of the ocean. This has helped to effectively hide much of the oil, with the hopes that BP can seriously reduce the mandated federal fines from the oil disaster. However, there is no current way to effectively 'clean up' the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, which is about half covered in crude oil. Additionally, the oil has flowed up the East Coast of America and into the North Atlantic Ocean, and there is no way to effectively clean up this 'sea bottom oil'.
This massive amount of crude oil, covering such an enormous area, has seriously affected the Loop Current, the Gulf Stream, and the North Atlantic Current system, by breaking up the boundary layers of the warm water flow.

There are several names to the themoregulation 'river of warm water' that keeps the Northern Hemisphere from going into a new Ice Age. The first section is named the  "Loop Current" and it begins in the Caribbean, flows around the Yucatan Peninsula and goes into the Gulf of Mexico, then loops around the Gulf and exits on the east side and runs between Cuba and Florida. At this point the current is called the  "Florida Current" and it flows from the Keys up the East Coast of America (Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and part of North Carolina) to the Outer Banks. At the Outer Banks the current heads east into the North Atlantic where it is known as the  "Gulf Stream". Eventually the Gulf Stream becomes the  North Atlantic Current, which itself eventually becomes the Norway Current and the Canary Current. The reason that this system has several names, and not one, is historical. It was not all discovered at the same time and the flow was not fully known or understood for years. Ben Franklin, one of my favorite American 'founding fathers' is the person that named one section of this system the "Gulf Stream" in the 1760s. It should be noted that this 'river of warm water' does not begin with the Loop Current, it is part of a much larger system that includes the Atlantic South Equatorial Current which flows north along the coast of Brazil (the North Brazil Current), and becomes the Caribbean Current, and is renamed the Yucatan Current as it flows north into the Yucatan Channel. This entire system is one of the main global themoregulation processes that regulates the planet's temperatures.

Based on what has already happened (to the Loop Current and the Gulf Stream/North Atlantic Current/etc. and global weather patterns), and what is continuing to happen, we can project increased global climate changes that are both serious and near in terms of time. We may be entering a full new Ice Age.

There is no known way to clean up the massive amount of free crude oil, stripped of its lighter elements by dispersants, now on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico and in significant parts of the Atlantic Ocean (where the Gulf Stream flows). The use of Corexit and other dispersants by BP, with the full cooperation of the Obama Administration has created the most significant danger to the entire planet in recorded history. This is what happens when a great nation slips into being a Third World type of nation, where money alone is the key driving force in government actions.

As full knowledge of the scope of the oncoming mega-disaster to the planet becomes known, the Obama Administration will find itself in a political crisis way beyond Watergate (that cost Nixon his presidency) or the sex affair that almost cost Clinton his presidency. The effect on this years mid-term Congressional elections are apt to be dramatic.

Stirling

The thermohaline circulation is sometimes called the ocean conveyor belt, the great ocean conveyor, or the global conveyor belt.
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upload.wikimedia./317CB716.jpg This is the Florida Current and Gulf Stream in a heat image.

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The above and below images show how the Loop Current normally works.
upload.wikimedia./69D4A4DB.jpg Hurricane Katrina encountering the Gulf Loop Current and Eddy Vortex.
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Temperature Comparison - August 2, 2009 / August2,2010 (Article Updated on August 2, 2010)


Temperature Comparison - July 20, 2009 / July 29, 2010

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    Acknowledgments: Frascati National Laboratories, NOAA and Rutgers University. Analysis by Dr. Gianluigi Zangari (Frascati Labs), July 29, 2010.


    From Dr. Zangari:
    The Gulf Stream importance in the global climate themoregulation processes is well assessed. The latest real time satellite (Jason, Topex/Poseidon, Geosat Follow-On, ERS-2, Envisat) data maps of May-June 2010 processed by CCAR (Dolorado Center for Astrodynamics Research), checked at Frascati Laboratories by the means of the SHT congruent calculus and compared with past years data, show for the first time a direct evidence of the rapid breaking of the Loop Current, a warm ocean current, crucial part of the Gulf Stream. As displayed by both by the sea surface maps and the sea surface height maps, the Loop Current broke down for the first time around May 18th and generated a clock wise eddy, which is still active. As of today the situation has deteriorated up to the point in which the eddy has detached itself completely from the main stream therefore destroying completely the Loop Current.
    Since comparative analysis with past satellite data until May 2010 didn't show relevant anomalies, it might be therefore plausible to correlate the breaking of the Loop Current with the biochemical and physical action of the BP Oil Spill on the Gulf Stream.
    It is reasonable to foresee the threat that the breaking of a crucial warm stream as the Loop Current may generate a chain reaction of unpredictable critical phenomena and instabilities due to strong non linearities which may have serious consequences on the dynamics of the Gulf Stream thermoregulation activity of the Global Climate.



    The Gulf Stream leaves its signature over seven miles high ~ link ~ The Gulf Stream's impact on climate is well known, keeping Iceland and Scotland comfortable in winter compared to the deep-freeze of Labrador at the same latitude. That cyclones tend to spawn over the Gulf Stream has also been known for some time. A new study reveals that the Gulf Stream anchors a precipitation band with upward motions and cloud formations that can reach 7 miles high and penetrate the upper troposphere. The discovery, announced by a Japan-US team of scientists, shows that the Gulf Stream has a pathway by which to directly affect weather and climate patterns over the whole Northern Hemisphere, and perhaps even world wide.
    Xie has been curious for some time about the response of the atmosphere to warm currents flowing within cold ocean water, such as the Gulf Stream or its Pacific counterpart, the Kuroshio. Xie says, "It has been a challenging task to isolate the climatic influence of the Gulf Stream from energetic weather variations by using conventional observations, which are spatially and temporally sporadic. Our findings were only possible because of the availability of high-resolution satellite data, an operational weather analysis, and an atmospheric circulation model."
    The first hint that these warm ocean currents have a significant effect on the atmosphere came from high-resolution NASA satellite data. These images show a narrow rain band hovering frequently over the warm flank of the currents; wind accelerates and converges over the warm flank and diverges and decelerates on the cold flank.
    The findings from the operational weather analysis pointed to the warm flank of the Gulf Stream as the cause of the strong upward winds. "We wanted more evidence, though," says team member Akira Kuwano-Yoshida of the Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology (JAMSTEC), "and turned to the high-resolution Atmospheric Model for the Earth Simulator (AGCM) at JAMSTEC. We drove the model first with the actual Gulf Stream temperatures. The model successfully captured the rain band and the signature in the upper troposphere. Then we removed the sharp sea surface gradient from the Gulf Stream front by smoothing the temperature in the model. The narrow rain band disappeared."
    Finally, the team used outgoing longwave radiation satellite data to measure the cloud top temperatures. The narrow cloud band, associated with lightning, extends 7 miles high above the Gulf Stream meanders and has temperatures below freezing. All this is further evidence that the Gulf Stream influence on the atmosphere extends far above the lower atmosphere.
    The Gulf Stream's strength has changed markedly in the past as Earth has switched between warm periods and ice ages. Closely linked to these changes have been climate changes around the globe-not only in the Atlantic, but also in the Pacific and even in the Southern Hemisphere. Scientists have been puzzled at how the changes in the Atlantic thermohaline circulation (the conveyor belt) lead to climate anomalies in other regions in the Northern Hemisphere. The new study discovers a direct pathway, the Gulf Stream's deep heating of the atmosphere. This heating generates planetary waves that can induce quite rapid changes in Earth's atmospheric circulation and alter climate over Europe and beyond by riding on the westerly jet stream in the upper troposphere.
    Journal reference: Minobe, S., A. Kuwano-Yoshida, N. Komori, S.-P. Xie, and R.J. Small, 2008: Influence of the Gulf Stream on the troposphere. Nature. March 13, 2008.

    cuмulonimbus storm cloud forming over the warm Gulf Stream along the Norwegian coast. The system is sometimes called a polar low.
    A Climate-Change Amplifying Mechanism
    ScienceDaily (Mar. 8, 2007) - During the past ninety thousand years there were alternating hot and cold periods lasting several thousand years each which resulted in a modification of global oceanic circulation. With the help of paleoclimatic and paleooceanographic indicators, scientists at CEREGE1 have highlighted a feedback mechanism of ocean circulation on the climate which reinforces this heating or cooling. This mechanism relies on a close link between the circulation of the North Atlantic and the tropical hydrology of Central America. This study, published in the February 22, 2007 edition of the review Nature, should allow us to better understand and therefore better predict the effects of climate change on oceanic circulation.
    In the past, major and rapid climatic variations which took place notably during the last glacial period (Heinrich period) disturbed ocean circulation. Climatic archives (marine and lake sediment, polar ice, stalagmites) show the close relationship existing between climatic variations and oceanic circulation. Changes in oceanic circulation in the North Atlantic have influence on a planetary level by affecting, in particular, the water cycle. These changes are accompanied by a shift in the climatic equator which separates the trade wind systems of the two hemispheres: southwards during cold events and northwards during hot ones.
    Central America, a narrow continental strip which separates the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, plays a key role in this system. On the Atlantic side surface waters evaporate, which increases salinity. The water vapour is transferred by the trade winds to the Pacific where it is deposited as rain, thus lowering salinity there. This enormous transfer of water (several hundred thousand cubic meters per second) maintains a contrast in salinity between the two oceans. The surface waters of the tropical Atlantic are then transported, via the Gulf Stream, towards the high latitudes where they warm the atmosphere before plunging into the abysses in the convection zones situated in the seas of Norway, Greenland and Labrador. The deep waters formed by this process then flow into the world ocean, purging the North Atlantic of part of its excess salt. ~ link to this article



    Ice melt during July was the slowest in the JAXA record.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: roscoe on September 04, 2010, 05:59:24 PM
The following is a good link on the catastophy. It seems as if Rense is not posting the stories from this site like he has been.  http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com  
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on September 06, 2010, 12:50:00 AM
A Video that BP does not want you to see,

The Gulf Stream to the Bloodstream:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6drasiXNFaw
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Matthew on September 13, 2010, 11:36:19 AM
Oil from BP Spill Pooled on Bottom; Found as Far as 70 Miles from Site; Only Bacteria Seen Alive in Samples
September 13th, 2010

Via: ABC News:

Oil from the BP spill has not been completely cleared, but miles of it is sitting at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, according to a study currently under way.

Professor Samantha Joye of the Department of Marine Sciences at the University of Georgia, who is conducting a study on a research vessel just two miles from the spill zone, said the oil has not disappeared, but is on the sea floor in a layer of scuм.

“We’re finding it everywhere that we’ve looked. The oil is not gone,” Joye said. “It’s in places where nobody has looked for it.”

All 13 of the core samples Joye and her UGA team have collected from the bottom of the gulf are showing oil from the spill, she said.

In an interview with ABC News from her vessel, Joye said the oil cannot be natural seepage into the gulf, because the cores they’ve tested are showing oil only at the top. With natural seepage, the oil would spread from the top to the bottom of the core, she said.

“It looks like you just took a strip of very sticky material and just passed it through the water column and all the stuff from the water column got stuck to it, and got transported to the bottom,” Joye said. “I know what a natural seep looks like — this is not natural seepage.”

In some areas the oily material that Joye describes is more than two inches thick. Her team found the material as far as 70 miles away from BP’s well.

“If we’re seeing two and half inches of oil 16 miles away, God knows what we’ll see close in — I really can’t even guess other than to say it’s going to be a whole lot more than two and a half inches,” Joye said.

This oil remaining underwater has large implications for the state of sea life at the bottom of the gulf.

Joye said she spent hours studying the core samples and was unable to find anything other than bacteria and microorganisms living within.

“There is nothing living in these cores other than bacteria,” she said. “I’ve yet to see a living shrimp, a living worm, nothing.”

Studies conducted by the University of Georgia and the University of South Florida caused controversy back in August when they found that almost 80 percent of the oil that leaked from BP’s well is still out in the waters of the Gulf.

Their report stood in stark contrast to that of the federal government, which on Aug. 4 declared that 74 percent of the oil was gone, having broken down or been cleaned up.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Dulcamara on September 14, 2010, 12:53:44 AM
Check out Project Gulf Impact on youtube or the web for details.
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on September 21, 2010, 01:19:37 PM
Gulf Disaster may be a 'World Killing Event'.

Article:


http://www.helium.com/items/1882339-doomsday-how-bp-gulf-disaster-may-have-triggered-a-world-killing-event
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: Matthew on September 23, 2010, 01:14:18 AM
Gulf Oil Stories
September 22nd, 2010

Here are a few stories near the top of Florida Oil Spill Law right now. They just go on, and on and on:

“Entire food web at risk” say researchers just back from Gulf: OIL “may be HIDDEN in LARGE MARINE MAMMALS” — “Discolored” zooplankton found

Gulf Biologist: “Stunned” if oil product isn’t washing up for at least 20 years (VIDEO)

Gulf researchers discover SIX INCHES of “oily snow” on seafloor

Eat it Gulf Coast: BP says “It’s SAFE for YOUR KIDS to get SAND in their MOUTH” from beaches near where EXPLOSIVE sample was collected (VIDEO)

Snorkeler encounters submerged oil just offshore — “Proof oil is buried” just off coast (VIDEO)

State officials did NO TESTING on any dead fish from the FOUR major kills near oil-impacted areas — Because they “didn’t see any oil related pollution” (VIDEO)

FDA collected only ONE shrimp sample while trawling offshore Louisiana — For the entire month of July (VIDEO)

Scientists find “areas in the water column where there is NO OXYGEN” (VIDEO)

“50,000 workers and others exposed during the 2010 Deepwater Horizon spill” — “Leukemia, multiple myeloma, and melanoma are of particular interest”
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on October 10, 2010, 12:52:27 PM
Here is an another current video on the situation in the
Gulf of  Mexico.  It is a real shocker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0qop9xbGv4
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on October 19, 2010, 08:25:27 AM
MANY LARGE FISH WASHING ASHORE ON THE LOUISIANA
SHORELINE:

VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYjlrZgCzsE
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on October 27, 2010, 10:10:05 AM
Gulf Residents sick over the effects of the oil gusher:

UPDATE

http://bpoilslick.blogspot.com/2010/10/gulf-coast-are-sick-from-effects-of-oil.html
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on October 29, 2010, 11:46:09 AM
Riki Ott: "People now dropping dead" in the Gulf:

Article & Video

http://www.activistpost.com/2010/10/riki-ott-people-now-dropping-dead-in.html
Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on October 30, 2010, 08:25:47 AM
Yahoo! Mail
[ghosttroop] Update on the Gulf Region
Friday, October 29, 2010 11:35 PM
From:
"Anita Stewart" <anitamstewart@yahoo.com>
To:
"Anita Stewart" <anitastewart@gmail.com>, anitasoilandwater@gmail.com
 

Source: http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1018
By Michael Edward
Gulf of Mexico coastal residents are civilian casualties of a chemical and biological warfare. We have most of the same toxins in our blood and we share the same symptoms experienced by soldiers who survived and died after exposure to debilitating and deadly chemicals in the European trenches of WWI.
While the rest of the world has been deliberately kept in the dark, the Gulf of Mexico has become a chemical and biological battleground. Our shorelines and coastal areas are now the front lines of this deadly war that will bring an onslaught of casualties during the next decade and beyond. We are all entrenched in a war for our survival and the survival of our families for generations to come.
While the Gulf Blue Plague continues to affect more and more of us each day, our State and Federal governments ignore us, lie to us, and call us everything from mentally ill to conspiracy theorists. Common sense dictates that the only conspiracy evolves from those who deliberately cover-up the truth of what is taking place in the Gulf. The facts dictate that the chemical and biological war taking place here is surely no theory. One can only conclude that the true conspiracy theorists are those who are deliberately concealing the truth...
***NOTE FROM ANITA:
There are several links here that need to be read and studied by anyone living in the Gulf Region, especially if you plan to stay here for any length of time. And for those of you that doubt that anything is happening here, whether you live in the Gulf Region or not, instead of debunking and calling the victims that live here conspiracy theorists, please read on...
http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1031
http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=940
http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1009
http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1022
http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1018
 
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Title: Oil Volcano Pressure too Strong for Containment
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on January 22, 2011, 09:45:57 PM
Gulf Oil Spill now on the beaches of Galveston, Texas:

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/dead-dolphins-sea-turtles-and-tons-of-angelfish-in-galveston-texas-video