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Messed up "derivatives" trading
« on: November 18, 2006, 10:26:47 PM »
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  • Derivatives Trading Soars to $370 Trillion, BIS Says


    How far away are we from reality? Don't worry about it, because the numbers don't mean anything anymore. HA!

    This derivatives game is like trying to build a skyscraper out of playing cards. As long as the wind doesn't blow, and the ground doesn't move and you have a very steady hand, maybe that makes sense. Or, not so much:

    The use of derivatives grew at the fastest pace in eight years during the first half of 2006, boosting earnings at securities firms and reducing costs for investors.

    The face value of derivatives based on corporate bonds, currencies, interest rates, commodities and stocks jumped 24 percent to $370 trillion, according to the Bank for International Settlements. It was the biggest percentage rise since the bank began keeping records in 1998.

    Trading in credit-default swaps, the fastest-growing derivatives market, helped spur record earnings for banks including New York-based Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. At London-based Barclays Capital derivatives accounted for more than 60 percent of revenue and profit, Chief Executive Officer Bob Diamond said in May.
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    « Reply #1 on: November 18, 2006, 10:27:36 PM »
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  • With stuff like this -- so far removed from reality and anything anyone can understand -- how can one deny that "something's gotta give"?

    We're in for a historic crash, no doubt about it.

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    « Reply #2 on: November 19, 2006, 01:30:06 PM »
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  • When?
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    « Reply #3 on: November 19, 2006, 02:02:35 PM »
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  • Thursday at 11:11 AM GMT.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 19, 2006, 02:27:45 PM »
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  • LOL, seriously, when do they estimate a crash?  A couple years from now?  Next summer?  A half dozen months?

    Is there an estimate?
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    « Reply #5 on: November 19, 2006, 03:23:36 PM »
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  • Well, since we don't know what the bankers have planned for the world...

    ...it's much easier to see the evidence and say "this is messed up...what goes up must come down!" than it is to predict a date.

    Just like we can say with CERTAINTY that the official 9/11 story was bogus -- but none of us can say with certainty who DID the attack, especially in the details.

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