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Offline Emerentiana

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KGB defector interview
« on: March 11, 2013, 04:33:51 PM »
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  • This is an interview with a KGB defecter.  His name is Yuri Bezmenov.
    He explains the  propaganda machine and the stages of takeover in a country.
    How close are we?





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    « Reply #1 on: March 13, 2013, 09:43:50 AM »
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  • Everything the soviets wished to accomplish have been. Only God and his miraculous power can save our nation. I actually read an article that had the entire list of what the soviets wished to accomplish and the author of the article wrote next to each bullet when and how each goal had been accomplished in America. I wish I still had that article.


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    « Reply #2 on: May 03, 2013, 05:13:37 PM »
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  • Quote from: sedetrad
    Everything the soviets wished to accomplish have been. Only God and his miraculous power can save our nation. I actually read an article that had the entire list of what the soviets wished to accomplish and the author of the article wrote next to each bullet when and how each goal had been accomplished in America. I wish I still had that article.


    Call me a pessimist or more accurately a realist but, I don't believe God is going to save America or the rest of the world for that matter.  I strongly believe that because man {or at least the greater majority of them} has forgotten God and preferred to follow his own selfish will, God has withdrawn a lot of His grace and is permitting us to suffer the consequences of our folly.  I think there are a couple of reasons why God is allowing this.  First, because His infinite goodness has been so outraged by our sinfulness that His justice demands it.  Secondly, as a means to draw as many souls as possible to true repentance and conversion so that they can enjoy eternal life with Him.  Many will be purified through suffering and the good will gain even more merit before God.

    The really sad thing about all of this is that it could all have been avoided if only man had heeded Our Lady's advice at Fatima.  Unfortunately we didn't and now we are going to suffer the consequences.  

    I've posted this link before on this forum.  It's the 45 goals of communism that were entered into the congressional record in 1963.

    http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus

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    « Reply #3 on: May 03, 2013, 05:37:19 PM »
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  • Let's keep-up our "Hope" and try to hang-on for say... three more years?

    The Triumph of Our Lady's Immaculate Heart will appear when it seems the darkest.

    This is some recent advise to me from good Catholic friends.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #4 on: May 03, 2013, 08:25:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous
    Let's keep-up our "Hope" and try to hang-on for say... three more years?

    The Triumph of Our Lady's Immaculate Heart will appear when it seems the darkest.

    This is some recent advise to me from good Catholic friends.


    Yes we must never lose hope.  God will protect His people and bring us safely to heaven but only after many trials and much suffering.  However, my point is that since the vast bulk of mankind did not better himself and sin has reached such a peak, a chastisement is no longer avoidable.  I know that Sr. Lucia and others have said the same.  We can still offer up sacrifices and prayers in order to mitigate some of the sufferings but, the chastisement will happen regardless.  Sr. Lucia further stated that there would be a brief triumph of communism throughout the entire world.  This is part of the chastisement IMO.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto

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    1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

    2.  A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    3.  Abolition of all right of inheritance.

    4.  Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    5.  Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    6.  Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

    7.  Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    8.  Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    9.  Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.

    10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production.



    In this video the 10 planks of communism are discussed.  Communism has been the goal of the elites all along and the central banks are one of the means of achieving this end.  

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/g45KiKCmsg8[/youtube]
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    « Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 11:55:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous
    Let's keep-up our "Hope" and try to hang-on for say... three more years?

    The Triumph of Our Lady's Immaculate Heart will appear when it seems the darkest.

    This is some recent advise to me from good Catholic friends.


    "The Bish" has stated this also.  I trust his discernment.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 06, 2013, 08:06:31 PM »
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  • Why 3 years?  

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    « Reply #7 on: May 07, 2013, 03:58:37 AM »
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  • Transcript of the interview for those who don't wish to compromise their privacy by watching Youtube: http://uselessdissident.blogspot.ru/2008/11/interview-with-yuri-bezmenov.html



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    « Reply #8 on: May 07, 2013, 06:27:57 AM »
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  • This defector said nothing new, so he is a bit suspicious from that point of view, but there are some good points made. My comments below however give the reason for my suspicions.

    Referring to idealistic leftists:

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    Griffin: But to eliminate the others, to execute the others? Don’t they serve some purpose; wouldn’t they be the ones you rely on?

    Bezmenov: No. They serve [a] purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in [the] United States: all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion only to destabilize a nation. When their job is completed, they are not needed any more. They know too much. Some of them, when they get disillusioned, when they see that Marxist-Leninists come to power—obviously they get offended—they think that they will come to power. That will never happen, of course. They will be lined up against the wall and shot.

    But they may turn into the most bitter enemies of Marxist-Leninists when they come to power. And that’s what happened in Nicaragua. You remember most of these former Marxist-Leninists were either put [in] prison, or one of them split and now he is working against [the] Sandinistas. It happened in Grenada, when Maurice Bishop was—he was already a Marxist—he was executed by a new Marxist, who was more Marxist than this Marxist.


    This technique is used by all powers, not just Russia. Consider where this might lead in your neighborhood. Also consider information like this itself as a form of terrorism, to influence the reader in some way to live in timid fear. In other words, invert the meaning of everything you read, and consider if that could instead be true. This provides some measure of objectivity.

    The collapse of the Soviet Union was no accident, it was very carefully planned. Russia is currently playing the role of underdog, but it is poised to win (with China)  financially, politically and militarily against the West. Russia also purports to have found religion once again, and is poised to win there also, but ten minutes without the rose colored glasses will tell you that this is no genuine spiritual awakening. The Russian Orthodox Church is hopelessly compromised after fifty years of state infiltration.

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    Because I like... as I said, I am now in your boat. If we sink together, we will sink beautifully together. There is no other place on this planet to defect to.


    Not entirely true, but true enough.