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Get involved with Bitcoin
« on: May 25, 2013, 11:17:53 PM »
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  • Bitcoin made the news again:

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/23/technology/enterprise/bitcoin-supercomputers/index.html

    I think it's a great new currency. I've known about it since 2011, and as a business owner I think it's fantastic. Imagine no more 3% tithe to Visa and Mastercard on every order!

    And no more bogus Paypal reversals and credit card "chargebacks". Bitcoin is like cash, un-reversable. Or, should I say, cash that is much harder to counterfeit than US Dollars (In fact, no one has yet been able to create a fake Bitcoin. It would take 50 of the world's #2 most powerful supercomputer to even attempt that task!)

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    At any given moment, Bitcoin's peer-to-peer network contains thousands of computers linked together to generate more than 1,000 petaflops of raw computing power. To put that in perspective, the world's fastest supercomputer, Titan, runs at less than 18 petaflops. The Bitcoin network is sucking down nearly $200,000 a day in electricity costs, according to one tracking site's estimate.

    And it's an International currency -- you can send them to a person in any country in the world (with an Internet connection). With almost no fee! Imagine that. Usually it costs $20 or $30 to wire money overseas. That's why Bitcoin is very popular in Europe and other places where people do a lot of international transfers.
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    « Reply #2 on: May 26, 2013, 12:53:04 AM »
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  • bitcoin depends on the internet, and the government controls the internet.

    I wouldn't count on it being tolerated much longer.

    It might survive.  The risk of it not surviving seems high to me.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 26, 2013, 02:15:30 AM »
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  • It may be convenient for business to business transactions but as an individual I think that if I can't hold it and lock it up it is not really mine.  I would be cautious about any digital currency because I believe there is always someone smarter out there who will figure out a way to compromise anything on the internet.

    Guess I'm just old-fashioned  :smile:

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    « Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 04:16:57 AM »
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  • None of the companies I invoice use it, so it could not use it.

    None of the companies or individuals I buy stuff from use it either.

    Until they do I will use the liquid currencies they use.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 02, 2013, 01:34:16 PM »
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  • When Is The Government Going To Shut Down Bitcoin?

    Do you actually believe that the central banks of the world are going to sit back and do nothing while their monopoly over money creation is being threatened?  Do you actually believe that the governments of the world are going to allow a digital currency that they have no control over to become “the future of money”?  If so, then you are incredibly naive.  Wars have been started over much less.  The global elite are very, very sensitive when it comes to the creation of money, and Bitcoin has definitely gotten their attention.  Yes, there have always been alternative currencies created by local communities, but none of those has ever been a real threat to the central banks of the world.  The truth is that Bitcoin is different.  It has the potential to really be something, and I expect a serious move to be made against Bitcoin before it explodes in popularity.  If Bitcoin was solely a domestic currency, the U.S. government would have already shut it down long ago.  The fact that it is a decentralized international currency makes things trickier, but without a doubt right now officials are thinking of ways to restrict the use of Bitcoin or shut it down altogether.  Bitcoin is already being portrayed as a currency that attracts criminals involved in such things as tax evasion, drug dealing, gambling, terrorism and money laundering.  In fact, the Wall Street Journal recently reported that the Treasury Department has ruled that money laundering rules will be applied to Bitcoin.  But this is just the beginning.

    At some point, the establishment will bring out the big guns.  It is only a matter of time.  And there are already some major banks that are shutting down the accounts of Bitcoin dealers.  Just check out what is happening up in Canada…

    Virtex, based in Calgary, is an online market that matches Bitcoin buyers with sellers, with about $13-million of trades under its belt.

    But earlier this month Royal Bank of Canada quietly informed Mr. David that it would no longer do business with his company.

    “They shut down our account without any reason,” said Mr. David, an ebullient entrepreneur with a background in technology companies. “They just said we have the right to refuse service to whomever we wish.”

    For whatever reason, many in Canada’s small but fast growing Bitcoin community are suddenly dealing with the same problem: The banks have decided they don’t like the cryptocurrency and they’re shutting down some of the accounts of businesses that deal in it.

    An isolated incident?

    Perhaps.

    But many of those that are closely associated with Bitcoin know that they are being closely monitored.  They know that bankers and government officials are watching them.  Just check out what Jeff Berwick of The Dollar Vigilante recently had to say…

    If there is one thing that my involvement with BitcoinATM has shown me very plainly in the last month is that bitcoin has the direct attention of the governments, central banks and banks.  It took them nearly two decades to figure out the internet would be their downfall.  In this case, it has only taken them months to realize that bitcoin could end their monopoly on money and banking.

    And they aren’t watching because they like what they see.

    Rather, they are watching because they see a threat that needs to be stamped out.

    Robert Wenzel of the Economic Policy Journal recently suggested how they will attempt to do this…

    I continue to believe that the point of vulnerability for Bitcoin remains the point of exchange between bitcoins and other currencies. I fully expect government to make a massive shutdown of these exchanges at some point.

    And I agree with him.  I believe that a day will come when those exchanges will be shut down.  The powers that be just have to figure out how to sell it to the public.

    Read the rest of this article if interested
    http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/when-is-the-government-going-to-shut-down-bitcoin
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    « Reply #7 on: June 06, 2013, 02:17:22 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    Bitcoin is like cash, un-reversable.

    Yes, indeed.
    But it's even better than cash in one aspect: it's not inflate-able due to the technically hard limited amount of possible Bitcoins.

    And so the money masters really have to dislike it because they depend on the possibility to always inflate their fake "fiat" paper money, in order to get rich at the expense of the poor people working for that "fiat" money.


    P.S. Isn't it ironical that Bitcoin has been invented by some, if I remember correctly, rather communistic programmer?


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    « Reply #8 on: June 06, 2013, 02:25:10 AM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    bitcoin depends on the internet, and the government controls the internet.

    Aren't rather the governments, i.e. plural, controlling the Internet, because it's rather international? And the big governments don't like each other. That sometimes is helpful.

    I may be wrong, but I think the only way for one government to totally control its nationwide Internet is to switch it off nationwide. Whilst that is possible at any time, it also means that the nation's economy, finance system etc, will be hit very hard, if not disabled, and isn't economics one of the false gods?

    Well, in China, Iran and Syria we see a nationwide technical censoring of the Internet today (in Western countries there's massive censoring, too, of course, it's just not made that public).
    But is this already a total control of the nationwide Internet in these countries, or "just" some control, of for example TOR and the like?

    I think such technical censoring can be circuмvented sooner or later.
    But maybe some Internet expert could explain.

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    I wouldn't count on it being tolerated much longer.

    Since it attacks the FED monopoly. The last US president who tried to remove this private monopoly owned by the "elder brothers", was the famous and only Catholic US president who's been put to Arlington National Cemetery by the money masters.

    Still, we'll have to see if "they" succeed in terminating Bitcoins, too. I doubt it. See Mr. Kim Schmitz aka "Dotcom". Although totally different examples, he used a central approach, and in contrast to this Bitcoins is decentralised like all Peer to Peer (P2P) systems.


    Of course, once the electrical power is switched off, you better have some real silver and gold coins, because our current fiat money -- be it paper money or Bitcoins -- will be useless then. :-)

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    « Reply #9 on: February 06, 2014, 08:09:00 PM »
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  • Here's another interesting point about the digital Bitcoin:

    http://www.infowars.com/bitcoin-revolutionary-game-changer-or-trojan-horse/

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    « Reply #10 on: March 07, 2014, 02:18:17 PM »
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    « Reply #11 on: March 07, 2014, 03:54:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: ggreg
    What an inarticulate pillock

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26038200


    I don't see him as inarticulate.

    Disclaimer: I don't have much interest in Bitcoin, nor do I trust it.
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    « Reply #12 on: March 07, 2014, 05:21:51 PM »
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  • Mumbling and stumbling and waffling about his crazed ideas about economic freedom.

    Learn to speak correctly and clearly and someone might take you seriously.

    Who would want a currency underpinned by this dirty hippy?