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Offline Telesphorus

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George Zimmerman being railroaded
« on: May 29, 2013, 04:36:57 PM »
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  • This past Thursday, George Zimmerman's attorneys released new evidence relevant to the upcoming trial of their client on a second-degree murder charge for the shooting of Trayvon Martin.
    The Martin family attorneys say the evidence is irrelevant. They are wrong. It is damning. The text messages and photos from Martin's cell phone tell a story wildly at odds with the one the State of Florida and the media have been peddling for more than a year, but one altogether truer and sadder.
    In the way of recap, in February 2012, Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain in Sanford, Florida, shot and killed the seventeen-year-old Martin.
    Taking their cue from the Martin family's attorneys, Reuters ran the first national article on the shooting ten days after it happened.  Zimmerman was a "loose cannon."  He profiled Martin, stalked him, and shot him, disregarding police instructions.  Martin, by contrast, was a "good kid."  He had hoped to be a pilot.  He was simply bringing the soon-to-be iconic iced tea and Skittles home to his "little brother."
    This story was pure fable from the beginning, and the attorneys knew it.  Even before going public, they moved to seal Martin's school records, and with good reason.  Consider this exchange between Martin and a female friend on November 21, three months before his death.  After he told her he was "tired and sore" from a fight, she asked him why he fought.  "Bae" is shorthand for "babe."
    MARTIN: Cause man dat nigga snitched on me
    FRIEND: Bae y you always fightinqq man, you got suspended?
    MARTIN: Naw we thumped afta skool in a duckd off spot
    FRIEND: Ohh, Well Damee
    MARTIN: I lost da 1st round :( but won da 2nd nd 3rd . . . .
    FRIEND:  Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting bae Forreal
    MARTIN: Nay im not done with fool..... he gone hav 2 see me again
    FRIEND: Nooo... Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?
    MARTIN: Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose
    As his social media accounts show, Martin was a student of mixed martial arts.  The fight followed the MMA format.  A day later, he would tell a friend that his opponent "got mo hits cause in da 1st round he had me on da ground nd I couldn't do ntn."  As his girlfriend complained, Martin was "always" fighting.  He was also something of a sadist.  His opponent, after all, did not bleed enough.  Why might this be relevant?
    Witness #6, the best of the eyewitnesses to the shooting, told the Sanford PD that a there was a "black man in a black hoodie on top of either a white guy ... or an Hispanic guy in a red sweater on the ground yelling out help," and that black man on top was "throwing down blows on the guy MMA [mixed martial arts] style."
    Martin was not the innocent little boy that the media relentlessly and corruptly portrayed him to be.  At the time of his death, he was five feet, eleven inches and weighed 158 pounds.  To put this in perspective, legendary boxer Tommy "The Hitman" Hearns was six feet, one inch and 145 pounds when he first won the world welterweight title as a twenty-one-year-old.
    Before leaving for Orlando on February 21, 2012, Martin had already missed 53 days of school that year and been suspended three times, most recently for possessing drug paraphernalia, the time before that for getting caught with women's Jєωelry and a burglary tool.  Why might this be relevant?
    When George Zimmerman first spotted Martin near the shortcut into a community plagued by burglaries and home invasions, he told the dispatcher, "This guy looks like he's up to no good.  Or he's on drugs or something."  Zimmerman might have been right on both counts.
    Had the school district police not been ordered to suppress crime statistics, especially for black males, Martin would likely have been arrested at least twice, and that might have snapped his parents out of their fog.  Instead, as the new evidence reveals, he was allowed to live out his increasingly angry, aberrant life as though he were merely a bit mischievous.
    On November 22, the day after the MMA-style fight, Martin told a friend that his mother "just kicked me out" and that he had to move in with his father.  When the friend asked why, Martin answered, "Da police caught me outta skool."
    "U a hoodlum," said the friend.  "Naw," said Martin.  "I'm a gangsta."  Incredibly, his death would transform this wannabe gangster into a saintly little boy, or, in the words of Florida State Attorney Angela Corey, a "precious victim."
    On December 21, 2011, Martin told a friend, "dam I just got in trouble 4 sum sh** I aint even do."  His mother, Sybrina Fulton, was dismayed.  "Pack up your clothes now," she texted him.  "I love u but I think u being w/ ur Dad is best."
    Martin lived with his mother only intermittently and spent even less time with his father, who was then living with a sister in the Miami area.
    On December 22, Martin confided to a girlfriend, "I got in trouble."  She asked, "What did you do now."  As was typical, Martin took no responsibility.  "I aint do ntn . . . . call me."  The friend had other priorities: "I'm about to get my nails done so you gotta wait a few."
    On the day before Christmas, Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, texted him: "I'm concerned about u but I'm praying for u and I want U to pray for yourself EVERYDAY, ok."  She was texting the son she used to know.  The Trayvon who was about to turn seventeen, she knew next to nothing about.
    On January 6, 2012, Martin got into trouble at school again.  When asked why, he told a friend, "Caus I was watcn a fight nd a teacher say I hit em."  Said the friend, "Idk how u be getting in trouble an sh**."  By this time, Martin's mother had thrown him out of the house for "fightn," and he had moved in with his aunt and uncle.
    The multiple texts about "weed" and the photos of marijuana plants confirmed his interests in drugs -- a friend called him "weedhead" -- but the new photos pointed to an even more dangerous new hobby -- namely, guns.  Indeed, one of the photos of Martin's showed a hand, likely Martin's own, on a pistol.
    On February 21, 2012, Martin took the bus for Orlando to stay with his father's girlfriend, Brandy Green.  He was free to travel because his school had suspended him for marijuana.  The bust did little to sober him up.  "I hid m weed," he confided to a female friend, afraid that they might have searched him on the bus.  He texted later that day, "I got weed nd I get money Friday."
    The saddest messages among these texts come from the parents who indulged him.  They had all but lost control of their son but chose not to see how far out of control he had spun.  Like so many divorced parents, they were torn between punishing him and appeasing him.
    The father, Tracy Martin, texted his son during this trip to Orlando.  "Show much respect to and adjust to my Lady & [her son]. Show them you a good kid and you want positive things aroud you."  His mother texted him as well: "R u comfortable on the bus??  Go to sleep n u will be there soon."
    In between these texts, Martin was negotiating to buy a handgun with a friend.  "U wanna share a .380?" he asked.  Guns excited him.  "U got heat??" he enthused earlier upon learning that a friend had access to a gun.
    Upon leaving Miami, Martin seemed to be growing angrier.  On February 21, he texted a girlfriend who was pouting about another girl, presumably in Sanford.  Wrote Martin, "f*** u cuz I neva text ha 2 day I made dat sh** up so u leav me df alone bout it."
    Two days later on February 23, a friend tried to warn Martin off some behavior that troubled even the friend.  "I ain't ya parent," he texted him, "but gsh** thro it away."  Martin was not in the mood to be lectured to.  "Y u gotta knock my hustle??" he shot back.
    On February 26, bored and likely high, Martin was in no mood to be challenged by some small "white" guy who was trying to maintain a visual on him until the police arrived.
    "As I headed back to my vehicle the suspect emerged from the darkness and said, 'You got a problem?'" Zimmerman would tell the Sanford PD.  When Zimmerman answered, "No," Martin said, "You do now."  As it turned out, both of them had a problem.  Martin's proved fatal.
    Martin's parents failed him.  The school system failed him.  The sad vestiges of the civil rights movement betrayed him, and the media betrayed America.  This all comes at a cost, and the piper has yet to be paid.


    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/new_evidence_shows_trayvons_life_unraveling.html#ixzz2UihOI9ir
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    George Zimmerman being railroaded
    « Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 12:17:22 PM »
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  • None of this is admissable?


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    George Zimmerman being railroaded
    « Reply #2 on: June 14, 2013, 02:04:40 AM »
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  • One of the jurors apparently had a bias;
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    A potential juror at the George Zimmerman trial who told the court he had little knowledge of the case apparently indicated otherwise on Facebook.

    "I CAN tell you THIS. 'Justice'…IS Coming," the juror appeared to write of the Zimmerman case on the Facebook page for the "Coffee Party Progressives," a page with which he was confronted in Judge Debra Nelson's courtroom.

    The potential juror, assigned the number E7, who described himself as an "underemployed" musician and painter, told the court that he did not have a lot of knowledge about the case when it first happened.

    George Zimmerman was not screaming for help, two experts testify. Read the full story here.

    In February 2012, Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman in Sanford, Fla., shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin after an scuffle in the dark. Zimmerman has said he shot the African-American teen, who he said had been acting "suspiciously," in self-defense.

    The shooting triggered a national debate about race, protests, marches, even high school walkouts.

    Sixteen months later, Zimmerman faces a charge of second-degree murder.

    http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/did-potential-zimmerman-juror-lie-court-034710693.html

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    George Zimmerman being railroaded
    « Reply #3 on: June 14, 2013, 11:55:12 AM »
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  • George Zimmerman had a broken nose and his head was being slammed into the pavement.


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    George Zimmerman being railroaded
    « Reply #4 on: June 14, 2013, 12:40:08 PM »
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  • Trayvon Martin was a mis-behaved brat who was pandered to by his parents instead of being given the discipline that he needed.

    Poche, that report is not accurate. Zimmerman clearly had marks on his head, indicating that he was, as Tele said, being slammed into the pavement. The information released against Martin is not "irrelevant" like his family's attorneys say.

    It's interesting to note that Martin's father is a Freemason. I bet him and his Masonic buddies are trying to sabotage this trial the best they can.
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    George Zimmerman being railroaded
    « Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 07:55:22 PM »
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  • Speaking of Zimmerman's Freemasonic father and sabotaging the trial, this just in:

    George Zimmerman's Father Identifies The 'True Racists' In New Book
    The Huffington Post  |  By Cavan Sieczkowski   
    Posted: 06/15/2013 2:39 pm EDT  |  Updated: 06/15/2013 5:34 pm EDT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/15/george-zimmerman-father-african-americans-racist_n_3447025.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D329925


    Robert Zimmerman has released a book about the case against his son, George, who is standing trial for the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. In it, he shares his views on "how and why" his son has been charged with murder .

    "Florida v. Zimmerman: Uncovering the Malicious Prosecution of my Son, George" was released as an e-book Wednesday. The description reads simply: "This book describes how and why my son, George Zimmerman, has been charged with the crime of murder."

    Racism has been an overarching issue since Martin, who was unarmed, was shot and killed on Feb. 26, 2012. Many believe Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, targeted the teen that night in Sanford, Fla., because of Martin's race. Zimmerman's father, however, disagrees with the portrait that has been painted of his son.

    "As an adult, George continued to judge everyone as individuals, as he does today," Zimmerman writes in the prologue. "Many of George's closest and most trusted friends are African American. Although the FBI interviewed dozens of George's friends, neighbors, co-workers, and acquaintances, there is a tremendous amount of evidence that George is absolutely not a racist in any sense of the word."

    In fact, he thinks the racism is coming from elsewhere.

    In the chapter, "Who Are The True Racists," according to Think Progress, Zimmerman uses words like "pathetic," "self-serving" and "disgrace" when describing the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP and Martin's funeral director, among others. He says he believes they are promoting a racist agenda in the United States and around the Martin case.

    He also says that because U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder chose to investigate whether Martin's killing violated federal civil rights laws, the FBI didn't have “adequate resources to investigate clearly identified potential terrorist [sic] in the Boston area.” Now, “tragically, we have suffered the consequences of Mr. Holder’s politically motivated decisions," he wrote, according to Think Progress.

    Reviews of the book online thus far are divided. Commentators' critiques have ranged from praise from those who believe he is shedding new light on the case, to dismissive, calling it a conspiracy theory that blames everyone but the gunman, to angry.

    The first week of jury selection ended Friday and 29 potential jurors have completed the initial round of questioning, according to the Associated Press. Of those 29, 19 are white; six are black; two are Hispanic; one is Asian-American; and one describes himself as mixed race.

    Zimmerman, who is facing trial for second-degree murder, is pleading not guilty.
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    George Zimmerman being railroaded
    « Reply #6 on: June 15, 2013, 10:16:39 PM »
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  • This reminds me of the way the police were portrayed by the media and treated by the civil rights courts after the rodney king arrest.  

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    « Reply #7 on: June 16, 2013, 02:02:06 PM »
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  • Denying that one is racist never works.  Especially in the typical audience that has been well-trained by suggestion to disregard the defenses of those accused of holding "criminal" sentiments.

    Aren't racists permitted to defend themselves?

    Who can really believe Zimmerman shot this person because he was black?

    So what does racism have to do with what happened?  

    Fearing black crime and defending oneself against it is now considered racism?


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    « Reply #8 on: June 16, 2013, 03:53:36 PM »
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  • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti

    It's interesting to note that Martin's father is a Freemason. I bet him and his Masonic buddies are trying to sabotage this trial the best they can.


    That explains everything.

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    « Reply #9 on: June 24, 2013, 11:44:34 PM »
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  • The George Zimmerman murder trial began with a prosecutor telling the jury that Zimmerman killed teenager Trayvon Martin "because he wanted to," while Zimmerman's lawyer told the court it was a "sad case" but that "there are no monsters here."

    The jury heard several tapes, including Zimmerman's initial call to police as well as 911 calls made by people who heard a fight outside with someone in the background screaming for help.

    Trayvon Martin's mother abruptly left the courtroom when the tape with the screams was played in court.

    The racially charged case began with fireworks as prosecutor John Guy opening the trial with the blunt and shocking words, "F***ing punks."

    Guy, quoting from Zimmerman's phone call to police reporting a suspicious person the night of the shooting, continued: "These a**holes always get away."

    "Those were the words in the defendant's head just moments before he pressed the pistol," the prosecutor told the jury of six women.

    Zimmerman, 29, is on trial for shooting death of Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old who was killed by Zimmerman in February 2012.

    http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmermans-family-ordered-leave-courtroom-start-trial-123348738--abc-news-topstories.html

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    « Reply #10 on: June 24, 2013, 11:53:13 PM »
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  • This trial is becoming very ugly;

    The father of Trayvon Martin was accused today of having cursed at a supporter of George Zimmerman.

    The accusation came up as Zimmerman's lawyer argued to have Martin's parents banned from the courtroom since Zimmerman's parents were not allowed to be present for the proceedings. If the judge declined to order Martin's parents out, the lawyer asked that both sets of parents be allowed be present.

    The dispute arose during the first day of the trial in which Zimmerman, 29, is charged with the murder of Martin, who was 17 when he was killed in February 2012.

    Before the trial started, Judge Debra Nelson ordered Zimmerman's family to leave the courtroom because they are on the prosecution's list of possible witnesses and witnesses are barred from the court until they testify.

    Martin's parents were allowed to stay because Florida law allows the immediate family of victims to remain in court.

    Defense attorney Mark O'Mara asked that the judge allow Zimmerman's parents to also be present. The lawyer said he was seeking "an appropriate setting," and said it was "lopsided in favor of the state."

    In making his argument, O'Mara told the judge -- the jury was out of the room at the time -- that Martin's father Tracy Martin had "threatened or cursed at one of my client's family members."

    Tracy Martin could be seen shaking his head at the suggestion.

    The judge said that she had observed the court audience and found that, "everybody has been very well behaved," so the incident, "if that happened, it happened during recess."

    O'Mara called witness Tim Tuchalski to the stand who said that two weeks ago that while he was entering the courtroom wearing a tag identifying him as member of the Zimmerman family Tracy Martin swore at him while passing him.

    "He seen me and seen my badge and said motherf***er under his breath," Tuchalski told the court.

    He said, "I was holdling the door for him and his wife."

    Under questioning by prosecutor Bernardo de la Rionda, Tuchalski said, "That's what I believe I heard." When pressed by de la Rionda, he added, "I'm sure that's what I heard."

    He said the incident happened two weeks ago and at the time told Zimmerman's wife Shellie Zimmerman and later told court deputies.

    When asked why he was testifying about it two weeks later, Tuchalski said, "I didn't want to make any ripples… I didn't want to make anyone sound bad."

    The questioning did not change the judge's mind. She ruled that Martin's parents can stay in the courtroom and Zimmerman's must stay out because they are on a list of witnesses.


    http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmermans-friend-says-trayvon-martins-father-cursed-210740147--abc-news-topstories.html


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    « Reply #11 on: June 25, 2013, 09:47:05 AM »
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  • The case is playing into  Obama's desire for race wars wh/ would lead to martial law.

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    « Reply #12 on: June 25, 2013, 02:45:26 PM »
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  • If Trayvon Martin had beaten Mr. Zimmerman to death, this would have been page 17-A in the local newspaper and nothing else would be said about it.

    Unfortunately for Mr. Martin, his intended victim was armed.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 06, 2013, 10:05:25 AM »
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  • The defense said it best on opening, this is a "sad case".  Unfortunately it was made even sadder by the likes of Rev Al and Rainbow Jessie...as well as Trayvon's parents. From the beginning, this group has done very thing they can, from only posting old pics of TM to scrubbing all his social media accounts, in the hopes of deceiving the public into supporting a victim who is far from innocent.  

    Watching Sybrina testify the other day sickened me. She knows the truth about her sonn she kicked him out of the house for fighting. What infuriates me is the State Attorney. They r suppose to be seeking justice, aren't they?!?  I had friends who worked at the State Attorneys Off in JK when Cory was a prosecutor ant told me what a self observed, self serving turd she was. Not only should she lose her job over these bloated charges, hopefully she is named in a huge Zimmerman Civil Lawsuit.   Unfortunately, this gutless judge didn't have the stones to throw this case after the State rested...I guess it is true what they say, " those who can't hack it as litigators become judges". The State has shown nothing to contradict GZs accounts of what happened that night and the liberal medias big smoking gun, a mother identifying her sons voice on a recording. Did anyone really think she wasn't gonna say it was TMs voice?  Even if it was his voice, it proves nothing, he could have been screaming for help as he is fighting with GZS as he pulls his gun. If I am GZ and this guy, not a child or boy, is beating the absolute crap out of me and I feel him reaching for the gun, I pull it first. TM could be screaming for help as he has a hold of GZs gun hand until GZ discharges the weapon.

    I also have to laugh at the State trying to make a point of TM being only 158lbs. First of all, GZ was significantly slimmer then he is now in Feb of las year and weight really doesn't matter. When I wrestled in HS, I saw a 98lb wrestler beat the crud out of a 175lb wrestler because he ate one of his donuts. If your naturally strong....your just strong.

    Unfortunately, we r seeing this epidemic in society where parents r no longer preaching to their kids, respect your elders. While I don't agree with ZM being armed all the time, TM could have deescalated the whole incident by just respectfully talking with Zimmerman. I saw the pics of GZ from that night and there was really nothing scary about him....which I believe was why TM was so confident in confronting and assaulting GZ.  

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    « Reply #14 on: July 06, 2013, 10:38:06 AM »
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  • It was smokescreen for Obamacare.   Around the same time a little white girl from our area went missing. Then found dead in trash can.  She was murdered by two black teenagers.
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