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Offline St Giles

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Re: Engine Maintenance Tips: Additives & Oil
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2025, 08:59:39 PM »
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  • And it's not auto connecting to wifi or bluetooth without you realizing? Maybe it was the D8 that had the 1 month problems.

    I'll have to look again, but one scan tool I was looking at scared me because some people had it malfunction and damage the computer on multiple cars before they figured out the tool was broken.
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    Re: Engine Maintenance Tips: Additives & Oil
    « Reply #16 on: December 25, 2025, 09:04:22 PM »
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  • The long warm-up when starting a cold engine is actually bad for the engine because it prolongs the amount of time it takes for the engine to warm up, and most engine wear occurs when the engine is cold. I used to have a car that had an oil pressure gauge, and I noticed that it took about five seconds for the oil pressure to reach the proper level, so when I start the car cold I give it about 5-10 seconds for the oil to reach the right pressure and then I start driving. I do avoid revving the engine high when it's cold, though; that's probably reasonable.

    I avoid high revs when cold thinking the oil may cavitate or something when thick, but I'm probably wrong on that a least when using the right viscosity at the right temp.

    Mr. Oil Geek said nothing so much about wear from a cold engine than just more blow by causing fuel, water, and soot to get into the oil, and not evaporating out of the oil if the engine never fully warms up, backed up by some tests of course.
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    Re: Engine Maintenance Tips: Additives & Oil
    « Reply #17 on: December 26, 2025, 05:18:03 AM »
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  • I like older cars that have been well maintained and it’s as few bells and whistles as possible.  I’ve never bought a new car, never will. 

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    Re: Engine Maintenance Tips: Additives & Oil
    « Reply #18 on: December 30, 2025, 05:15:57 PM »
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  •  Cold, and sitting for years, can cause the built-in additives to separate out, which are not easy to mix back in (shaking the bottle does almost nothing). 
    I tested an idea for mixing the settled out additives in new oil bottles, and it worked well.

    I warmed a jug of oil in a pot of water on the stove, and once it was very warm, which took 20min or so, I held it upside down and shook it vigorously. Using a powerful flashlight shining through the jug while upside down, I confirmed that there was sediment stuck to the bottom, and that it was gone after shaking. Warming is necessary, because room temperature oil is almost like syrup, while hot oil is at least as thin as water.
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    Re: Engine Maintenance Tips: Additives & Oil
    « Reply #19 on: December 30, 2025, 06:00:59 PM »
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  • I haven't read the whole thread here, but one tip I can mention is that you shouldn't trust an oil change business to put the correct oil in your car. 

    Unless it is a bigger establishment, like a car dealer of your type of car.

    But these quick lube places should be avoided, unless you buy your own oil and bring it in to them and after they drain, watch them pour your oil in the engine.


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    Re: Engine Maintenance Tips: Additives & Oil
    « Reply #20 on: December 30, 2025, 06:37:05 PM »
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  • On that note, bottled oil is better, since it is less likely to get filled with the wrong fluid or mislabeled.
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    Re: Engine Maintenance Tips: Additives & Oil
    « Reply #21 on: Today at 01:19:21 AM »
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  • The idea of the 3,000 mile oil change was invented as a scam by quick-change oil places and has been debunked many times. The people who actually built the car know best how often the oil needs to be changed, and they put it in the owner's manual, and it is usually 8-10k for most modern cars, or sometimes as low as 5k, but it's best to just follow whatever it says.

    Not before synthetic oil was invented. And nowadays, it's still a terrible idea to abide by the manufacturers' scheduled oil changes. Even with full synthetic oil, you shouldn't go past 5,000 miles before an oil/filter change. The Oil Geek guy and many others on YT affirm this practice.

    Also, never use 0W20 oil despite the manufacturers telling you to use it. It will destroy your engine a lot sooner than later. That's good for the auto industry because you end up having to buy another car. Go with 5W30 oil in an engine where the manufacturer says to use 0W20. The engines never changed but, overnight, manufacturers instructed owners to use 0W20 in order to placate the EPA and gain a fraction of 1% of fuel efficiency.

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    Re: Engine Maintenance Tips: Additives & Oil
    « Reply #22 on: Today at 11:43:44 AM »
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  • With a good filter and the right Synthetic, I see 7,500-10,000 as no issue at all.

    But something I did find here that seems to work extremely well.  I have a Toyota Sienna about 10 years old with 250K miles on it and it just started leaking some oil.  Mechanic said it was rear engine seal, and that they'd have to remove the engine and it would be many thousands, and so he recommended just adding oil (if you don't care about leaking oil everywhere ... and I kindof do).

    But I found this stuff here:  AT-205 Re-Seal, and it works like a charm, with great reviews from everyone saying it does recondition the rubber gaskets / seals.  So I'm hoping to get 350-400K miles on that Toyota, since it still drives almost like new.

    I had to get a new alternator around 200K, and did a bunch of shocks, struts, suspension stuff around 225K ... and apart from those two things, absolutely nothing other than routine maintenance items (breaks, etc.).  Engine is still quiet (not doing that knocking/pininging stuff from valve noise, even in the cold).

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/ATP-Automatic-Transmission-Re-Seal-AT-205-8-oz-bottle-sold-by-each/171600091

    I'm convinced this stuff will get me another 100K out of this car, and I've got another one vehicle in the 150K range that I'm going to use it for, even though it hasn't started leaking yet.  For my other vehicles that are under 100K, I'm going to just use this as a matter of course at 100, then again at 150, 200, etc.

    In addition, just to reduce engine wear, this stuff works great ...

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017UPHNXO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B017UPHNXO&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />


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    Re: Engine Maintenance Tips: Additives & Oil
    « Reply #23 on: Today at 03:28:19 PM »
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  • In addition, just to reduce engine wear, this stuff works great ...

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017UPHNXO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B017UPHNXO&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />
    It works great because you've done precise scientific lab testing to prove it, right? Right? 

    The re-seal is probably not a bad idea, but if the oil makers could make oil better by adding that oil stabilizer, they would have. Chances are you are just messing up a precisely formulated and tested additive balance while making the oil thicker.

    It's funny to see reviews for additives where people say, "I put it in, and I feel like it's doing a great job". That's feel as in, not feeling an objective difference, rather feel good just because you like the brand or product idea.

    Thicker oil can slow leaks, so maybe try 5w30, or 10w30 in the summer. Just watch out for a blowout. A rear main seal (Why does the front seal never fail?) can go from a trickle to 2qts in a half hour of driving in a short time.
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