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Offline Geremia

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Does "bearing the yoke with unbelievers" (2 Cor. 6:14)
« on: July 24, 2016, 10:46:21 PM »
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  • Quote from: St. Paul, 2 Cor. 6:14
    Bear not the yoke with infidels. For what participation hath justice with iniquity? or what society is there between light and darkness?
    Does this forbid working with non-Catholics in the workplace?

    I think the solution for unemployed Catholics is to start businesses with Catholics only. We Catholics really need to abandon usury-powered Corporate America and setup our own alternate economy, especially when the economic collapse occurs.
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    Does "bearing the yoke with unbelievers" (2 Cor. 6:14)
    « Reply #1 on: July 24, 2016, 10:59:46 PM »
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  • Quote from: Geremia
    Quote from: St. Paul, 2 Cor. 6:14
    Bear not the yoke with infidels. For what participation hath justice with iniquity? or what society is there between light and darkness?
    Does this forbid working with non-Catholics in the workplace?

    I think the solution for unemployed Catholics is to start businesses with Catholics only. We Catholics really need to abandon usury-powered Corporate America and setup our own alternate economy, especially when the economic collapse occurs.


    IMO, you're being too scrupulous. If the bolded is true, then pretty much this entire forum will be on the streets and unemployed, depending on their idea of "Catholic".
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    Does "bearing the yoke with unbelievers" (2 Cor. 6:14)
    « Reply #2 on: July 24, 2016, 11:29:47 PM »
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    IMO, you're being too scrupulous. If the bolded is true, then pretty much this entire forum will be on the streets and unemployed, depending on their idea of "Catholic".
    Perhaps I should've asked it this way: "Given the choice between working with Catholics and working with non-Catholics, are we obliged to work with Catholics?"
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    Does "bearing the yoke with unbelievers" (2 Cor. 6:14)
    « Reply #3 on: August 02, 2016, 10:19:16 AM »
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  • From the epistle of today's Mass for St. Alphonsus di Liguori:
    Quote from: 2 Tim. 2:3-4,7
    Conduct yourself in work as a good soldier of Christ Jesus. No one serving as God’s soldier entangles himself in worldly affairs, that he may please him whose approval he has secured. … The farmer who toils must be the first to partake of the fruits.
    The bold part is related to:
    Quote from: 1 Cor. 7:31
    …they that use this world, as though they used it not…
    We certainly must use the world; that's what God created it for. But He doesn't want us to be entangled in it.

    Hence, it seems that working with seculars would be to bear the yoke with them if you are working for them and against God. But if you are using them (not working for their godless ends but using them for bringing about God's will), then this would not be to bear the yoke with them.

    Catholics must use their godless employers, not be servilely obedient to them.
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    Does "bearing the yoke with unbelievers" (2 Cor. 6:14)
    « Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 10:26:07 AM »
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    Catholics must use their godless employers, not be servilely obedient to them.
    not "please him whose approval he has secured".
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    « Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 12:52:19 PM »
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  • Quote from: Geremia
    Quote from: St. Paul, 2 Cor. 6:14
    Bear not the yoke with infidels. For what participation hath justice with iniquity? or what society is there between light and darkness?
    Does this forbid working with non-Catholics in the workplace?

    I think the solution for unemployed Catholics is to start businesses with Catholics only. We Catholics really need to abandon usury-powered Corporate America and setup our own alternate economy, especially when the economic collapse occurs.


    It means to keep your distance so you do not fall into the same Godless ways as them, do not seek to be trusted friends with infidels or to marry one because he expects it likely that the believer risks the loss of faith on that account, but what does the infidel risk losing?

    It doesn't really have anything to do with working with non-Catholics.    
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

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    « Reply #6 on: August 02, 2016, 02:49:34 PM »
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    Does this forbid working with non-Catholics in the workplace?


    No it does not.  From the Haydock Commentary:

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    Bear not the yoke together with unbelievers. He does not mean, that they must wholly avoid their company, which could not be done, but not to have too intimate a friendship with them, not to marry with them, to avoid their vices. Be ye separate....touch not the unclean thing. He does not speak of meats, clean and unclean, according to the law of Moses, nor of legal uncleannesses, but what is sinful under the new law of Christ, and would defile the soul, as idolatry, fornication, &c. (Witham)

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    Does "bearing the yoke with unbelievers" (2 Cor. 6:14)
    « Reply #7 on: October 08, 2016, 06:16:48 PM »
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  • Addressing "Whether unbelievers may have authority or dominion over the faithful?," St. Thomas writes:
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    the Church permits Christians to work on the land of Jєωs, because this does not entail their living together with them.
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    « Reply #8 on: October 09, 2016, 01:00:59 AM »
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  • There are two main meanings for this passage. The first, concerning marriage, the second, on not communicating with Heretics in any act of religion. The first  annotation I found for that verse says: "It is not lawful for Catholics to marry with Heretics or Infidels. ". The second annotation says:

    Quote from: Douay Rheims, year 1582, on St. Paul, 2 Cor. 6:14
    Generally here is forbidden conversation and dealing with all Infidels, and consequently, with Heretics, but specially in prayers, or meetings, at their Schismatical Service, preaching, or other divine office whatsoever. Which the Apostle here uttered in more particular and different terms, that Christian folk may take the better heed of it. No society (saith he) nor fellowship, no participation, nor agreement, no consent between light and darkness, Christ and Baal, the temple of God, and the temple of Idols: all Service, as pretended worship of God set up by Heretics or Schismatics, being nothing else but Service of Baal and plain idolatry, and their conventicles nothing but conspirations against Christ, from such therefore specially we must sever ourselves always in heart and mind, and touching any act of religion in body also, according as the children of Israel were commanded by God to separate themselves from the Schismatics Core, Dathan, and Abiron, and their tabernacles, by these words: "Depart from their tabernacles of the impious men, and touch ye not those things which pertain to them, lest you be enwrapped in their sins"
       
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    « Reply #9 on: October 09, 2016, 11:49:55 PM »
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  • God calls all of us to give witness to the holiness of the Catholic Faith to all the people. If we don't live the holiness that God calls us to then we will have to answer for those who would have converted but didn't.