Wow, I can see this thread turned out to be a bomb.

I we are to believe all the NWO conspiracy theories, all roads lead to London and the bankers within the tiny enclave which consists of one square mile commonly referred to as the "City of London" control all the worlds wealth and pull all the strings.  If this ascertain is true and they are really running out of physical gold reserves, then to my way of reasoning and that of others, once the current fiat paper scam finally collapses, these bankers will have nothing left to continue the charade and hence will no longer be able to wield any control or influence over the world.  The Western central banksters are is deep doo doo.

I have stated before that all the various conspiracy theories floating about are NWO in my earnest opinion are a load of malarkey.  The real conspiracy (which in reality is no conspiracy at all) is that the entire world is has been subverted and taken over by Communists.  Already they're on the precipice of total victory.  Face it, the commies have already conquered most of Asia, South America, Canada and are making great inroads in Africa and Oceania.  The European Union has already completely succuмbed. The only thing standing in their way of complete and total victory is the Catholic Church and what little remains of American freedoms.  This is way they absolutely need Obama to win the upcoming election. This will enable them just enough time to accomplish the finishing touches needed for their nefarious plot.

The way I perceive the current world situation is that there is a great power struggle brewing between the Occident and the Orient as well as between Christianity and Islam.  Now I know some are of the opinion that Communism and Capitalism are two sides of the same coin which to a degree I don't dispute.  The fat capitalists did provide the funding which enabled the Bolsheviks to seize power.  However once all the wealth and power are shifted to the East, those in control there are not going to be willing to share equally in the booty and power with the Western banksters.  

http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-in-2-years-time-the-gold-cartel-will-have-no-physical-gold-remaining/
Jim Willie: ‘In 2 Year’s Time, the Gold Cartel WILL HAVE NO PHYSICAL GOLD REMAINING!’




http://fredw-catharsisours.blogspot.com/2012/06/excellent-jim-willie-article-focusing.html

http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2012/05/16/jim-willie-gold-cartel-is-mortally-wounded-1000-metric-tons-of-gold-cleaned-out-by-eastern-coalition/

http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/page/2/

On second thought after doing a little research it appears that the Eastern Coalition (to borrow Jim Willie's expression) is eager to dump the U.S. dollar and has been busy very emptying all the physical gold from the vaults of the criminal banking establishment. Perhaps this authors assessment is accurate, once the SHTF and the worlds economies come screeching to a halt, they will have no other system in place in which to fall back on.

http://www.beaconequity.com/gld-etf-raid-imminent-as-china-flushes-jp-morgan-of-physical-2012-05-11/

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/27/gold-manipulation-backfiring-on-west/

Is it possible that Western central bankers have been attempting to suppress the value of gold? For many years the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee (GATA) has been attempting to expose manipulation in the gold (and silver) market.
It’s really not a matter of whether or not it’s happening. That’s been pretty much made clear. It’s more a matter of whether anything will ever be done about it. It’s apparent that the powers that be aren’t going to address this anytime soon.

The history of gold’s suppression goes back to the plan to sever the umbilical cord between gold and the dollar back in ’71. Since gold is a direct competitor with what then became the greenback, its rise against the dollar signified the dollar’s failure to hold value. With this in mind, the price of gold has been manipulated, to a certain degree, since it dropped from its 1980 highs. Much of the history, with associated docuмentation, can be found on GATA’s website. This recent article from James Turk is helpful as well.

Such efforts have resulted in many Western central banks dumping gold onto the markets. It’s well known that England’s central bank sold off half of its gold reserves over a decade ago, at very low prices. Speculators continue to question whether gold, gold-coated tungsten or simply empty space is being guarded in Fort Knox.

For the central bankers and their malleable fiat currency, gold was the enemy. In recent years, however, there’s been a shifting of sentiment. Germany has been inventorying its gold. Venezuela recalled all but 10% of its gold from central banks. Switzerland has been examining its gold reserves.

In the meantime, Eastern nations have been accuмulating gold. Russia hasn’t made it a secret that it’s increasing its gold reserves. China’s gold reserves grow with each passing year, even as the percentage of its reserves devoted to U.S. dollars diminishes. In fact, China is a net importer of gold, even though it mines much of the world’s current production. And now we read of Iran taking gold as payment in order to allow countries to circuмvent the sanctions levied against the Islamic Republic.

Perhaps the irony of what Western banks have accomplished is finally settling in. As they suppress the price of gold, they’re helping Eastern nations accuмulate at their manipulated prices. This is happening even as Western currencies are dropping in value, threatening massive inflation in coming years. If this trend progresses, gold’s price won’t only go up; the yellow metal will shift to Eastern shores, strengthening Eastern currencies in the process.

Make no mistake: This is a shift of wealth from West to East. The only recourse Western bankers have is to begin accuмulating. But to do so will mean they must allow gold to run its course — a course that very well may be straight up in value. It’s a catch-22. Suppress gold and watch it flow eastward, guaranteeing the ultimate demise of Western economies; or accuмulate, which will necessitate greater drops in the value of Western currencies. Either way, gold’s going up.

http://www.theundergroundinvestor.com/2012/04/nine-gold-myths-everyone-needs-to-understand-to-survive-this-global-economic-crisis/

http://www.silverdoctors.com/eric-sprott-theres-not-going-to-be-a-recovery-theres-no-gold-to-buy/

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Rowsofvoices ~
I have stated before that all the various conspiracy theories floating about are NWO in my earnest opinion are a load of malarkey.  The real conspiracy (which in reality is no conspiracy at all) is that the entire world is has been subverted and taken over by Communists.  Already they're on the precipice of total victory.  Face it, the commies have already conquered most of Asia, South America, Canada and are making great inroads in Africa and Oceania.  The European Union has already completely succuмbed. The only thing standing in their way of complete and total victory is the Catholic Church and what little remains of American freedoms.  This is way they absolutely need Obama to win the upcoming election. This will enable them just enough time to accomplish the finishing touches needed for their nefarious plot.

The way I perceive the current world situation is that there is a great power struggle brewing between the Occident and the Orient as well as between Christianity and Islam.  Now I know some are of the opinion that Communism and Capitalism are two sides of the same coin which to a degree I don't dispute.  The fat capitalists did provide the funding which enabled the Bolsheviks to seize power.  However once all the wealth and power are shifted to the East, those in control there are not going to be willing to share equally in the booty and power with the Western banksters.  
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What you have written would certainly fit with the statement by Sister Lucia to William Thomas Walsh, which was that if the people did not convert, & the pope did not obey, that the entire world would become subject to Communist tyranny. It also fits with many prophecies such as those by Alois Irlmaier which are coming to pass before our very eyes. There is a series of videos on youtube of a talk given by soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov during the early 80's, if you type in his name along with G. Edward Griffin's, it ought to come up. The process of subversion favoured by the KGB is described in detail. There are several stages which take decades, all save the last have been implemented in this country.

 I'm sure that you would find it interesting, if you haven't already listened to it. The only thing lacking in your analysis is the role played by international Jєωry. Read about who originated Communism, who the chief Communists in the Soviet Union were. Even Lenin had Jєωιѕн blood & spoke Yiddish in addition to Russian,  German & other languages, can't quite remember them all now. Unlike Obama the teleprompter reader, he was intelligent as well as wicked. A lot of the alternative theories bandied about, which minimise the role of Int'l Jєωry & their Communist agentur, & tend instead to focus on shadowy "globalists" &c. bring to mind a famous quotation of Lenin's : "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it."

 His successor Stalin had another I find interesting "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic"  There is a great psychological truth in this. There are many in this country who, lacking any religious formation whatsoever, & suffering great & ever worsening misery due to the deliberate destruction of the economy would be more than willing to accept a Communist regime. A regime that promised them regular employment & to provide the necessaries of life would be quite appealing to them. Hearing about millions of murders committed by Communist governments wouldn't bother them, as they're trained from an early age to utterly disregard the study of history.

 To them it's just a number, & what's more it happened 50 or 80 years ago half-way around the world, what does it matter to them, right here & right now? That's the mentality they've absorbed from the mighty screen. They're already used to the gov't controlling nearly every aspect of life, so that part of the Communist system wouldn't bother them. There are already so many laws in this country that one is almost afraid to walk out of the front door because there may well be a law that classifies using your right foot first instead of your left as a felony.

They would also not mind the persecution of the Church because most of them are already "spiritual but not religious" neo-pagans anyway. The U.S. will, as Lenin said, fall into the hands of Judaeo-Bolshevism like an over-ripe fruit as a result of the very well thought out & implemented plan of slow subversion we are here writing about. May God have mercy on us all.

He says that within a couple of years the Central Banks will have no physical gold because they've had to fork it over to China in order to keep their fiat paper scam going.  China is amassing huge amounts of gold as well as other countries such as India and Russia.  All the gold is being shifted to the East.  This is one reason that the claim that the NWO elites are deliberately trying to destroy the current monetary system doesn't make any sense to me.

We're not on a "gold standard." Money isn't representative of gold, it's represents (or it should represent) real wealth. When more money or credit is created that there is real wealth produced, the currency is devalued. This steals from everybody in a stealthy manner.

St. Thomas speaks of money being "invented by the art of man for the convenience of exchange by serving as a common measure of things saleable". As a common measure it should be stable. There is nothing that would dictate the currency itself, whatever it might be, should have some intrinsic value.

I have stated before that all the various conspiracy theories floating about are NWO in my earnest opinion are a load of malarkey.  The real conspiracy (which in reality is no conspiracy at all) is that the entire world is has been subverted and taken over by Communists.  ...

I disagree.

The overarching conspiracy is Satan's war against God.

In the hierarchy of Satan's war against God, the highest earthly conspiracy is the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan's war against God, His Law, and His Chosen People <<< us, the Catholic Church, the New Israel.

Communism, Predatory Capitalism, Libertarianism/Liberalism are all subsets of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, Judaic sects in service to Satan's goals.

Quote from: SJB

St. Thomas speaks of money being "invented by the art of man for the convenience of exchange by serving as a common measure of things saleable". As a common measure it should be stable. There is nothing that would dictate the currency itself, whatever it might be, should have some intrinsic value.

Very true.

Then money, as defined by St. Thomas, does not need intrinsic valve.

However, if history is to teach us anything, over and over again it shows us that the only great civilizations which lasted for a sustained and protracted length of time were those whose currencies were based on gold and silver.  What always eventually led to their demise was when they began debasing their currencies with base metals.   The Greek civilization overall enjoyed the greatest success and lasted the longest and their coinage was made using gold and silver.  Also, their currency was the first one ever to become the worlds international currency.  It was virtually accepted the world over for trade.  Long after Greek culture was absorbed by the Roman Empire, their money continued to be used.  Another thing worth mentioning about Greek coinage was its great artistic beauty.  To this day it is highly prized by collectors.

St. Thomas is correct in every way.  The sole purpose of money should only be for  assisting those who produce the goods and supplying those who consume them with the basic necessities to sustain life.  If utopia existed this side of creation, it wouldn't matter what was used as money.  Unfortunately inordinate greed is a great vice in some men which always ruins it for all.

I don't think you've shown us why this would be true. The creation of money and credit only needs to be comensurate with the real wealth created. Somebody still needs to increase the supply of money or credits when it is required by the creation of new wealth through human activity. This is necessarily done by the state in some manner. For example, the "gold standard" was abused by money manipulators and it was a disaster.