Author Topic: Copper thieves get fried (Read 7424 times)

Matthew · « **on:** January 13, 2010, 11:17:58 PM »

Is this how bad the economy is? I don't see any recovery. I think we'll be seeing a LOT MORE of this kind of stuff going forward.

These pictures are pretty graphic.

CM · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2010, 11:19:15 PM »

And now they're almost certainly in hell. For what?

Jehanne · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2010, 07:54:53 AM »

Quote from: CM

And now they're almost certainly in hell. For what?

Almost certainly?? Repentance at death, David, right? Possible, maybe not probable, but what the One and Triune God could do for one, He could also do for many.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2010, 07:45:59 PM »

I was acquainted with a gangster who was killed in a deal gone bad (or something like that), he was anything but a good Catholic, and was of course Novus Ordo. Minutes after being shot, he repented and made a brief but sincere act of contrition before he died. I am confident God had mercy on his soul and that he is in Purgatory right now.

Im not saying that this is the case with everyone, but wicked people (provided they are baptized Catholics) often give us some big surprises.

Alex · « **Reply #4 on:** January 21, 2010, 03:23:33 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

Is this how bad the economy is? I don't see any recovery. I think we'll be seeing a LOT MORE of this kind of stuff going forward.

Maybe you should put a warning on this, Matthew. Those are some very disturbing pictures.

Alex · « **Reply #5 on:** January 21, 2010, 03:30:34 AM »

If I recall correctly from my Catholic reading, stealing can be mortal or venial, depending on how much the item stolen is. For instance, while stealing a car might be considered a mortal sin, stealing a candy bar is only a venial sin. So, if copper is not that expensive (don't know if it is or not), then what these theives did would not merit hell.

Alex · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2010, 03:56:08 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Samurai

I was acquainted with a gangster who was killed in a deal gone bad (or something like that), he was anything but a good Catholic, and was of course Novus Ordo. Minutes after being shot, he repented and made a brief but sincere act of contrition before he died. I am confident God had mercy on his soul and that he is in Purgatory right now.

Were you there when he repented or did a witness tell you?

Matthew · « **Reply #7 on:** January 21, 2010, 08:26:13 AM »

Quote from: Alex

If I recall correctly from my Catholic reading, stealing can be mortal or venial, depending on how much the item stolen is. For instance, while stealing a car might be considered a mortal sin, stealing a candy bar is only a venial sin. So, if copper is not that expensive (don't know if it is or not), then what these theives did would not merit hell.

As I understand it, if you steal a day's wages, that would be a mortal sin. But what if it's city property? What are a days' wages for the city that owns the infrastructure?

Is stealing thousands of dollars worth of copper (and doing tens of thousands worth of damage) a trivial theft, or a serious theft?

I'm not a theologian, but I'd have to say it's a serious (grave) matter. After all, you're talking about destroying public property, instead of just one man's. How many people lost power because of this? Did anyone commit a sin because of the outage? Did anyone lose a days' wages? (Telecommuters and contract workers, for example) Did anyone DIE (besides the thieves)? And if no innocent people died, was that because of luck, or was it actually impossible?

Matthew

Petertherock · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2010, 11:14:34 AM »

St. Alphonsus Liguori said that scarcely 1 in 100,000 death bed confessions are valid.

Jamie · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2010, 02:04:49 PM »

Just for the record, copper is very valuable and it is not at all uncommon for thieves to steal power cables in areas that are isolated.

Next time you are thinking of re-doing the spouting and downpipes on your house, check out the price for copper versus plastic and you will see why.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #10 on:** January 22, 2010, 03:26:02 PM »

Quote from: Alex

Quote from: Catholic Samurai
I was acquainted with a gangster who was killed in a deal gone bad (or something like that), he was anything but a good Catholic, and was of course Novus Ordo. Minutes after being shot, he repented and made a brief but sincere act of contrition before he died. I am confident God had mercy on his soul and that he is in Purgatory right now.

Were you there when he repented or did a witness tell you?

Now what makes you think I was right there while a drug deal was being made? Im a good boy! :stare:

Guardian Angel: "Oh really?"

A witness told me, though there were a number of people who witnessed his last moments and there were people praying for him.

It's actually a blessing to him that this thread reminds me of him since I havent offered any prayers for him for several years. Please add him to your prayers for the Poor Souls.