Now the one in New York comes with a disclaimer, unfortunately. Fine print, if you will.
https://www.ourladyofmartyrsshrine.org/mass-schedule
The shrine does say the Novus Ordo as well as the Latin Mass. A lot of people here would find that unacceptable.
Also there are probably Catholic homesteaders who are overwhelmed or want to expand to more animals and crops but can't manage it.
Perhaps they would allow a family to park a trailer home on their land in exchange for labor.
Of course if somebody were to make this agreement they would want a written contract. It wouldn't need to be fancy lawyer jargon but clearly written and signed with the agreement it can be renegotiated and amended at times.
There should be a network for Catholic homesteaders if there isn't one already.
Homesteaders could also set up barter agreements where one family does dairy, another does pigs, another does vegetables etc.
In Wagga in 1956 there were 38 groups, mostly because of the influence of Bishop Henschke. 3
I remember (about 60 years ago) my own father making investigations and study of this issue. There was to be a project of some sort established in the Diocese of Wagga Wagga under church auspices.
Both my parents were country-born who had moved to Sydney in the youth, with their families.
This is a thesis based on these endeavours
https://eprints.utas.edu.au/20338/1/whole_MaddenKathy1995_thesis.pdf
I have an "office" job, but I also have land that I cultivate and from which I obtain almonds, tangerines, grapes, olives, onions, melons and barbary figs. I get eggs from a neighbor.
It's enough to work Saturday and Sunday afternoons. Can be combined with normal job.
I also collect rainwater through a... cistern? It's like this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Walraversijde53.jpg/800px-Walraversijde53.jpg)
But mine is bigger.
The field is about half an hour's drive from my house more or less.
But I don't see it viable to live of the field. They pay very little and you need large tracts of land with machinery for it.
Also you still depend on being in the system to sell and buy things, when the time comes they can cut you off, and also the police can come at any time if you are out of the system.
This can serve to survive if there is a famine or they don't let me buy food, but if there is an open persecution I won't escape martyrdom
Catholic Rural Life (CRL) has a rich history spanning 98 years. The organization, originally called National Catholic Rural Life Conference (NCRLC), has spent decades dedicating hard work and prayer to promoting Catholic life in rural America.Very weird that Vatican II wiped that out CRL in local rural areas and punished children who worked on farms or family owned businesses. The corrupt diocese dumped the lazy pedophile priests who drank and pushed theatre. Source of truth is bishop accountability.org.
https://catholicrurallife.org/about/history/
I have an "office" job, but I also have land that I cultivate and from which I obtain almonds, tangerines, grapes, olives, onions, melons and barbary figs. I get eggs from a neighbor.almonds, tangerines, grapes, olives, onions, melons and barbary figs, eggs, rainwater. Have you tried making wine. Keeps longer than grapes. In our neck of the woods barbary fig (prickly pear) is a prohibited invasive plant under the Biosecurity Act 2014, though the fruit can be purchased in big cetres.
It's enough to work Saturday and Sunday afternoons. Can be combined with normal job.
I also collect rainwater through a... cistern? It's like this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Walraversijde53.jpg/800px-Walraversijde53.jpg)
But mine is bigger.
The field is about half an hour's drive from my house more or less.
But I don't see it viable to live of the field. They pay very little and you need large tracts of land with machinery for it.
Also you still depend on being in the system to sell and buy things, when the time comes they can cut you off, and also the police can come at any time if you are out of the system.
This can serve to survive if there is a famine or they don't let me buy food, but if there is an open persecution I won't escape martyrdom
almonds, tangerines, grapes, olives, onions, melons and barbary figs, eggs, rainwater. Have you tried making wine. Keeps longer than grapes. In our neck of the woods barbary fig (prickly pear) is a prohibited invasive plant under the Biosecurity Act 2014, though the fruit can be purchased in big cetres.I have made vine a few times with a neighbor who has the machinery. I know how to do it, although I prefer beer. But yes, it's an option for the situation we are considering.
This looks a good balanced diet; as long as you can hold onto it in time of famine you'll do fine. Congratulations!
I knew an old Italian man who lived in the alps as a child and his family survived well on chestnuts and goat's milk. He live to a ripe old age and was strong as an ox though quite diminutive.
I have made vine a few times with a neighbor who has the machinery. I know how to do it, although I prefer beer. But yes, it's an option for the situation we are considering.Nice to have someone from Spain. Are you a native or have you migrated? I am in the far north of Australia.
Here there isn't a problem with prickly pear, but of course it depends on the country, I live in the Southeast of Spain.
I can't have animals because that requires going every day.
Nice to have someone from Spain. Are you a native or have you migrated? I am in the far north of Australia.Native. Curious, I thought you would be Arab or Moorish because of your nick.
chapel...Check back for schedule and more information.
- Traditional Latin Mass at Our Lady of Martyrs Shrine (https://www.ourladyofmartyrsshrine.org/) on Sunday, August 14th
My husband started homesteading/off-grid and it was a huge change since he was raised in the city. He had to save up in order to do so. The growing season is short (long winters) but we do have chickens that will give us many eggs a day. Ideally, we'd like our children to settle on the land and have their own families, and create a sort of community. Also, we didn't finish post-secondary but have done a bit of it, so we're not keen on encouraging it to our kids, especially daughters.Excellent.
We do sell our eggs to our neighbour and to another local, barter for beef and canned goods. Our area is not very traditional or Catholic really and many of the farmers' children have moved to the city. I have seen some kids around here help with the cattle ranches. We plan to get sheep and dogs, but it depends on our financial situation.
Unfortunately, our land flooded recently so my husband had to move to a spot with higher elevation to start building our house.
Excellent.I've never had goat meat and I really like lamb, but it's expensive in the stores. I think we might sell the wool or use it as stuffing? Also, we're interested in seeing if sheep's milk/cheese is a better alternative than cow's since we kind of have health issues with dairy. If goat's milk tastes fine, could try having them instead of sheep.
Goats are dual purpose more so than sheep, unless you plan to shear then and spin wool.
I've never had goat meat and I really like lamb, but it's expensive in the stores. I think we might sell the wool or use it as stuffing? Also, we're interested in seeing if sheep's milk/cheese is a better alternative than cow's since we kind of have health issues with dairy. If goat's milk tastes fine, could try having them instead of sheep.Goat Meat is excellent!
Native. Curious, I thought you would be Arab or Moorish because of your nick.No. my heritage is mostly Irish. But the name Nadir originated in a round about way from an Albanian.
My husband started homesteading/off-grid and it was a huge change since he was raised in the city. He had to save up in order to do so. The growing season is short (long winters) but we do have chickens that will give us many eggs a day. Ideally, we'd like our children to settle on the land and have their own families, and create a sort of community. Also, we didn't finish post-secondary but have done a bit of it, so we're not keen on encouraging it to our kids, especially daughters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_K1Vju0r6Q
We do sell our eggs to our neighbour and to another local, barter for beef and canned goods. Our area is not very traditional or Catholic really and many of the farmers' children have moved to the city. I have seen some kids around here help with the cattle ranches. We plan to get sheep and dogs, but it depends on our financial situation.
Unfortunately, our land flooded recently so my husband had to move to a spot with higher elevation to start building our house.
A guy from my parish went to the NY one. He is working to get a chapter going in NH. We have a signal chat of NH land movement folks. I raised, slaughtered and butchered two pigs myself last year. I’m doing 4 this year and thought about opening harvest day up to other catholic folks to see the process. But I think I would be just too stressed out as it is. I love that this movement is building. Putting it into action seems impossible sometimes. 5 kids under 8, really tough land, full time job with commute and Mass an hour away (essentially leaving only 1 day to work the homestead). I thought Fr. McNabbs book “ the church and the land” to be extremely profound and prophetic.We have the same issue though we have 3 boys under 5. There isn't really much time to do much planting ourselves and animals come out of the woods and eat most of what we plant. :facepalm:
Sounds like you need a co-op of the local trads to get together occasionally and help people set up their garden and accomplish any other big works (fixing/ building things, occasional garden weeding/pest control/harvesting when the work piles up, ect. I'd be happy to tour around and help in such ways if I had the resources, but I'm just 1 guy. When are people going to learn that getting to heaven and raising children is a group effort that goes beyond each individual household. There may be some single parishioners who are well off money wise if they could live cheaply and do their part of sharing what they can. We need priests to get fired up and preach on this to the point people get serious about helping each other.