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Offline Miser Peccator

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Catholic Land Movement
« on: June 02, 2022, 08:06:37 AM »
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  • I don't know anything about this particular group or their brand of trad, but this looks like a good idea.

    Has anybody organized one of these in your area?

    https://catholiclandmovement.info/





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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #1 on: June 02, 2022, 08:14:22 AM »
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  • Also there are probably Catholic homesteaders who are overwhelmed or want to expand to more animals and crops but can't manage it.

    Perhaps they would allow a family to park a trailer home on their land in exchange for labor.

    Of course if somebody were to make this agreement they would want a written contract.  It wouldn't need to be fancy lawyer jargon but clearly written and signed with the agreement it can be renegotiated and amended at times.

    There should be a network for Catholic homesteaders if there isn't one already.

    Homesteaders could also set up barter agreements where one family does dairy, another does pigs, another does vegetables etc.



    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #2 on: June 02, 2022, 08:33:10 AM »
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  • Now the one in New York comes with a disclaimer, unfortunately. Fine print, if you will.

    https://www.ourladyofmartyrsshrine.org/mass-schedule

    The shrine does say the Novus Ordo as well as the Latin Mass. A lot of people here would find that unacceptable.
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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #3 on: June 02, 2022, 08:44:06 AM »
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  • Now the one in New York comes with a disclaimer, unfortunately. Fine print, if you will.

    https://www.ourladyofmartyrsshrine.org/mass-schedule

    The shrine does say the Novus Ordo as well as the Latin Mass. A lot of people here would find that unacceptable.

    Of course, but that's not the point.

    I'm not promoting them, specifically.

    It's the idea of getting one started in your neck of the woods before the next lockdown and possible highway checkpoints etc.

    Many people want to homestead but don't know how or where to start.

    These are some ideas on how you might escape the smart cities and get started with people who share your brand of trad.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #4 on: June 02, 2022, 06:56:19 PM »
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  • Also there are probably Catholic homesteaders who are overwhelmed or want to expand to more animals and crops but can't manage it.

    Perhaps they would allow a family to park a trailer home on their land in exchange for labor.

    Of course if somebody were to make this agreement they would want a written contract.  It wouldn't need to be fancy lawyer jargon but clearly written and signed with the agreement it can be renegotiated and amended at times.

    There should be a network for Catholic homesteaders if there isn't one already.

    Homesteaders could also set up barter agreements where one family does dairy, another does pigs, another does vegetables etc.

    That ia the situation I am in. Land but not enough hands to work it. Wish it was easier to network: would easily allow a trailer, bunk house or whatever. There are a couple of people I have considered but (right now) I only know those people online. No one has approached me at my Chapel about it  but I am VERY quiet there :cowboy:

    That organization being Indult is really a killer though. Big oof.
    Regard all of my posts as unfounded slander, heresy, theologically specious etc
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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #5 on: June 02, 2022, 10:53:28 PM »
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  • I remember (about 60 years ago) my own father making investigations and study of this issue. There was to be a project of some sort established in the Diocese of Wagga Wagga under church auspices.


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    In Wagga in 1956 there were 38 groups, mostly because of the influence of Bishop Henschke. 3



    Both my parents were country-born who had moved to Sydney in the youth, with their families.

    This is a thesis based on these endeavours

    https://eprints.utas.edu.au/20338/1/whole_MaddenKathy1995_thesis.pdf
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #6 on: June 02, 2022, 11:19:37 PM »
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  • Another doc from

    The National Catholic Rural Movement, 1939-1955

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    Ayers, T. (1986). The National Catholic Rural Movement, 1939-1955. Honours thesis, Arts, The University of Melbourne.

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    © 1986 Tony Ayers

    Abstract
    It is now over forty years since the National Catholic Rural Movement (N.C.R.M.) began. On its inception in 1939 the ‘Movement’ became the first group established by the Australian National Secretariat of Catholic Action (A.N.S.C.A.), itself established only two years earlier in 1937. Adopting the motto “To Restore Christ to the Countryside ... and the Countryside to Christ” the NCRM embarked upon the promotion of a range of policies – from co-operative to Independent Farming, from the improvement of entertainment in rural homes to better prices for the small producer – amongst the Catholic farming community, farmers’ organizations and government. At the height of its popularity in the mid-forties the NCRM could claim a membership in excess of 5000 with groups in every State of Australia, excepting Tasmania and the Northern Territory. With its formative years occurring between two major phases of Australia’s development as an industrial economy, the 1920s and the late 1940s/early 1950s, the NCRM stated its purpose unequivocally as being ‘to restore and develop agriculture as the central institution of national life’. This thesis examines the first sixteen critical years of history and the many paradoxes intrinsic to its project. (From Introduction)

    https://minerva-access.unimelb.edu.au/items/6a652774-e493-5453-b2f7-32f50f800481

    Bolding is mine.

    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #7 on: June 02, 2022, 11:31:18 PM »
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  • Catholic Rural Life (CRL) has a rich history spanning 98 years. The organization, originally called National Catholic Rural Life Conference (NCRLC), has spent decades dedicating hard work and prayer to promoting Catholic life in rural America.

    https://catholicrurallife.org/about/history/
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #8 on: June 03, 2022, 09:44:05 AM »
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  • I have an "office" job, but I also have land that I cultivate and from which I obtain almonds, tangerines, grapes, olives, onions, melons and barbary figs. I get eggs from a neighbor.

    It's enough to work Saturday and Sunday afternoons. Can be combined with normal job.

    I also collect rainwater through a... cistern?  It's like this:




    But mine is bigger.

    The field is about half an hour's drive from my house more or less.

    But I don't see it viable to live of the field. They pay very little and you need large tracts of land with machinery for it.

    Also you still depend on being in the system to sell and buy things, when the time comes they can cut you off, and also the police can come at any time if you are out of the system.

    This can serve to survive if there is a famine or they don't let me buy food, but if there is an open persecution I won't escape martyrdom

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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #9 on: June 03, 2022, 11:46:39 AM »
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  • I remember (about 60 years ago) my own father making investigations and study of this issue. There was to be a project of some sort established in the Diocese of Wagga Wagga under church auspices.




    Both my parents were country-born who had moved to Sydney in the youth, with their families.

    This is a thesis based on these endeavours

    https://eprints.utas.edu.au/20338/1/whole_MaddenKathy1995_thesis.pdf

    Thanks for sharing those wonderful docuмents!

    Perhaps there will be a Catholic remnant who revives this culture.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #10 on: June 03, 2022, 11:52:08 AM »
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  • I have an "office" job, but I also have land that I cultivate and from which I obtain almonds, tangerines, grapes, olives, onions, melons and barbary figs. I get eggs from a neighbor.

    It's enough to work Saturday and Sunday afternoons. Can be combined with normal job.

    I also collect rainwater through a... cistern?  It's like this:




    But mine is bigger.

    The field is about half an hour's drive from my house more or less.

    But I don't see it viable to live of the field. They pay very little and you need large tracts of land with machinery for it.

    Also you still depend on being in the system to sell and buy things, when the time comes they can cut you off, and also the police can come at any time if you are out of the system.

    This can serve to survive if there is a famine or they don't let me buy food, but if there is an open persecution I won't escape martyrdom

    That sounds like a good set up.

    Of course, with all of their weaponry there is no place that is completely safe.

    But that is true in every season.

    After all, we could die in a car accident or slip in the tub today.

    God's will be done.

    I guess we just have to weigh what will give us the best chances at survival.

    Once digital ID's are in place, the smart cities will be a virtual prison complex.

    Hopefully a remnant will manage to survive with God's protection in the country.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #11 on: June 03, 2022, 12:03:21 PM »
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  • Catholic Rural Life (CRL) has a rich history spanning 98 years. The organization, originally called National Catholic Rural Life Conference (NCRLC), has spent decades dedicating hard work and prayer to promoting Catholic life in rural America.

    https://catholicrurallife.org/about/history/
    Very weird that Vatican II wiped that out CRL in local rural areas and punished children who worked on farms or family owned businesses.  The corrupt diocese dumped the lazy pedophile priests who drank and pushed theatre.  Source of truth is bishop accountability.org.   
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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #12 on: June 03, 2022, 09:40:26 PM »
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  • I have an "office" job, but I also have land that I cultivate and from which I obtain almonds, tangerines, grapes, olives, onions, melons and barbary figs. I get eggs from a neighbor.

    It's enough to work Saturday and Sunday afternoons. Can be combined with normal job.

    I also collect rainwater through a... cistern?  It's like this:




    But mine is bigger.

    The field is about half an hour's drive from my house more or less.

    But I don't see it viable to live of the field. They pay very little and you need large tracts of land with machinery for it.

    Also you still depend on being in the system to sell and buy things, when the time comes they can cut you off, and also the police can come at any time if you are out of the system.

    This can serve to survive if there is a famine or they don't let me buy food, but if there is an open persecution I won't escape martyrdom
    almonds, tangerines, grapes, olives, onions, melons and barbary figs, eggs, rainwater. Have you tried making wine. Keeps longer than grapes. In our neck of the woods barbary fig (prickly pear) is a prohibited invasive plant under the Biosecurity Act 2014, though the fruit can be purchased in big cetres.

    This looks a good balanced diet; as long as you can hold onto it in time of famine you'll do fine. Congratulations! 

    I knew an old Italian man who lived in the alps as a child and his family survived well on chestnuts and goat's milk. He live to a ripe old age and was strong as an ox though quite diminutive.   
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #13 on: June 04, 2022, 05:51:37 AM »
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  • Our family has been doing the "homestead" thing for a while now.  The best way to start is by picking one thing to work on at a time, rather than trying to do it all at once.  

    Some good authors of do-it-yourself books are John Seymour (or Seymore) and Carla Emery.  Of the 2, I think Emery has the most practical do-it-yourself book.  It's wonderful.  I've referred to it often over the years.


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    Re: Catholic Land Movement
    « Reply #14 on: June 08, 2022, 02:19:15 AM »
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  • almonds, tangerines, grapes, olives, onions, melons and barbary figs, eggs, rainwater. Have you tried making wine. Keeps longer than grapes. In our neck of the woods barbary fig (prickly pear) is a prohibited invasive plant under the Biosecurity Act 2014, though the fruit can be purchased in big cetres.

    This looks a good balanced diet; as long as you can hold onto it in time of famine you'll do fine. Congratulations!

    I knew an old Italian man who lived in the alps as a child and his family survived well on chestnuts and goat's milk. He live to a ripe old age and was strong as an ox though quite diminutive. 

    I have made vine a few times with a neighbor who has the machinery. I know how to do it, although I prefer beer. But yes, it's an option for the situation we are considering. 

    Here there isn't a problem with prickly pear, but of course it depends on the country, I live in the Southeast of Spain.

    I can't have animals because that requires going every day.