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Anyone following Elenin the 3 day darkness comet?
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2011, 01:44:18 PM »
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  • Because it seems, to me, like an excuse to "scoff". Ergo, not worthy of a response.

    Not speaking of Penitent in particular, but those with degrees seem to be more blind (more often than not) than those with no college education, or degrees in things like philosophy and the Liberal Arts.

    How many scientists believe in Evolution, and furthermore don't believe in the literal interpretation of Genesis? How many of them are good Catholics? All too few. (Again, I'd like to hope Penitent is one of these.)

    That is why I question the value of such higher learning, when it doesn't lead to a deeper love of God and the Catholic Faith. All too often, it doesn't.

    How many highly educated scientists see the big picture regarding the state of the world today? How many are aware -- or believe in -- the cօռspιʀαcιҽs of evil men which are making progress today? How many expect a major chastisement soon?

    All too few.

    If such is the case, then I question the value of such an education. And Penitent is the exception, not the rule.
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    « Reply #31 on: October 22, 2011, 11:19:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: Vladimir
    Quote from: Penitent
    I'm having trouble getting past the first paragraph of that PDF.  "...gravity doesn't really exist."  That's a new one on me.  

    Unfortunately the author does not cite any references for this claim. :scratchchin:  I'd like to check up on this idea.  Granted, it's been a while since I got my degree in physics, but I seem to remember that the Newtonian notion that objects attract each other directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them works really well.  I remember all those experiments with inclined planes, pendulums and projectiles.  9.8 meters per second squared = acceleration due to gravity on Earth is ingrained in my brain.  I'd really love to see it all explained through magnetism and air pressure.

    Until I am convinced that gravity doesn't exist, there's not much point in reading the rest of the PDF.  


    Why isn't anyone responding to this?


    Well, I can't respond to Penitent's post since I know very little about physics, but I'm also not going to swallow the statement that "gravity doesn't really exist".

    I guess we'll all find out what happens sooner or later when the end of the world comes for each of us.  I do hope though, that if the world comes to an end it doesn't scare the living daylights out of me and my loved ones.  I hope that we'll all be able to keep our wits about us and stay in union with Jesus and Mary.  

    I can spin my wheels trying to prepare in every conceivable way for the end of the world but if I don't stay in the state of grace and do my best to help my loved ones also stay in the state of grace, what does it profit me or them?  

    I hope the confession line isn't too long tomorrow morning.

    Good night and God bless you all, folks.


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    « Reply #32 on: October 23, 2011, 11:59:26 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    Because it seems, to me, like an excuse to "scoff". Ergo, not worthy of a response.

    Not speaking of Penitent in particular, but those with degrees seem to be more blind (more often than not) than those with no college education, or degrees in things like philosophy and the Liberal Arts.

    How many scientists believe in Evolution, and furthermore don't believe in the literal interpretation of Genesis? How many of them are good Catholics? All too few. (Again, I'd like to hope Penitent is one of these.)

    That is why I question the value of such higher learning, when it doesn't lead to a deeper love of God and the Catholic Faith. All too often, it doesn't.

    How many highly educated scientists see the big picture regarding the state of the world today? How many are aware -- or believe in -- the cօռspιʀαcιҽs of evil men which are making progress today? How many expect a major chastisement soon?

    All too few.

    If such is the case, then I question the value of such an education. And Penitent is the exception, not the rule.


    True in many (most) cases.

    But plugging in "9.81" to all my high school physics equations seemed to work! So it is a bit curious.




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    « Reply #33 on: October 23, 2011, 03:43:04 PM »
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  • I'd like to add something --

    Another thing that rubbed me wrong about the whole "scoffing" thing. It shows a rashness and arrogance to dismiss something just because of something on the cover, etc. and here's why:

    What man is perfect? What man possesses 100% of the truth? Don't even infidels have things to point out, things to teach you?

    What if the PDF in question IS mistaken about the theory of gravity, but he has other evidence to point out, which is proof of a DIFFERENT phenomenon, unrelated to Nibiru? Then later on you can take that evidence and use it to underpin something ELSE you read (let's call it Hypothesis B), to add more credence to Hypothesis B, even if the author of Hypothesis B is unaware of that bit of evidence!  

    For example, Alex Jones is a total "gatekeeper" -- he funnels the curious, those who know something is wrong with "the system" and keeps them in the dark about the MAJOR truths -- the Jєωs control of the financial system, the media, and the world in general, and how they created Communism and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ (among other things). But Alex Jones has a LOT of truths in his arsenal -- that which he dazzles people with, to get them to follow him. After all, truth has a way of being attractive. Our intellects seek out and latch on to that which is true, just as our Free Wills always seek out that which is good (having a fallen nature, we sometimes choose lesser goods, like tasting every food in the buffet, over greater goods, like eating in moderation)

    So a good Catholic can read Alex Jones and take away much truth, even as they go further on their own, and learn THE REST of the truth.

    Likewise, I learned a ton about the doctrine of Creation from Mr. Hovind, "Dr. Dino", who has a great website with free videos about the pre-flood earth, dinosaurs, how and why men used to live so long, etc. But he's a protestant preacher! As I've said a thousand times, if we restrict ourselves to traditional Catholics with whom we're in complete agreement, our bookshelf is going to be very, very empty!

    In short, it shows a lack of effort, or a lack of love for the truth, to immediately scoff at something which is so highly likely as a chastisement in the near future.

    I understand that we only have so much time, and that sometimes we MUST judge a book by its cover to decide what we're going to read, watch, etc. But I don't think information about Nibiru falls into the category of "to be ignored trash". There's too much there to dismiss the whole thing entirely. Best case scenario, the world just gets changed, but doesn't end, on or around Dec 21, 2012. The Mayans were able to understand/predict the movement of this celestial body. How many of us are -- with all our Google, gadgets, PCs, and so-called advanced learning? The Mayans had a "long count" calendar to track things that went WAY ABOVE their own generation -- time periods of centuries. That takes some vision.

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    « Reply #34 on: October 23, 2011, 03:56:24 PM »
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  • I find it curious that all of Ptolemy's math works to predict where every star will be on any given day, yet the educated scoff at his assertion that the Earth is the center of the Universe.

    Question, if they achieved the math through experimentation on gravity, would that prove that it is based on gravity? Would the pull of the earth due to magnetism not be the same as the pull of the supposed theory of the earth spinning around?

    For example, I take an apple and drop it from a tower, I track how fast it moves towards the earth? What did I really prove? I proved that it moves and speeds up towards the earth. I did not prove HOW it moves towards the earth, just that it does, and how fast it does.

    Correct?


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    « Reply #35 on: October 23, 2011, 03:59:59 PM »
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  • Just remember -- we're also taught in school that the sun is the center of the solar system, and that all planets revolve around it. But when it comes right down to it, all motion in space is relative and so you can ALSO consider the earth the center of the universe, and draw up DIFFERENT calculations that will also work. NASA uses geocentric (Earth-centric) calculations all the time.

    Of course if you throw a barbell in the air, it's going to come back down. But is it because of air pressure and magnetic fields, or some other force (which no one can photograph or weigh, I might point out) which we call "gravity"?
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    « Reply #36 on: October 23, 2011, 04:03:21 PM »
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  • LordPhan -- you posted essentially the same thing as me, at the same time :)

    Yes, you're on the right track. We haven't "proven" or photographed anything like gravity -- it's probably as mysterious as many other things in science, containing a level of mystery that scientists don't like to talk about.

    What scientist today fully understands even 1 atom?  Not a one.

    And if they don't FULLY understand everything about the atom, how can they claim any dogmas about how groups of them (i.e., objects) move toward other larger groups of them (i.e., planets)?

    If scientists truly understood atoms fully, we'd have things like transporters (like on Star Trek). But we don't.

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    « Reply #37 on: October 26, 2011, 01:17:41 AM »
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    And let's remember this isn't happening in a vacuum --

    Right now, October 2011, we have the SSPX about to "sell out" to Newrome, a worldwide Depression beginning, the collapse of the Euro, etc.

    These things don't take a Nostradamus to predict -- they're not matter for faith -- they're unfolding as we speak!

    So even if no planetary body were en-route about to wreak havoc on the Earth, we'd still have upheaval, revolution, etc. in about the same timeframe -- starting mid 2012.

    Why would a man max out his credit cards, running up $80,000 of debt -- unless he knew he only had 6 months to live anyhow (talking about non-Catholics here  :wink:)

    Likewise, the USA is postponing the inevitable as long as possible -- The Powers That Be would gladly exchange "consequences twice as bad" for another 2 months of "things as they are", or "consequences 100 times as bad" for another 6 months. WHY?  

    It's because they figure it won't matter after Nibiru shows up, that's why. They can't go into their bunkers and be among the sole survivors of the cataclysm if we rise up and start a revolution first, months before Nibiru makes its mark :)

    No bunker can keep out 10 million people with pitchforks out to get you -- know what I mean? This is what the Elites fear more than anything.

    So they'll run up a national debt of $150 Trillion if they have to -- just to keep things humming along more or less as normal.



    This is something I've been wondering for the past few weeks Matthew!

    Why is it that the Goverments are working so hard to implement NWO and all this stuff if its only going to get destroyed before they 'truly' accomplish it?!



    ps. I've also read in prophecies that after the 3 days of darkness, we return to a feudal age, there's no more technology and electricity, everything goes back to the better age. ? is this true? if so, their system is completely pointless so why do they persist?


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    « Reply #38 on: October 26, 2011, 09:59:07 AM »
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    Why is it that the Goverments are working so hard to implement NWO and all this stuff if its only going to get destroyed before they 'truly' accomplish it?!



    ps. I've also read in prophecies that after the 3 days of darkness, we return to a feudal age, there's no more technology and electricity, everything goes back to the better age. ? is this true? if so, their system is completely pointless so why do they persist?


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