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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Greater Depression - Chapter I => Topic started by: AMDGJMJ on March 06, 2025, 05:53:24 AM
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Great video about 25 food staples families grew during the Great Depression, many of which I had never really heard of until now.
https://youtu.be/5mEpiqw7Yho?si=oiyE-wHao0vVaaqh (https://youtu.be/5mEpiqw7Yho?si=oiyE-wHao0vVaaqh)
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I'll watch this when I get home from work.
A lesser known vegetable that I love to grow is the Jerusalem artichoke. Very easy to grow and always get good results.
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Truly an excellent video worth the watching by any "prepper" gardener:
rutabagas
mangelwurzel
salsify
Jerusalem artichokes
winter radishes (daikon)
parsnips
Hamburg rooted parsley
turnips
collards
swiss chard
winter cabbage (Danish ballhead)
navy beans
Kentucky wonder pole beans
ground cherries
field peas
field corn
storage onions
cardoons
skirret
good King Henry
American ground nut
runner beans
dandelion
lambs quarters
sea kale
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Thanks for posting the video! Some sources for the mentioned vegetable seeds/tubers:
https://www.restorationseeds.com/
https://www.nativeseeds.org/
https://victoryseeds.com/
https://territorialseed.com/
https://trueleafmarket.com/
https://www.rareseeds.com/
For a couple of the really oddball varieties, I had to resort to Amazon.
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Not sure why the vid is entitled "forgotten vegetables,"... my dad still grows in his garden about 2/3 of those identified.
Now, if you really want to know of a "forgotten" food eaten during the great depression, read about Purslane (see below articles). This plant grows like a weed on my dad's farm, and it is nearly impervious to chemicals and/or being pulled up by the root but let on the ground... it simply will not die. Growing up, these were everywhere, and until just recently, after my dad told me, I had no idea that they were collected and eaten during tough times.
https://marybarrettdyer.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-weed-our-ancestors-ate-in-tough.html
https://www.thegardenofeating.org/2014/08/purslane.html
Another "weed" that has really good herbal qualities is the dandelion. Not the flower itself (but you can eat them,I think), but the leaves. My father-in-law was visiting us, and he pointed to all the dandelions in my yard, and said you should collect them and make tea out of them. I had no idea what he was talking about. I then ask my wife, and she shows me some packets of tea she had purchased in S.America, and sure enough, it was dried dandelion leaf. We'd been drinking it for years and I had no idea that we could have just harvested it from my front yard.
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Not sure why the vid is entitled "forgotten vegetables,"... my dad still grows in his garden about 2/3 of those identified.
Now, if you really want to know of a "forgotten" food eaten during the great depression, read about Purslane (see below articles). This plant grows like a weed on my dad's farm, and it is nearly impervious to chemicals and/or being pulled up by the root but let on the ground... it simply will not die. Growing up, these were everywhere, and until just recently, after my dad told me, I had no idea that they were collected and eaten during tough times.
https://marybarrettdyer.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-weed-our-ancestors-ate-in-tough.html
https://www.thegardenofeating.org/2014/08/purslane.html
Another "weed" that has really good herbal qualities is the dandelion. Not the flower itself (but you can eat them,I think), but the leaves. My father-in-law was visiting us, and he pointed to all the dandelions in my yard, and said you should collect them and make tea out of them. I had no idea what he was talking about. I then ask my wife, and she shows me some packets of tea she had purchased in S.America, and sure enough, it was dried dandelion leaf. We'd been drinking it for years and I had no idea that we could have just harvested it from my front yard.
Thanks for the links.
I think that many of the "forgotten" veggies are not so much forgotten as they are no longer admired on the American palate due to the sad state of store-bought veggies. A few of them did really got me: skirret, Good King Henry, and American ground nut. Never heard of those. Mangelwurzel got me until I found it; it's just a giant beet varietal.
I used to exclusively grow ornamentals (roses, dahlias, and rhododendrons), but started to branch out into veggies. On a whim I tried a variety of Japanese heirloom turnips, tennouji kabura, that so shocked me with its sweet nutty flavor that I explored lots of items that I had previously eschewed because the store-bought items were unpalatable.… turnips, beets, rutabagas, parsnips… It really opened my eyes (and palate) to revisit veggies that I had long before rejected. My cookbook shelf began to accuмulate veggie cookbooks.
In addition to the links I posted above, here are some specialty sources that I have been pleased to use:
https://www.delectationoftomatoes.com/
https://tatianastomatobase.com/seed-catalog/html/
https://pepperjoe.com/
https://www.sandiaseed.com/ (peppers)
Kitazawa Seed that previously provided me Japanese specialties, like the tennouji kabura turnips mentioned above, was sold to TrueLeaf by the third-generation heirs. (True Leaf link above).
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Just reposting the link without the share tracking info so we can watch it on the forum:
https://youtu.be/5mEpiqw7Yho
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Beef Butter Bacon Eggs
Fish for lent and fridays
Veggies are a waste of money and of time
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Vegetables contain vitamins, antioxidants, and other beneficial chemicals.
Roughage, the indigestible (for humans) cell wall component of vegetables, decreases colon cancer and diverticulitis risk.
Year 'round. Every day.
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Vegetables contain vitamins, antioxidants, and other beneficial chemicals.
Roughage, the indigestible (for humans) cell wall component of vegetables, decreases colon cancer and diverticulitis risk.
Year 'round. Every day.
Vegetables contain antinutrients .
fiber rots in your colon, and destroys nutrients while it is at it.
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Let's compare notes in 70 years.
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Predestination sez:
Vegetables contain antinutrients .
fiber rots in your colon, and destroys nutrients while it is at it.
God says:
And God said: Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat… Genesis 1:29
And every thing that moveth and liveth shall be meat for you: even as the green herbs have I delivered them all to you…. Genesis 9:3
From the very beginning God created us to be omnivores.
Opposing God, even on dietary matters, is a doomed plan.
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Predestination sez:
God says:
From the very beginning God created us to be omnivores.
Opposing God, even on dietary matters, is a doomed plan.
Plants now are very different from, plants then, nearly all pre modern cultures cooked and lactofermented plants as much as they could.
just because God has given us the ability to eat plants that doesn’t mean we have to eat plants
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Plants now are very different from, plants then, nearly all pre modern cultures cooked and lactofermented plants as much as they could.…
I am not alone in cooking and fermenting vegetables. Virtually every culture today still does so.
In fact, because of the gut microbiome phenomenon, I focused a good part of my recent two month Asian trip pursuing and exploring regional fermented foods, including both vegetable and meat items. The gamut spanned natto (fermented soybeans) in Sapporo, plaa ra (fermented fish) and som tam (fermented unripe mango) in Udon Thani, puu khai dong (fermented crab roe) in Bang Na, and hoy nangrom (oysters) with SCOBY (Symbiotic Culture Of Bacteria and Yeast) in Phuket. I even had a few juice blends and even cocktails that used fermented herbs.
So, whether raw, cooked, or fermented, I see no rational "difference" that gives us license to nullify God's provision of vegetables for us as food.
Of course, I eschew GMO vegetables. Unnatural genetic modification is, to my thinking, "playing God."
just because God has given us the ability to eat plants that doesn’t mean we have to eat plants
You have it ass-backwards.
Precisely because God explicitly gave us vegetables to eat them, we should neither condemn them nor eschew them in our diets.
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Just reposting the link without the share tracking info so we can watch it on the forum:
https://youtu.be/5mEpiqw7Yho
Oh! Thank you for that! :cowboy:
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I am not alone in cooking and fermenting vegetables. Virtually every culture today still does so.
In fact, because of the gut microbiome phenomenon, I focused a good part of my recent two month Asian trip pursuing and exploring regional fermented foods, including both vegetable and meat items. The gamut spanned natto (fermented soybeans) in Sapporo, plaa ra (fermented fish) and som tam (fermented unripe mango) in Udon Thani, puu khai dong (fermented crab roe) in Bang Na, and hoy nangrom (oysters) with SCOBY (Symbiotic Culture Of Bacteria and Yeast) in Phuket. I even had a few juice blends and even cocktails that used fermented herbs.
So, whether raw, cooked, or fermented, I see no rational "difference" that gives us license to nullify God's provision of vegetables for us as food.
Of course, I eschew GMO vegetables. Unnatural genetic modification is, to my thinking, "playing God."
You have it ass-backwards.
Precisely because God explicitly gave us vegetables to eat them, we should neither condemn them nor eschew them in our diets.
This reminds me of the story of Daniel in the Bible and how he and the other young men who lived off of "pulse" and refused to eat contaminated meat were seen to be stronger and in better shape than those who did after a period of time. :popcorn:
There are SO MANY vitamins in vegetables and fruits! A balanced diet definitely seems crucial to good health. So many people don't realize that they are deficient in particular vitamins and minerals until they start taking them and realize the difference. :cowboy:
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This reminds me of the story of Daniel in the Bible and how he and the other young men who lived off of "pulse" and refused to eat contaminated meat were seen to be stronger and in better shape than those who did after a period of time. :popcorn:
There are SO MANY vitamins in vegetables and fruits! A balanced diet definitely seems crucial to good health. So many people don't realize that they are deficient in particular vitamins and minerals until they start taking them and realize the difference. :cowboy:
Daniel 1:11-15:
And Daniel said to Malasar, whom the prince of the eunuchs had appointed over Daniel, Ananias, Misael, and Azarias: Try, I beseech thee, thy servants for ten days, and let pulse be given us to eat, and water to drink: And look upon our faces, and the faces of the children that eat of the king's meat: and as thou shalt see, deal with thy servants. And when he had heard these words, he tried them for ten days. And after ten days their faces appeared fairer and fatter than all the children that ate of the king's meat.
And, of course there are also the loaves and fishes (omnivores) of Matthew 14 and Luke 9.
"I am the bread of life" (John 6:48) is a passage laden with meaning and certainly mitigates against excluding vegetables (wheat) from our mortal and spiritual lives.
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I will say that eating greens can make breath smell literally like crap, and the acids in the leaves probably isn't good for teeth.
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I grow jerusalem artichokes ( it's actually hard NOT to grow them- In fact they will take over the garden if you let them) . When the Bolsheviks took every last potato from the Ukrainians in the great starvation of the early 1920's, many people survived on them because the Bolsheviks thought they were just weeds.
They are the most nutritious food, high caloric content for survival ( but a bit gassy)
Storage is a little difficult but can remain in the ground until late fall until you are ready to use them. Also you can dig them up and store them in damp sand and they will last for the year. I have them in buckets in the basement. you can boil them ,bake them mash them and dry them for chips.