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Re: Why Sungenis's Geocentrism model is wrong
« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2017, 03:02:36 AM »
Fisheyes make straight lines curved.
So, you're saying the horizon line in the photo is actually straight, in reality.
Which it actually is, of course - that's why it is called a horizon, because it IS horizontal.
A fisheye effect working against a curve would have the effect of leveling the curve. Look at the panning sections, clarity visible distortion is taking place.

Re: Why Sungenis's Geocentrism model is wrong
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2017, 01:21:34 PM »
mw2016

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If you take the figure that Sungenis, Fr. P. and cassini accept for the distance to the sun, of 93 million miles, then one can calculate the distance the sun must travel going around the earth in a single 24 hour day.
If earth is center, and the radius of this circuit (R) is the distance of 93 million miles, we can calculate the circuмference (C).
The equation is C = 2 x pi x R
C = 2 x 3.14 x 93 million miles
C = 584 million miles
584 million miles per day/ 24 hours in a day = 24.3 million MPH (speed of the sun)
Does ANYONE here really believe the sun is moving at an eye-watering speed of 24.3 million MPH around the earth every day?
Actually, the speed you refer to here is child's play for one who truly understands astrophysics and hence how it is possible astrophysics wise for the entire universe to go around the Earth every 24 hours.

For all of you non-science types out there let's skip the science for a second and just perform a rather simple thought experiment.  I don't imagine that anyone familiar with a basketball would try to argue that it is impossible for it to make one complete rotation within, well let's say 24 hours.  Obviously we know it could do that in 24 seconds and even a good deal less than 24 seconds.  After all, seeing is believing right?  Well, let's imagine now that you were of the smallest theoretical -- according to science (OK, sorry I had to mention it) -- size, i.e., Planck Length.  If we assign a size of 10 to the power of 0 for a full grown human, the Planck Length would be 10 to the power of negative 35 and the size of the known universe would be 10 to the power of 27.  Earth would be 10 to the power of 7.

You can play around with these sizes and a whole lot more using the model shown here: http://htwins.net/scale2/
In my thought experiment we have two little fellows reduced to the size of Planck Length or perhaps the size of a proton or neutron at the size of ten to the negative 15 or a neutrino at 10 to the negative 24, or smaller yet a quark at 10 to the negative 22 and they are placed inside a twirling basketball or shall we say at the very center of our Earth (which is ten to the power 7).  Since they are so small they can only observe the outer limits of the basketball or the Earth and thus they believe it to be the outer limits of the known universe.  Now, let's listen in on their discussion.  One is arguing vehemently that it is absolutely absurd to even imagine that the universe they observe could be rotating around them every 24 hours while the other one calmly retorts that it is perfectly possible.

God looks down upon our tiny beings and certainly hears our back and forth discussions on geocentrism vs. heliocentrism.  Since God is eternally omnipotent He could certainly create a universe that goes around the Earth once every 24 hours.  If he wanted to He could have the universe going around the Earth a million or a billion times every 24 hours for that matter.  No problem!



Re: Why Sungenis's Geocentrism model is wrong
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2017, 02:18:01 PM »
A fisheye effect working against a curve would have the effect of leveling the curve. Look at the panning sections, clarity visible distortion is taking place.
Oh. My. Goodness.  This is the effect of imprecision fostered in those who live on a globe.  They have no foundation and what is level is curved for them and their up is often also down.  They say all manner of things contradictory like this.  Fisheye lenses necessarily do not correct, but distort for the purposes of gaining more view.  Fisheye lenses do not level the curve, but permit a level to be seen only when viewing directly straight on.  Rather, fisheyes have been used for many years in order to curve the level.  Earth is not a globe.  

Re: Why Sungenis's Geocentrism model is wrong
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2017, 02:26:25 PM »
mw2016
Actually, the speed you refer to here is child's play for one who truly understands astrophysics and hence how it is possible astrophysics wise for the entire universe to go around the Earth every 24 hours.

For all of you non-science types out there let's skip the science for a second and just perform a rather simple thought experiment.  I don't imagine that anyone familiar with a basketball would try to argue that it is impossible for it to make one complete rotation within, well let's say 24 hours.  Obviously we know it could do that in 24 seconds and even a good deal less than 24 seconds.  After all, seeing is believing right?  Well, let's imagine now that you were of the smallest theoretical -- according to science (OK, sorry I had to mention it) -- size, i.e., Planck Length.  If we assign a size of 10 to the power of 0 for a full grown human, the Planck Length would be 10 to the power of negative 35 and the size of the known universe would be 10 to the power of 27.  Earth would be 10 to the power of 7.

You can play around with these sizes and a whole lot more using the model shown here: http://htwins.net/scale2/
In my thought experiment we have two little fellows reduced to the size of Planck Length or perhaps the size of a proton or neutron at the size of ten to the negative 15 or a neutrino at 10 to the negative 24, or smaller yet a quark at 10 to the negative 22 and they are placed inside a twirling basketball or shall we say at the very center of our Earth (which is ten to the power 7).  Since they are so small they can only observe the outer limits of the basketball or the Earth and thus they believe it to be the outer limits of the known universe.  Now, let's listen in on their discussion.  One is arguing vehemently that it is absolutely absurd to even imagine that the universe they observe could be rotating around them every 24 hours while the other one calmly retorts that it is perfectly possible.

God looks down upon our tiny beings and certainly hears our back and forth discussions on geocentrism vs. heliocentrism.  Since God is eternally omnipotent He could certainly create a universe that goes around the Earth once every 24 hours.  If he wanted to He could have the universe going around the Earth a million or a billion times every 24 hours for that matter.  No problem!

Another ridiculous notion: God can do anything... so He does the ridiculous.  The extremes global earth defenders go to maintain the pagan theory of heliocentrism is an embarrassment--to them.  Scripture, the saints and the Church, not to mention the reverse testimony of the pagans, teach that earth is not a globe.    


Re: Why Sungenis's Geocentrism model is wrong
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2017, 05:51:38 PM »