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Offline mw2016

Why Sungenis's Geocentrism model is wrong
« on: March 28, 2017, 12:35:32 AM »
I'm going to demonstrate in one simple math calculation why Robert Sungenis's, Fr. Pfeiffer's, and cassini's version of geocentrism is wrong - and simultaneously prove why the flat earth model is correct.

First: All three - Sungenis, Fr. Pfeiffer, and cassini - hold the Bible to be true and correct where it states that the earth DOES NOT MOVE. 

See: 1 Chronicles 16:30, Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5 Isaiah 45:18.
Since they hold that the earth does not move, this means the earth can neither travel in a circuit around the sun, nor does it rotate on its axis.
However, this creates a little problem: the heliocentric model states that day/night is caused by the earth rotating on its axis. If there is no movement of earth, because it is stationary and unmoving according to the Bible, then this means there can be no rotation.
So only the sun can be in motion.
Therefore, in order for us to have day and night, the sun would have to go around the earth:
 ONCE EVERY 24 HOURS.
If you take the figure that Sungenis, Fr. P. and cassini accept for the distance to the sun, of 93 million miles, then one can calculate the distance the sun must travel going around the earth in a single 24 hour day.
If earth is center, and the radius of this circuit (R) is the distance of 93 million miles, we can calculate the circuмference (C).
The equation is C = 2 x pi x R
C = 2 x 3.14 x 93 million miles
C = 584 million miles
584 million miles per day/ 24 hours in a day = 24.3 million MPH (speed of the sun)
Does ANYONE here really believe the sun is moving at an eye-watering speed of 24.3 million MPH around the earth every day?
Because that is what the math gives you, if you partially adhere to the Bible's stationary geocentrism, while simultaneously trying to adhere to NASA and heliocentrism's distance of the sun being 93 million miles from earth.

Therefore, the Bible is correct. The earth is a flat, stationary plain, and the sun is rotating above it in a circuit every 24 hours.
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Offline noOneImportant

Re: Why Sungenis's Geocentrism model is wrong
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2017, 01:07:47 AM »
"Prove":
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Offline Nadir

Re: Why Sungenis's Geocentrism model is wrong
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2017, 01:11:34 AM »
I've not taken much interest in this topic and have not read much of what has been said about it. But I do know that the sun rises approximately every 24 hours period. And depending on the time of the year and the location, for me the sun is visible for anything from 10 to 14+ hours. In other words the sun disappears on a daily basis. 

Pardon my ignorance but, earth being the centre of the circle, does the circuмference, and hence the sun, pass below the flat stationary plain which is the earth?

You say the sun is rotating above it in a circuit every 24 hours. Why is it then that the sun disappears from sight?

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Does ANYONE here really believe the sun is moving at an eye-watering speed of 24.3 million MPH around the earth every day?
I tend to take figures like 93,000,000 miles distance from earth to sun with a pinch of salt, and wonder on what premise these statements are made. But I couldn't argue that they are wrong.
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Offline Truth is Eternal

Re: Why Sungenis's Geocentrism model is wrong
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2017, 10:34:32 AM »
Quote from: Nadir on March 28, 2017, 01:11:34 AM
I've not taken much interest in this topic and have not read much of what has been said about it. But I do know that the sun rises approximately every 24 hours period. And depending on the time of the year and the location, for me the sun is visible for anything from 10 to 14+ hours. In other words the sun disappears on a daily basis.

Pardon my ignorance but, earth being the centre of the circle, does the circuмference, and hence the sun, pass below the flat stationary plain which is the earth?

You say the sun is rotating above it in a circuit every 24 hours. Why is it then that the sun disappears from sight?
I tend to take figures like 93,000,000 miles distance from earth to sun with a pinch of salt, and wonder on what premise these statements are made. But I couldn't argue that they are wrong.
The Sun Never Sets On The Flat Earth

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Offline SoldierOfChrist

Re: Why Sungenis's Geocentrism model is wrong
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2017, 12:06:06 PM »
I think 'move' here means change place; not change position.  The blood moves through your veins, but when you're standing in place we say that you haven't moved.  But blood moved through your veins, your organs might have shifted positions, maybe you even jumped up and down and turned around.  There is still a sense in which we could say that you haven't moved.
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