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Why Do Periscope Views Hide the Lower Hull of Distant Ships?
« on: February 17, 2018, 09:58:38 PM »
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Why periscope viewer images? 
Because periscopes have excellent optics and unsurpassed telescope clarity.
The precision of the image in a periscope can make or break the safety of the whole submarine.
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JFK - before Nov. 22nd 1963
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Who's the first flat-earther to impute these are fake images?

Re: Why Do Periscope Views Hide the Lower Hull of Distant Ships?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2018, 11:05:38 PM »
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Notice how broad and obvious the water surface is close to the periscope.
The water almost seems to be sloping downward toward the viewer.
But we all know that water doesn't do that.
What we are seeing is the effect of the telephoto lens.
It's even more dramatic with binocular view, which some periscopes have.
The farther away an object is, the more compressed in depth it gets (close to far).
The curvature of the earth is reproduced in the curvature of the surface of the sea.
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These images are under tremendous magnification by telescope.
The distance near-to-far is greatly compressed.
Therefore we can see the effect of the sea's curvature in the distance.
The view from left to right is not subject to the same effects of magnification.
This is because from the viewer to the target ship is several miles,
whereas from left to right is only a half mile.
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The lowest 10 feet of this target ship above the waterline is obscured by the curvature of the sea.
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This ship being torpedoed appears to be setting at the edge of the world. 
There is utterly no water behind the ship and the lower pat of the hull is invisible.
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The massive IJN Shokaku aircraft carrier was sunk by the American 

submarine USS Cavalla on June 19th, 1944.
  
845 feet in length,  beam 85 feet, draught 29 feet and 25,675 tons in weight.
That's like 3 football fields of ship.
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With the huge expanse of water close to the periscope and height fading to nothing at the target range,
it is readily seen that it is the downward curve of the water surface over great distance
that explains why we see no water beyond the target ship.
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If the earth were "flat" we would see a lot more water in the distance
and the horizon line would be well up into the hull area of this sinking ship.
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But since the sea curves downward into the distance we don't see that at all.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Why Do Periscope Views Hide the Lower Hull of Distant Ships?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2018, 11:25:22 AM »
Uhm, have you ever heard of waves?

It all depends on how high the periscope is above the water vs. wave conditions (where the observer and target are in relation to one another and with respect the wave conditions).  Since we know nothing about the conditions (height of periscope and the height of waves) ... these pictures prove nothing.  Some of your pictures DO show the bottom of the ship's hull.

Neil, I'm open to proofs of globe earth, as I am currently undecided about this issue, but this is simply not proof of any kind.  I've seen lots of pictures that were purportedly taken from a great distance where the entire craft was still visible when much of it should have disappeared behind earth curvature.  I'm not ruling out that they were faked somehow or doctored or the distance mis-reported.  But I've seen enough of these that I remain open about flat earth.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Why Do Periscope Views Hide the Lower Hull of Distant Ships?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2018, 11:26:52 AM »
Since I'm undecided, I am in the process of objectively deciding between the two sides.  I've seen some good points and some very unconvincing arguments from both sides.

Maybe I'll put together a little spreadsheet-like layout of the different arguments on both sides.

Re: Why Do Periscope Views Hide the Lower Hull of Distant Ships?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2018, 05:04:52 PM »