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Offline Always

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Either more aesthetically pleasing, i.e., more beautiful?
« on: June 29, 2023, 06:27:14 PM »
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    • Globe or Flat Earth?  This jewel at the center of the universe!
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Either more aesthetically pleasing, i.e., more beautiful?
    « Reply #1 on: June 29, 2023, 08:36:35 PM »
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    • False dichotomy.  World is spherical in shape and at the center of the universe, even though the surface that we walk on is flat.

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    Re: Either more aesthetically pleasing, i.e., more beautiful?
    « Reply #2 on: June 30, 2023, 02:58:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 29, 2023, 08:36:35 PM
    False dichotomy.  World is spherical in shape and at the center of the universe, even though the surface that we walk on is flat.



    After reviewing the standard definitions of a false dichotomy.I don't believe I set out a false dichotomy, but I will certainly give the question more consideration if Cassini, for example, agrees with you. 

     My question simply refers to a globe earth (just the globe earth itself) vs. a flat earth (just the flat earth itself); not to a globe earth surrounded by anything else (although it obviously is) vs. a flat earth surrounded by anything else (although it obviously is).
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    Re: Either more aesthetically pleasing, i.e., more beautiful?
    « Reply #3 on: June 30, 2023, 08:06:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: Always on June 30, 2023, 02:58:55 AM
    After reviewing the standard definitions of a false dichotomy.I don't believe I set out a false dichotomy, but I will certainly give the question more consideration if Cassini, for example, agrees with you.

     My question simply refers to a globe earth (just the globe earth itself) vs. a flat earth (just the flat earth itself); not to a globe earth surrounded by anything else (although it obviously is) vs. a flat earth surrounded by anything else (although it obviously is).

    I wasn't debating Flat Earth just your question about aesthetics.  What I said was a false dichotomy was between flat and spherical, because flat earth model actually holds the world overall to be spherical.  Aesthetically, I find the picture above MUCH more aesthetically pleasing than the notion of a ball floating in space.  In the ball model, where's Heaven?, where's the Throne of God?  Where did Our Lord ascend to?  Into space?  Did He merely feign the appearance of an ascent due to the ignorance of the masses, when He was really just sliding into a different dimension?  Or did He keep flying through space until He got to Heaven, wherever that is?  Ascent into Heaven and Descent into Hell become strange notions on a ball, since there is not real "up" or "down", but moving outward and inward.
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    Re: Either more aesthetically pleasing, i.e., more beautiful?
    « Reply #4 on: June 30, 2023, 04:51:50 PM »
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    • Truth is always aesthetically pleasing. Back when I bought the globe earth lies, I looked up at the night sky and felt confused because I didn't feel like I was on a spinning ball, spnning around the sun, spinning around the solar system, spinning around the galaxy. And "gravity" didn't make any sense.

    When I woke up to the Sun-worshipping, Freemasonic basis of Heliocentric globe earth, I changed to Geocentric. However it was only when an open mind, exploration of the facts, and the courage to not care about called crazy led me to the inexcapable truth of FE.

    I am down here and Almighty God and His heavenly court are up there in heaven.
    Hell is beneath our feet.
    The Bible is right. There is a firmament.
    Water is flat. Water seeks its own level.
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    Re: Either more aesthetically pleasing, i.e., more beautiful?
    « Reply #5 on: June 30, 2023, 05:51:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 30, 2023, 08:06:33 AM
    I wasn't debating Flat Earth just your question about aesthetics.  What I said was a false dichotomy was between flat and spherical, because flat earth model actually holds the world overall to be spherical.  Aesthetically, I find the picture above MUCH more aesthetically pleasing than the notion of a ball floating in space.  In the ball model, where's Heaven?, where's the Throne of God?  Where did Our Lord ascend to?  Into space?  Did He merely feign the appearance of an ascent due to the ignorance of the masses, when He was really just sliding into a different dimension?  Or did He keep flying through space until He got to Heaven, wherever that is?  Ascent into Heaven and Descent into Hell become strange notions on a ball, since there is not real "up" or "down", but moving outward and inward.

    I wasn't debating Flat Earth either.  Thank you for your thoughtful answer.
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    Re: Either more aesthetically pleasing, i.e., more beautiful?
    « Reply #6 on: July 03, 2023, 04:09:27 PM »
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    • I found it rather amazing that on an Internet search I could not find a single photo anywhere of a globe earth model let alone a flat earth model at the Vatican -- nothing, nada, zip except the image below of faux Pope Pius XIII alongside a globe earth.

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    Re: Either more aesthetically pleasing, i.e., more beautiful?
    « Reply #7 on: July 04, 2023, 08:36:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on June 29, 2023, 08:36:35 PM
    False dichotomy.  World is spherical in shape and at the center of the universe, even though the surface that we walk on is flat.


    I've often wondered why in so many statues, Our Lord is holding a spherical earth, but the earth is split in half by what appears to be gold partitions, horizontal and vertical, with a Cross on the top (Heaven?). This would coincide with this model of earth.
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    Re: Either more aesthetically pleasing, i.e., more beautiful?
    « Reply #8 on: July 04, 2023, 11:06:26 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on July 04, 2023, 08:36:35 AM
    I've often wondered why in so many statues, Our Lord is holding a spherical earth, but the earth is split in half by what appears to be gold partitions, horizontal and vertical, with a Cross on the top (Heaven?). This would coincide with this model of earth.

    You have the entire Flemish art school with a series of Salvator Mundi paints that look like this.  Notice inside the globe.  You can do a Google search "Salvator Mundi Flemish" to see many of these.  In fact, even the DaVinci version appears to show the sky and stars in the upper part of the globe, and Dr. Sungenis misses the significance of this in using the DaVinci version on the cover of his anti-Flat Earth book.

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