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Pius XII on the law of nature and the globe on which we tread:
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The law of nature participating in the eternal law of God
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But law means order; and universal law means order in great things as well as small. It is an order deriving immediately from the intimate tendencies innate in natural things; an order that nothing can create by itself or give of itself to itself, as no being can give itself to itself; an order that signifies the Order of Reason in a Spirit which has created the universe and on which ‘depend Heaven and the whole of nature’; 4 an order which those tendencies and energies received as they came into being and through which both collaborate for a well-ordered world. This marvellous assemblage of natural laws, which the human spirit, with tireless observation and accurate study, discovered, adding victories upon victories over the occult resistances of the forces of nature, what else is it but an image, through pale and imperfect, of the great idea and of the great divine design, which in the mind of God the Creator is conceived as a law of this universe since the days of His eternity? Then, in the inexhaustible thinking of His wisdom, He prepared the heavens and the earth, and then, creating the light on the abysses of chaos, cradle of the universe also created by Him, He gave a beginning to motion and to the flight of time and of centuries, and called into being, into life and activity, all things according to their species and their kind, to the most imponderable atom. How rightly every intellect which contemplates and penetrates the heavens and weighs the stars and earth should exclaim, turning to God: Omnia in mensura et numero et pondere disposuisti 5 (‘You have disposed everything in measure and number and weight’). Do you not feel, within your souls, that the firmament which enwraps us and the globe which we tread narrate together with your telescopes, with your microscopes, with your scales, with your rules, with your multiform devices, the glory of God, and reflect, as you look, a ray of that uncreated wisdom which attingit a fine usque ad finem fortiter, et disponit omnia suaviter?6 (‘Reaches mightily from one end of the earth to the other and disposes all things well’).
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By God's good grace it is good to be in good company with great Popes.



Do flat-earthers think that men have gone to the moon and that we have rovers on Mars? Or do they think it is all a hoax?
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Good question! Flat-earthers generally apply their de facto skepticism toward everything they can find to which it might seem to "stick." They don't think that mathematics is credible unless it can be used to argue in favor of their pet hypothesis (even if it is used incompletely or incorrectly). They usually deny the existence of satellites or space flight of any kind such as the International Space Station (ISS - which can be seen in orbit using simple land based portable telescopes when you know how to read the updated Ephemeris of the Station, or almanac, which is available for free online). 
It's therefore not too hard to understand that they would likewise doubt the various missions to the moon, or to Mars, or probes sent beyond Mars like Pioneer or Galileo, etc. This is largely due to their mule-like dogmatism for the existence of their so-called solid firmament (which is not called by any such name in Scripture nor is it measurable, testable, verifiable or found by anyone, ever). Notice, they cannot prove their "firmament" exists as they think it does (solid, not a metaphor used to describe the atmosphere and region beyond it all the way to the nearest stars as the Bible footnotes describe it), nonetheless, they accuse anyone who disagrees with their flat-earthism of lying when they use information or data obtained by satellite or sophisticated equipment like radio telescopes or cameras on the ISS.
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Since so much questionable material has been identified regarding the lunar missions (such as some faked studio shots of the lunar landings) some who have no vested interest in flat-earthism (such as Matthew, the owner of this forum) have decided that perhaps the moon landings are not ALL of which we're being lied to about, and therefore hold open the possibility that perhaps the shape of the earth is up for grabs or whatever. 
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I find it odd that my many descriptions of the very simple steps anyone can take to personally verify the layout of the sun and moon relative to the earth which can be directly observed with our own eyes without fancy equipment is for whatever reason insufficient for these armchair doubting Thomases. 
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No, we have not been to the moon and there are no rovers on Mars.
That is not true; Neil Obstat has been to the moon many times. :D

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Those are resistant doubting Thomases, but these are roasted redoubtable tomatillos:
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The astute viewer might also notice a few jalapenos, habaneros, sliced onions and tomatoes in there as well. The 2 habaneros are the bright yellow/orange peppers. 2 is plenty!
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Um, Gee, I don't know, maybe observable reality?  Against a fact there is no argument.