No, not changing the subject. You pointed out that there aren't any traditional Catholic priests who support FE. Which is true. But why would numbers really matter so much to you? They don't support your Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ religion either, right?

Its been argued that FE must be believed as a matter of faith, otherwise you are a pagan, heretic, blasphemer, leading souls to hell, stupid, etc....without the support of a single traditional priest supporting that ideology...goes as far as TiE saying that he is a real Catholic because he believes in FE and Smedley thinking he is part of the few faithful that have broken through the 500 years of indoctrination and that the Church will catch up soon.  For all the bluster of accusations and condemnation, there is no priest that thinks this way.  If they are taking their version of Catholicism this far... Do Tie and Smed call their parish priest stupid, pagan, heretic, blasphemer....if they feel that someone who won't convert to FE is these things, then how they can receive any sacrament from them?  Would that not be a sin in it self?  Its a double standard and they get to play tough online.

I do believe that its changing the subject.  Why does it matter? You've ready the large font bolt type condemning and accusing of hellfire.  That is not discussing, educating, or trying to convert....where to they get to condemn hell something that NOT ONE priest supports? I'm arguing against FE, I've never one argued anything on here from a masonic point of view or from the view point of the protestant religion of which I belong to now..  And for all that have asked both public and private I have been open and honest.  

Its been argued that FE must be believed as a matter of faith, otherwise you are a pagan, heretic, blasphemer, leading souls to hell, stupid, etc....without the support of a single traditional priest supporting that ideology...goes as far as TiE saying that he is a real Catholic because he believes in FE and Smedley thinking he is part of the few faithful that have broken through the 500 years of indoctrination and that the Church will catch up soon.  For all the bluster of accusations and condemnation, there is no priest that thinks this way.  If they are taking their version of Catholicism this far... Do Tie and Smed call their parish priest stupid, pagan, heretic, blasphemer....if they feel that someone who won't convert to FE is these things, then how they can receive any sacrament from them?  Would that not be a sin in it self?  Its a double standard and they get to play tough online.

I do believe that its changing the subject.  Why does it matter? You've ready the large font bolt type condemning and accusing of hellfire.  That is not discussing, educating, or trying to convert....where to they get to condemn hell something that NOT ONE priest supports? I'm arguing against FE, I've never one argued anything on here from a masonic point of view or from the view point of the protestant religion of which I belong to now..  And for all that have asked both public and private I have been open and honest.  

If you have a problem with what TiE writes, then bring it up with him.

Now that you are clearly admitting that you are a Protestant and freemason, you are taking it upon yourself to show the extreme side of traditional Catholics. I get that. Well, the reason you left the Catholic faith had to do with a lot more than just the flat earth espoused by some traditional Catholics, right?

Now that you are clearly admitting that you are a Protestant and freemason, you are taking it upon yourself to show the extreme side of traditional Catholics. I get that. Well, the reason you left the Catholic faith had to do with a lot more than just the flat earth espoused by some traditional Catholics, right?

He clearly admitted it some time ago.  

I can understand taking posts by a non-Catholic with a grain of salt, but you are going beyond that and not even addressing the points he makes.  You are simply make an ad hominem argument.  

A non-Catholic is often capable of understanding Catholic teaching and able to discuss it intelligently.  Try to address his actual arguments.

A non-Catholic is often capable of understanding Catholic teaching and able to discuss it intelligently.  Try to address his actual arguments.

Evidently you are glad that a Protestant freemason is on your globe earth side. Good luck with that. 

Meg, if you back track my posts on this thread, I did specifically ask TIE and Smed to reply, and had a back and forth with Smed.
Meg, i clearly admitted it in the other thread when you asked, and in the private messages with you.  No I mean no harm anyone, but strong disagree with FE.  You are right, the reason I left had nothing to do with FE.  I still have family in the spectrum of tradition and that is why I am here.  Call me crazy but I do have a problem with one tradition Catholic acting hypocritically and calling another traditional Catholic a blasphemer, pagan, heretic, etc without any single priest backing up their ideology....and receiving sacraments from a priest that falls under their definition of a blasphemer, pagan, heretic, etc?  

What you have a problem with is the idea of a flat earth. As pretty much any freemason would, isn't that correct?

Actually, I am not glad about it.  Nevertheless, virtually shouting "FREEMASON FREEMASON!" whenever he posts does not address his arguments.

One good thing about his presence is that it illustrates the scandal caused to non-Catholics when trads carry on like this about Flat Earth.  They can see how wrong it is and it is can be an obstacle to them accepting the the true Faith.

Well then, why don't you set out to convert Rough Ashlar back to the Catholic Church, Jayne?

Oh wait, I see that you are doing that already by defending the globe earth (which freemasons agree with) and going against the flat earth, right?

I personally don't believe in FE. I have never met one person in person that believes in FE.  There might be freemasons that believe in FE, I do not know.  It isn't something that has ever been brought up in conversation or otherwise.


You have already said there is not one Catholic Priest that believes in FE

So your fellow freemasons at your freemasonic lodge don't talk about the globe earth, or the flat earth? Well, there are literally thousands of freemasonic lodges in the U.S., and even more around the world. You don't know what they discuss in all of them.

That's okay. I realized after you posted that that you were not aware that he is a freemason. He says that he's been honest and open about it, but that's not true. I think that very few here have been aware that we have a Protestant freemason on the forum.

I would be even more worried if he were on the side of the flat earthers. Thankfully, that's not the case.  :)

What have I been dishonest about?  Its not like I took a saints name or a latin phrase and hid behind it.  I used masonic term, and have answered you and everyone else honestly when asked.  You knew about this a while ago when we discussed it.

Why is that you are making a big deal about it now opposed to back then?  Why not counter my argument?