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Is the earth shaped like a globe?

Yes, it is.
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No, it is flat.
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This debate is ridiculous and I wish it was not allowed on Cathinfo.
14 (27.5%)
other
3 (5.9%)

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Offline Smedley Butler

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Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2018, 06:43:13 PM »
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  • No, she was not intending to teach.  She was using a globe as the symbol for the world, just as it has appeared in Catholic art for many centuries.  A globe represents the world, in the sense of the planet earth, for most people.  When most people hear the words she used, they don't think that "world" means universe.  She knew how people would understand her words.

    If this were the evil, erroneous belief that these flat earthers claim it is, Our Lady would have been encouraging us to accept something evil.
      
    It did not prove that the earth is a globe but it does show that Our Lady has no problem with us believing that the earth is a globe.
    She did NOT say the EARTH IS A GLOBE.
    She said "This GLOBE REPRESENTS THE WORLD."
    She knew EXACTLY what the word WORLD meant.



    YOU and Myrna put words in Our Lady's mouth and claim she ONLY meant the earth.
    She did NOT.


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #31 on: February 06, 2018, 12:15:23 PM »
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  • I've already done that experiment, and you are WRONG: the images are NOT inverted.

    They are MIRROR IMAGED left to right and identical.

    Exactly as would be expected on a flat plane.
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    Prove your claim by posting the photos. If you can't post them, you're making it up, no surprise.
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    Where were you located when you took your photo?
    Who was your associate in the southern hemisphere?
    What country was he located in?
    What was the date and time when you took the photos?
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #32 on: February 06, 2018, 12:53:08 PM »
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  • I honestly wouldn't be surprised if flat earther people were plants in our community set up here to delititmize us and make us look crazy. 

      Flat Earthers are insular and ignorable.  
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    To insular and ignorable, could be added: 
    myopic, brash, hypercritical, repugnant, dense, hard-headed, malicious, proud, haughty, stodgy, fulminating, self-contradictory, hypocritical, quixotic, hyperbolic, impracticable, pretentious, presumptuous, rash, insolent, deleterious, abrasive, over-emotional, obtuse, pertinacious... 
    Yeah, that's the word I was looking for, pertinacious.
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    Pertinacity in action!
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    Offline WholeFoodsTrad

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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #33 on: February 10, 2018, 03:43:46 AM »
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  • https://www.olrl.org/lives/laboure.shtml
    "As I was busy contemplating Her, the Blessed Virgin fixed Her eyes upon me, and a voice said in the depths of my heart: ' This globe which you see represents the whole world, especially France, and each person in particular.'
    Well, maybe that wasn't investigated properly.  

    After all, the priests who investigated it, probably thought The Earth was a big fat ball, spinning like a top and whizzing around the sun at ka-zillions of mph.    ::)
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #34 on: February 11, 2018, 11:31:34 PM »
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    Up to 20 now. 
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    Looks like there are only 8 flat-earthers who know how to use CathInfo.
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    Better go call in your atheist buddies at flat-tard-central.
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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #35 on: February 12, 2018, 04:37:33 AM »
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    Up to 20 now.
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    Looks like there are only 8 flat-earthers who know how to use CathInfo.
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    Better go call in your atheist buddies at flat-tard-central.
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    :jester:
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #36 on: February 12, 2018, 04:38:26 AM »
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  • :jester:
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #37 on: February 12, 2018, 04:43:00 AM »
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  • :jester:
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."


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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #38 on: February 12, 2018, 04:45:58 AM »
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  • :jester:
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #39 on: February 12, 2018, 04:46:30 AM »
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  • :jester:
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #40 on: February 12, 2018, 04:50:29 AM »
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  • :jester:
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #41 on: March 05, 2018, 09:34:00 PM »
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    After they took my advice there's still over 50% polled in favor of the globe earth here
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    Up to 20 now. 
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    Looks like there are only 8 flat-earthers who know how to use CathInfo.
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    Better go call in your atheist buddies at flat-tard-central.
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    Even with all the help they can muster from their atheist buddies at flat-tard-central, this is all they could accomplish?
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    All the flat-earthers have to do is address each point in turn. But they won't because they can't.
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    Why can't they?
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    Because: (Address each point in turn)
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    There never has been and there never will be any depiction of a Theodolite shooting a level line of sight from a promontory of even a few hundred feet toward the horizon which shows the horizon "rising to the level of the viewer" as flat-earthers keep chanting without any evidence.
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    There never has been and there never will be an intelligible explanation for why the full moon faces with its sun-illuminated face toward the earth from high in the sky, from the flat-earth hypothesis which places the sun above a "flat" disc earth at nearly 90 degrees to the line of the moon's light as viewed from anywhere on planet earth.
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    There never has been and there never will be any "flat" earth plausible geometry describing how a quarter moon makes the angle it does to the sun (while insisting it and the moon are some 3 thousand miles above the earth) twice each month for all to see.
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    There never has been and there never will be any reasonable excuse for the fact that a ship or plane traveling due east (or due west) along the equator does not have to turn right (starboard) or left (port) in order to remain on the equator and due east (or west as the case may be).
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    There never has been and there never will be any "flat" earth demonstration of WHY two parallel courses once embarked will in due time collide with each other on the real earth, since they don't do that on the "flat" earth model.
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    There never has been and there never will be any reasonable "flat" earth explanation for how any weighted object in a vacuum will consistently be pulled in a perpendicular direction from the horizon line regardless of where on the real earth the experiment is conducted.
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    There never has been and there never will be an explanation for the numerous flights of aircraft that pass over or close to Antarctica and traverse a distance too short to be plotted on a "flat" earth model, when many pilots, co-pilots and navigators who routinely fly such courses have and will continue to attest.
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    There never has been and there never will be any honest video showing the horizon unable to conceal distant objects beyond the curvature of the earth, even while the refraction of light through the water vapor above a body of water makes it appear otherwise, since the progressive foreshortening of such objects belies the distortion caused by the refraction.
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    There never has been and there never will be a seagoing navigator using a sextant and sea charts who can accurately plot his course over a great distance overseas, when he presumes the earth is "flat."
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    The recent total lunar eclipse of January 31st, 2018 was a striking proof of the curvature of the earth's horizon because of the curved shadow the earth cast upon the moon for all to see (all who have eyes to see that is).
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    From Los Angeles the view was most advantageous, with clear skies and almost complete coverage, from beginning to nearly the end.
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    We could see the penumbra starting to cover the moon, then the umbra of Earth's shadow leaving a dark CURVED shadow moving over the moon.
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    As it progressed and completely covered the moon, the dark shadow turned copper-colored (not blood red) and against the totally black sky its reduced intensity was able to carry the color very well.
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    They say "blood moon" because it sounds dramatic, I guess, more than "copper moon" would sound.
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    And anyone looking for the moon turning blue doesn't know that a "blue moon" just means you're getting two full moons in one month. January had two, and February has none this year.
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    I can go on. The list can grow a LOT longer............Quote from: Neil Obstat on Sat Feb 03 2018 21:47:56 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #42 on: March 06, 2018, 02:50:57 AM »
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  • "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #43 on: March 06, 2018, 03:38:50 PM »
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    It's really funny how flat-earthers can only find one or two friends to come here and click a button.
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    Flat-earthism must be an extremely rare disorder.   :jester:
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    Re: What do Cathinfo members think?
    « Reply #44 on: March 07, 2018, 05:02:31 AM »
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  • No no, seriously  :laugh2:
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."