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I want some fast facts I can remember to use whenever I hear someone promote evolution or the Earth being millions of years old nonsense
It was Charles Lyell (1797-1875), Adam Sedgwick, Sir Roderick Murchison and many other like-minded men of the Geological Society of London, founded in 1807, who first proposed the Earth itself was formed over long ages. Once Kant and Laplace’s 1755-1796 theory of an evolved solar-system took hold in mens’ minds, it became crucial to produce some ‘proof’ for long-ages just as it was necessary to produce ‘proof’ for heliocentrism. The uniformitarians did this by using the layers of sedimentary rock strata found all over the Earth.

The uniformitarian theory is based on the layers of sedimentary rock found all over the world being laid down during different ages.

‘Sedimentary rocks form by an accuмulation of layers in a variety of environments such as the sea floor, lake or desert. The sediment will eventually consolidate to become rock strata (layers). Generally, the lowest layers are older than the upper layers and any plant or animal remains they contain will be older [and more evolved], as will any minerals that were formed during or soon after the deposition.’

Is that a fact now? Well, experiments conducted at the University of Colorado by sedimentologist Guy Berthault between 1985 and 1990 have shattered all conceived assertions that sediments were laid down one layer on top of another throughout time. In fact, Berthault, testing sedimentation with sediments in moving waters, found sediments are laid down in a sideways motion, so that the bottom strata of deposits, always considered the oldest according to that ‘science,’ can well be younger than the top strata further back along the path of any deposit. Berthault’s tests offered scientific evidence that showed the long-age sedimentation geology of Lyell and others used by Darwin for his evolution is no longer feasible. The sedimentologist’s sideway findings were published in his book Principles of geologic dating in question  and then in the French scientific review Fusion. Here below is how Peter Wilders describes how the ‘scientific’ world reacted.

‘First was the classical and normally most effective tactic of silence. By not replying to the docuмentation sent to them, the Geological Society, in this case that of France, blocked all dialogue on it. The author of the experiments countered their tactics by sending a copy of the scientific journal to all the 1,200 or so active members of the society. In this way, everyone in the geological community in France was made aware of the experiment results. The society retaliated by attacking the experimenter from authority, i.e., they claimed that all the geologists for three centuries could not be wrong; therefore, the evidence could be safely ignored. The success of such a method depended upon the geologists being united. Most were, but a few responded independently saying they were interested… Supportive geologists fearing for their credibility and, therefore livelihood, wait in the wings.’

Wilders goes on to say that the final rejection of Berthault’s evidence came from the Galilean Catholic hierarchy as might be expected. They placed a letter in the Geological Society’s half-yearly newsletter and, giving no heed at all to the empirical evidence supplied by Berthault, they accused the scientist of ‘pseudoscience and creationism.’ ‘By attacking his personal credibility, they knew that most geologists would not take his work seriously’ wrote Wilders.

Offline Matthew

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No transitional fossils have been found. No missing links -- between ANY species. Darwin thought they would be found eventually -- little did he know that a couple hundred years later, STILL nothing.

Another inconvenient truth: they used to think cells were about as complex as a bowl of jell-o. Little did they know they were little universes in themselves. Now that we know how complex DNA is, and the interior of cells are, there is NO excuse to believe in evolution.


Then there are Radioactive Halos Cryptonox

Such an evolution and rock formation, of course, would have to include aspects of atomic radiation left behind in certain rocks, but that science did not begin until 1895. It seems that there is radioactivity going on within certain rocks and it leaves behind evidence of this activity and decay. As one would expect it is a complicated science and is of course used to age the Earth at billions of years old, just like the layers of sediments themselves and the fossils found in them are used by the evolutionists to convince all it took millions of years to happen. Well, just as we had a Berthault who investigated the Earth’s sediments, the nuclear science of rocks had its man who investigated the history of radiation in them. His name is Robert Gentry (1933-2020) and he wrote up his findings in his book Creation’s Tiny Mystery in which he also tells us of the rejections he received from the ‘expert’ scientists in his field, exactly the same response Berthault experienced. In 1962, when he first proposed that he do a thesis on earlier investigations of the radioactive history of rock as his PhD, it was rejected on the basis that that science had already ended and any find other than established would challenge years of evolutionary findings. Such was Robert Gentry’s determination to do the retesting; he began it in his own premises, with his own money, whereas he said, many millions of taxpayers’ dollars were given to the evolutionists to pursue their propaganda there was no funding for something that might contradict their findings. So how does one go about dating a piece of granite? You crush it, he said in his lecture, found in his website below,  do some chemistry on it, and extract chemical elements out of it like uranium, an active radiation, and examine the halos left after activity.

Radioactive halos left behind in rocks    www.halos.com

To make a long story short, Gentry found halos in certain rocks like granite that were instant, with little or no time in their decay. In other words, he said, it was God’s marker, left behind when He created rock instantly, to thwart the evolutionists God knew would eventually try to eliminate Him from His Creation. Needless to say, because his findings made the radioactive Earth-ageing business redundant, they gave him hell. Nevertheless, he challenged all of them to try to prove his instant creation wrong, which none could do. Now whereas Gentry’s find does not age the Earth scientifically, it prevents the evolutionary science from using rock formation as billions of years old.

‘And the flood was forty days upon the earth, and the waters increased, and lifted up the ark on high from the earth. For they overflowed exceedingly: and filled all on the face of the earth: and the ark was carried upon the waters. And the waters prevailed beyond measure upon the earth: and all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered. And all flesh was destroyed that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beasts, and of all creeping things that creep upon the earth: and all men.’ (Genesis 7: 17-21)

Now consider examples of sedimentation found worldwide, some above and below the lie of the land. Of special note are the mountains of deposits found worldwide, often depicted on Google. For these mountains of sedimentation to occur, the waters had to be higher than the existing mountains worldwide. The evidence then shows a world-wide flood.

Then there is the Mount St Helens volcano eruption in Washington State in 1980 (third right picture above). In a matter days and weeks, layer after layer of lava lairs formed in front of the scientists studying the explosion. This demonstrated that the supposed millions of years necessary to lay down such formations are not necessarly a true fact of science.

After churchmen fell for heliocentrism in 1820, an evolved one by then, and a heliocentric meaning Bible, churchmen then had to go along with the 'science' that showed a long ages Earth. Soon we got the following:

In his 1913 book Galileo and his Condemnation, the Jesuit Fr Hull (1863-1952) gives us a demonstration of the propaganda used and the history of how the modernists made Noah’s Flood conform to the ‘advancement of science.’

‘Down to a generation or two ago it was the general belief of Christians that the deluge of Noah covered the whole Earth, and that it is so described in the most explicit terms in the Bible. Certain new considerations, mainly drawn from geology, led specialists to the contrary conclusion that the deluge was by no means universal, but was a comparatively local phenomenon; widespread enough to cover the area occupied by mankind at that time, but not much more. This view at first found considerable opposition in theological circles; partly because the restriction of the area of the flood was not as yet demonstrated beyond question, and partly because it ran counter to the literal text of the Scripture as universally understood by its interpreters. Fortunately, the view did not attain such sudden publicity as to cause a widespread sensation, and so no crisis arose. The partial-deluge-view gradually came to look more feasible, and the possibility of interpreting Scripture accordingly became more evident. The new view gradually filtered down from learned circles to the man in the street, so that nowadays the partiality of the deluge is a matter of commonplace knowledge among all educated Christians, and taught to the rising generation in elementary schools.’

How could local-floods, river sediments, sea sedimentation etc., result in such fossil-containing mountain layers at such heights in many countries of the Earth? ‘Local’ waters could not reach such heights as common sense will tell you. But a global flood as depicted in Genesis and Chinese history could have caused such mountains of sediments found worldwide. It tells us of a deluge of rain and months of waters bursting from under the Earth causing separations of lands and mountains to form world-wide before receding and leaving behind the landscapes and mountain high rock-forms as we now find them.Alas, 100 years after Fr Hull, we find the global Deluge depicted in Catholic Bibles not only as local, but that not all people were drowned:

‘Deluge. The great flood which covered the whole land or region in which Noe lived (Gen. 6:1-9:19). God sent this flood to destroy all men in this region because of their wickedness. Noe and his family alone were spared (Gen. 6:1-8). Scriptural scholars say that the flood did not necessarily cover the whole Earth as we know it today; some even hold that it not necessarily destroyed all the people on the Earth.’ ----- The Holy Bible: The Catholic Press Inc. Chicago, 1951.

So much for the dogma: ‘no salvation outside the Catholic Church (the Ark).

Why then, according to Genesis, did God tell Noah to build a massive Ark over many years, a barge, the dimensions of which are recorded in Genesis and known by modern shipbuilders to be the perfect dimensions for its purpose, a barge bigger than any modern cruise ship, just to spend a year afloat on a local flooded plain the size of a large lake when he and his family could have simply moved with horse and cart to a dry region in the same way as Moses was advised to move out of Egypt to save his people? Moreover, why did Genesis tell us Noah took so many animals, birds etc. in the Ark to preserve such kinds on Earth after the waters receded? If there were ‘regions’ that were not flooded, then surely the animals and birds on them would have made God’s order to Adam totally unnecessary.



Offline Yeti

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In his 1913 book Galileo and his Condemnation, the Jesuit Fr Hull (1863-1952) gives us a demonstration of the propaganda used and the history of how the modernists made Noah’s Flood conform to the ‘advancement of science.’

‘Down to a generation or two ago it was the general belief of Christians that the deluge of Noah covered the whole Earth, and that it is so described in the most explicit terms in the Bible. Certain new considerations, mainly drawn from geology, led specialists to the contrary conclusion that the deluge was by no means universal, but was a comparatively local phenomenon; widespread enough to cover the area occupied by mankind at that time, but not much more. This view at first found considerable opposition in theological circles; partly because the restriction of the area of the flood was not as yet demonstrated beyond question, and partly because it ran counter to the literal text of the Scripture as universally understood by its interpreters. Fortunately, the view did not attain such sudden publicity as to cause a widespread sensation, and so no crisis arose. The partial-deluge-view gradually came to look more feasible, and the possibility of interpreting Scripture accordingly became more evident. The new view gradually filtered down from learned circles to the man in the street, so that nowadays the partiality of the deluge is a matter of commonplace knowledge among all educated Christians, and taught to the rising generation in elementary schools.’



I've never heard this name, but this Fr. Hull sounds like a modernist. It is pure modernism to deny the Flood and claim it only covered part of the earth. And yes, he is right, such an idea would rightly have been considered heretical for the entire history of the Church before the 20th century. It is contrary to Scripture, and contrary to the unanimous interpretation of Scripture by the Fathers, who all taught that the Flood covered the whole earth, as the Bible says it did.