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Offline Samuel

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What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
« on: February 07, 2018, 02:34:05 PM »
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    • I have heard through the grapevine that in Ireland quite a few Traditional Catholics have become infected with this "flat earth flatulence", and I wonder what it would take to rid the Resistance of yet another counter productive distraction and embarrassment (if it's not too late already). So..

    1. What do flat earthers consider their best argument to support the flat earth theory?

    2. If that argument can be proven wrong, would these flat earthers be willing to consider that they've been taken by the nose? And more importantly, would they be willing to stop arguing about it?

    I invite any flat earther to take up this simple challenge, and if they are brave enough, to promise that they will :

    1. Stick to this one argument of their own choice and follow it through to the end.

    2. Promise that if their argument is proven wrong they will never again argue in favour of a flat earth, either in public or in private.

    Anyone up to the challenge?
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #1 on: February 07, 2018, 02:54:12 PM »
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    • ok first, it's not up to flat earthers to prove themselves. We feel no movement, see no curvature, and there is nothing in sacred scripture about the earth being made round. It's up to globe earthers to prove themselves.

    What we flat earthers do is condemn globe earth as both a scientific and theological error.

    My PERSONAL favourite way of doing this is the fact of seeing objects over the horizaon.

    Any of the "convincing" videos in this thread http://flatearthtrads.forumga.net/t17-objects-over-the-horizon-proofs (except the one on mt taranaki) is good.

    This one is my favourite



    You see globe earthers have now back themselves into a corner declaring a fixed rate of curvature based on a fixed circuмference. With  high zoom cameras it is easy to debunk this with images which are clearly not refraction because they are too steady and integral.


    And goodness, while I'm happy to hear that Ireland is clear on this, it is by no means the only place.

    You can't make this go away because it is the truth.
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #2 on: February 07, 2018, 03:00:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 02:34:05 PM
    I have heard through the grapevine that in Ireland quite a few Traditional Catholics have become infected with this "flat earth flatulence", and I wonder what it would take to rid the Resistance of yet another counter productive distraction and embarrassment (if it's not too late already). So..

    1. What do flat earthers consider their best argument to support the flat earth theory?

    2. If that argument can be proven wrong, would these flat earthers be willing to consider that they've been taken by the nose? And more importantly, would they be willing to stop arguing about it?

    I invite any flat earther to take up this simple challenge, and if they are brave enough, to promise that they will :

    1. Stick to this one argument of their own choice and follow it through to the end.

    2. Promise that if their argument is proven wrong they will never again argue in favour of a flat earth, either in public or in private.

    Anyone up to the challenge?
    Thanks for proving me correct. https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/has-anyone-else-besides-me-noticed-this-trend-here/
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #3 on: February 07, 2018, 03:01:51 PM »
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    • kiwiboy,

    Sorry, I had to laugh when I read "(except the one on mt taranaki)" as that is the one argument that I dealt with quite extensively on ablf3 and which beyond a shadow of doubt proved the curvature of the earth. You obviously were there at the time. Never mind, we'll take another one.

    But first, do you agree with the terms?

    If I disprove the arguments made in your favourite video, will you agree to never again argue in favour of flat earth, either in public or in private?
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #4 on: February 07, 2018, 03:04:33 PM »
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #5 on: February 07, 2018, 03:23:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: kiwiboy on February 07, 2018, 02:54:12 PM
    ok first, it's not up to flat earthers to prove themselves. We feel no movement, see no curvature, and there is nothing in sacred scripture about the earth being made round. It's up to globe earthers to prove themselves.

    What we flat earthers do is condemn globe earth as both a scientific and theological error.

    My PERSONAL favourite way of doing this is the fact of seeing objects over the horizaon.

    Any of the "convincing" videos in this thread http://flatearthtrads.forumga.net/t17-objects-over-the-horizon-proofs (except the one on mt taranaki) is good.

    This one is my favourite



    You see globe earthers have now back themselves into a corner declaring a fixed rate of curvature based on a fixed circuмference. With  high zoom cameras it is easy to debunk this with images which are clearly not refraction because they are too steady and integral.


    And goodness, while I'm happy to hear that Ireland is clear on this, it is by no means the only place.

    You can't make this go away because it is the truth.

    PS: Once you explicitly agree on the terms of the challenge (mentioned above), I suggest we start another thread to discuss the argument of your choice (i.e. your favourite video).

    That way we can keep this thread clean for others who may be as brave as you in putting forward their own favourite argument. I doubt there will be many takers though, but we'll see.

    Ready when you are!
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #6 on: February 07, 2018, 03:31:48 PM »
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    • It's a long list of fave arguments, hard to choose. 

    But no one would agree to your so-called "terms" so don't you bugger off?

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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #7 on: February 07, 2018, 03:33:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 03:01:51 PM
    kiwiboy,

    Sorry, I had to laugh when I read "(except the one on mt taranaki)" as that is the one argument that I dealt with quite extensively on ablf3 and which beyond a shadow of doubt proved the curvature of the earth. You obviously were there at the time. Never mind, we'll take another one.

    But first, do you agree with the terms?

    If I disprove the arguments made in your favourite video, will you agree to never again argue in favour of flat earth, either in public or in private?
    You will never be able to curve the horizontal horizon. ;D
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #8 on: February 07, 2018, 03:34:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 03:23:27 PM
    PS: Once you explicitly agree on the terms of the challenge (mentioned above), I suggest we start another thread to discuss the argument of your choice (i.e. your favourite video).

    That way we can keep this thread clean for others who may be as brave as you in putting forward their own favourite argument. I doubt there will be many takers though, but we'll see.

    Ready when you are!
    Is the horizontal horizon horizontal? ;D
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #9 on: February 07, 2018, 03:34:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on February 07, 2018, 03:31:48 PM
    It's a long list of fave arguments, hard to choose.

    But no one would agree to your so-called "terms" so don't you bugger off?

    That's another "No, I'm all talk but no guts".

    Score so far: 1 brave (pending agreement with terms), 2 chickens.
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #10 on: February 07, 2018, 03:36:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Truth is Eternal on February 07, 2018, 03:34:29 PM
    Is the horizontal horizon horizontal? ;D

    Hey chicken, would you mind go and cackle somewhere else, and leave this thread for the grown ups.
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #11 on: February 07, 2018, 03:36:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 03:04:33 PM
    I take it that's a "No, I'm too chicken to take up your challenge" ?
    You are the one proving me correct.
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #12 on: February 07, 2018, 03:42:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 03:23:27 PM
    PS: Once you explicitly agree on the terms of the challenge (mentioned above), I suggest we start another thread to discuss the argument of your choice (i.e. your favourite video).

    That way we can keep this thread clean for others who may be as brave as you in putting forward their own favourite argument. I doubt there will be many takers though, but we'll see.

    Ready when you are!

    Sorry I was busy there for the last while.

    I can't possibly agree to that particular term because it would be to deny something that I think is part of my faith and also contrary to common sense.

    St. Pius X talks about how the creation touches on the foundation of our religion.

    I have no problem discussing the scientific proofs as long as you want, and I am able.
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #13 on: February 07, 2018, 03:43:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 03:01:51 PM


    If I disprove the arguments made in your favourite video, will you agree to never again argue in favour of flat earth, either in public or in private?

    I refer to this term. But do your best. You won't get very far.
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 03:48:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: kiwiboy on February 07, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
    Sorry I was busy there for the last while.

    I can't possibly agree to that particular term because it would be to deny something that I think is part of my faith and also contrary to common sense.

    St. Pius X talks about how the creation touches on the foundation of our religion.

    I have no problem discussing the scientific proofs as long as you want, and I am able.

    I have found in the past that every time I refute one of their arguments, flat earthers simply ignore that particular video/argument and simply move on to the next one.

    It takes time to present the arguments/refutations, and if there is no hope of achieving anything, then we may as well "bugger off" like one chicken just suggested. And that's fine with me, as long as everyone else "buggers off" too.

    Btw, a flat or round earth is absolutely not part of my Faith, on the contrary, it is a distraction, and one that the devil is all too happy to use in order to divide Traditional Catholics.
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