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Offline happenby

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Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2018, 04:31:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on February 07, 2018, 04:28:05 PM
    Considering how bad the schools are, it is not at all surprising that some would accept nonsense like flat earth and the many other errors being spread today.
    Ahem.  The schools do not teach flat earth.  Another dodge, miss the point, ridiculous accusation.  Rather, the sentence should read: Considering how bad the schools are, it is not at all surprising that most would accept nonsense like global earth and the many errors being spread today. 
    Flat earthers are attempting to expose the lie. 
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    Offline kiwiboy

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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #46 on: February 07, 2018, 04:32:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 04:27:42 PM
    With that I agree: concentrate on what you see and can test for yourself, and don't bother with what someone is supposed to have said, somewhere, some time, without us being able to verify all the links between them and us.

    Still, even that does not seem to be enough for most (if not all) flat earth "believers". I'm at a loss what else they could possible want. It has become like a cult, where there's only one dogma: "the earth is flat".

    Smedley seems to be right, you are just trolling.

    Prove me wrong and post intelligent responses to the videos I listed.

    Now I'm going to pray my rosary and get off this internet-thing-a-majigg!
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    Offline kiwiboy

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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #47 on: February 07, 2018, 04:33:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 04:29:11 PM
    Thanks for stating that fact. The wise will know how to interpret it.

    There's nothing wise about accepting error.
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    Offline Samuel

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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #48 on: February 07, 2018, 04:36:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: kiwiboy on February 07, 2018, 04:32:39 PM
    Smedley seems to be right, you are just trolling.

    Prove me wrong and post intelligent responses to the videos I listed.

    Now I'm going to pray my rosary and get off this internet-thing-a-majigg!

    No, not without a guarantee that I will be talking to an intelligent and honest audience.

    Back to the challenge in the OP.

    Anyone?
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    Offline Smedley Butler

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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #49 on: February 07, 2018, 04:40:51 PM »
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    • All the flatties I know are well over 35.

    Flatties stop feeding the ugly troll!
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #50 on: February 07, 2018, 04:42:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 04:36:36 PM
    No, not without a guarantee that I will be talking to an intelligent and honest audience.

    Back to the challenge in the OP.

    Anyone?

    with such conditions then, you will be very alone.

    Good bye!
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    Offline Samuel

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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #51 on: February 07, 2018, 04:42:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on February 07, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
    All the flatties I know are well over 35.

    Flatties stop feeding the ugly troll!

    "They say that wisdom comes with old age, but you know, fools get old too!"
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #52 on: February 07, 2018, 04:54:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: kiwiboy on February 07, 2018, 04:42:08 PM
    with such conditions then, you will be very alone.

    Good bye!

    I know, the combination of intelligent, honest and brave is rare as hen's teeth.

     ;D
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #53 on: February 07, 2018, 05:15:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 04:42:27 PM
    "They say that wisdom comes with old age, but you know, fools get old too!"
    Is the horizontal horizon horizontal? ;D
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #54 on: February 07, 2018, 07:12:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Truth is Eternal on February 07, 2018, 04:19:41 PM
    ANSWER THE QUESTION!
    How many times have you asked TIE?

    They cannot answer it. 

    Horizontal is horizontal. 

    Modern Science is a religion  :jumping2:
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #55 on: February 07, 2018, 07:47:30 PM »
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    • I can't even remember how many times I asked people a question about the horizon. So many of them come in the flat earth sub forum thinking they are all high and mighty until they are asked a question about the horizon. ;D
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    Offline Samuel

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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #56 on: February 07, 2018, 08:52:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Truth is Eternal on February 07, 2018, 05:15:45 PM
    Is the horizontal horizon horizontal? ;D

    I don't know what you're trying to achieve by persistently asking stupid questions, but I'll give you an answer in the hope that someone will soon pick up your dummy and stuff it back in your mouth.

    Given that the online dictionary defines:

    #1: horizontal : parallel to the plane of the horizon; at right angles to the vertical.

    #2: horizon: the line at which the earth's surface and the sky appear to meet.

    I answer that:

    The horizon that is parallel to the plane of the horizon is indeed parallel to the line at which the earth's surface and the sky appear to meet.

    Now, if mummy still hasn't picked up your dummy, try using your thumb. That's a good boy!
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    Offline Samuel

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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #57 on: February 07, 2018, 09:19:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: kiwiboy on February 07, 2018, 02:54:12 PM
    ..
    And goodness, while I'm happy to hear that Ireland is clear on this, it is by no means the only place.
    ..

    Hey kiwiboy, do you remember this post, by a certain gtbe on ablf3, on 20 April 2017 ?

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    There is a great video going around about Mt. Taranaki, the one that was mentioned above.
     
     He uses photos from different places, but note especially the last one, and where it was taken from. Not from a hill, but from sea level. The whole mountain should be under the horizon. We can't see through solid objects, we know this.
     
     Anyway here is the video

    I then went on to prove beyond a shadow of doubt that that video and photo actually was solid proof the earth is curved, as in "not flat". The reply from gtbe was :

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    Forget about the Mt. Taranaki one. Please don't get hung up on that one.
     
     The bottom of Mt Taranaki, and the ship disappearing, does not prove the curvature. Certainly not according to the maths of the official scientific community because it goes out at far less of a rate. The principal way we set out to prove the flat earth is to show that the official figures do not add up. If you want to say that the earth is way bigger than 25000 miles round go ahead, but nobody says that.
     
     What is happening here in these cases is the simple phenomen of convergence. It is why we cannot see to somewhere the other end of the world. It is an observation, based on the (well founded - as you will see) assumption that the earth is flat.
     
     BTW, you didn't debunk the Mt. Taranaki video, just simply brought it to a point where neither of us could prove our point. And as for the second "undeniable proof" video, there is still no explanation for why we can see so much of that mountain, except that what we have been told is wrong. And so that is simply my point, and one of the reasons I am a flat earther.

    Notice the change of tune? And the wriggling? It makes sense that you don't like Mt Taranaki anymore.

    I'd say, you ARE the ringleader of the Irish Flat Earthers, aren't you?
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #58 on: February 08, 2018, 06:27:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Samuel on February 07, 2018, 08:52:01 PM
    Given that the online dictionary defines:

    #1: horizontal : parallel to the plane of the horizon; at right angles to the vertical.

    #2: horizon: the line at which the earth's surface and the sky appear to meet.

    I answer that:

    The horizon that is parallel to the plane of the horizon is indeed parallel to the line at which the earth's surface and the sky appear to meet.


    The true horizon (definition #2) has curvature, though normally imperceptible to the naked eye.  However, in some contexts, like perspective in art, "horizon" does refer to a straight line.  The term "horizontal" refers to a straight line parallel to the x access.  So a horizontal horizon refers to a context in which "horizon" means a straight line, not the line at which the earth's surface and the sky appear to meet, that is, the true horizon.  A horizontal horizon is horizontal by definition. The true horizon is not.  In Euclidean geometry, "parallel" can only refer to straight lines (although it may be used analogously in other contexts).  So technically, no lines are parallel to the true horizon, although one might say this using inexact speech.
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    Re: What's your best argument for a Flat Earth?
    « Reply #59 on: February 08, 2018, 07:50:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: Truth is Eternal on February 07, 2018, 05:15:45 PM
    Is the horizontal horizon horizontal? ;D

    That's a tautological formulation that merely begs the question and plays on words.  I don't find the question particularly meaningful, and it's getting rather annoying.
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