Welcome to the party, friend!Well thank you... nice for you to invite me! :cowboy:
Welcome to the party, friend!.
..Take your globe earth mask off; you know the earth is flat. :P
It's great to be here! Hey, wait a minute. Nobody told me it was a costume party!
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Take your globe earth mask off; you know the earth is flat. :P.
.My brain looks delectable...
This is your brain:
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This is your brain on drugs:
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.It's about at this point in the movie where stereotypical black folks make some sort of reference to the strangeness of stereotypical white folks, based on the assumption that "if it's weird, then it must be white."
I thought Lastdays would show up here at the party but it looks like she got cold feet...............
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I keep an open mind. Currently not a flat earther, but always open to seeing new evidence.Good for you, Ladislaus!
On "open minds (https://www.chesterton.org/open-mind/)"...
And this is deplorable's "open mind" to things not so "solid..."Look at this picture you posted with the flat earth horizon in the background; you must be a flat earther.
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Look at this picture you posted with the flat earth horizon in the background; you must be a flat earther.Brilliant!
Brilliant!.
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There it is for all to see, that pesky flat and horizontal horizon.
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WHERE IS DA CURVATURE? WHERE??
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.Your really trying to bend that one. ;)
Diabolical disorientation demonstration! When a flat-earther says "brilliant" what he means is "retarded."
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Retarded!
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Now, THAT makes sense. ;)
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Look at this picture you posted with the flat earth horizon in the background; you must be a flat earther.I'm pretty sure it's CGI...
I'm pretty sure it's CGI...He's using reverse psychology. ;)
I'm pretty sure it's CGI...Oh sure, but NASA's are real, right?
Oh sure, but NASA's are real, right?Those aren't CGI too? I thought you said they were? So, they're not? :confused:
Those aren't CGI too? I thought you said they were? So, they're not? :confused:That's the point. Picures from NASA are cgi. But that should have been obvious for even the most dull witted.
Look at the effects of that picture; do you mean to say that photo was not touched in any way?
The humility is almost palpable....
And this is deplorable's "open mind" to things not so "solid...".
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Busy with other things Mr. 13,800+ posts.(http://quotesnhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Burn-Meme-3.jpg)
Seems that you and Neil like to pretend that males are girls. Thanks for the confirm. I hope that everyone else, esp. the site owners, considers what is written here very carefully, and what it implies.(https://www.viralviralvideos.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/79930926-1.jpg)
Hey Dizzy (I mean DZ). It seems as if you've been spinning on your ball earth a little to long. Non-Catholics such as yourself always have priority. The problem is that none of you want to listen. You would rather play with your triage crayons, yeah?Haha, Looks like Lastdays gave you a burn too...
Seems that you and Neil like to pretend that males are girls. Thanks for the confirm. I hope that everyone else, esp. the site owners, considers what is written here very carefully, and what it implies.
And what has the Church told us about the shape of the Earth? Please quote it. Nobody ever does. I keep asking but nothing. Listening to the Church implies that the Church has said something about the shape. Where is it?It does not say explicitly. But neither does scripture say Our Lady was Immaculately conceived. The conclusion comes not only from scripture, but from notable saints like St. John Chrysostom, St. Jerome, Moses, Enoch, Severanius, Cosmas, St. Augustine as well as from the Church's condemnation of heliocentrism. Not to mention the trajectory and source of the accepted pagan model which is anarchy. It then becomes clear with infallible teachings like Jerusalem being the center of the earth and that there are no antipodes, along with a reasonable, literal interpretation of scripture along with science and reason, that earth is flat.
I don't want the teaching about the Scriptures from Trent because that implies that the Sacred Scriptures say explicitly what the shape of the Earth is. They do not.
“When anyone finds a doctrine clearly established in Augustine, he can absolutely hold it and teach it, disregarding any bull of the pope.”If Augustine were the only Catholic flat earther, you would have a case.
Jansenists' error 30, condemned by Pope Alexander VIII
It does not say explicitly. But neither does scripture say Our Lady was Immaculately conceived. The conclusion comes not only from scripture, but from notable saints like St. John Chrysostom, St. Jerome, Moses, Enoch, Severanius, Cosmas, St. Augustine as well as from the Church's condemnation of heliocentrism. Not to mention the trajectory and source of the accepted pagan model which is anarchy. It then becomes clear with infallible teachings like Jerusalem being the center of the earth and that there are no antipodes, along with a reasonable, literal interpretation of scripture along with science and reason, that earth is flat.
If Augustine were the only Catholic flat earther, you would have a case.God help you.
God help you.
Busy with other things Mr. 13,800+ posts..
Prots play with similar erector sets and build similar "conclusions."
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Doesn't someone speaking with the full authority of the Magisterium say that somewhere . . . yeah . . . hold on . . . I'll come back if you don't get it before then.
Perhaps you can come back and show me where someone speaking similarly with Church authority said, "flat earth."
God help you.
It's comments such as that which further evidence at least one of two things:
1. They're dumb as dog droppings.
2. They're pernicious liars. Why this? When they can play "scripture twister" with the "best" of (other?) Protestants all day long, demonstrating incredible levels of eisegetics, making scripture say what they bloody well want it to...
... but see/acknowledging the actual principle and intent of a papal condemnation?
No, you get this kind of DIABOLIC drivel from the likes of crappinhigh.
Lady, you're a real piece of work.
We believe that we are pleasing God when we defend His creation..
Dude,
I didn't say "globe earth." I said to FEer's, "where's the beef?" You have lots of buns and pickles, but no beef.
And forget the "they." And forget the exactitude of "flat earth." You can show me the Church's magisterium saying, "pancake," "circle" or some equivalent authoritative teaching to the effect that the earth is, well, "flat."
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It's not to your discredit to INTEND to "defend God's creation."
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The problem is you're not paying attention to the facts of reality before your eyes and instead proclaim the subjective reality that's in your mind.
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Provide a model of your "flat earth" that shows why we see the phases of the moon (and other things) that we in fact see in the sky.
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You guys keep accusing everyone else of using "fake CGI" images of the earth when we try to explain the cosmos, but you have never been able to provide anything better than cartoons for your own propositions, and the cartoons you provide don't support what you claim.
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Even when you say you intend to defend God's creation, you end up making a MOCKERY of God's creation -- making claims that cannot be supported.
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Your facts are the facts of secular humanism. Secular humanism does not teach that God created the heavens and the earth..
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My facts are the reality you can see by opening your eyes and using your mind.
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Thanks, but I'm not interested in seeing the world through the lens, or perspective, of secular humanism.
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You're equating what you see when you open your eyes and use your mind with "secular humanism?"
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With my own eyes I can see that the earth is a flat plain. No curve. Objects which are supposed to be too far away (given the fictional curvature) to be seen with our eyes can actually be seen. No evidence of a curvature from any viewpoint that I can see..
.So, the lady really did get sawed in half? That's awful!
And therefore you have decided that anything that would make a problem for your already-decided flat-earthism you will have no part of, since you've already made up your mind. Correct?
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IOW -- you have already made up your mind, so you won't be confused with any facts.
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And therefore you have decided that anything that would make a problem for your already-decided flat-earthism you will have no part of, since you've already made up your mind. Correct?
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IOW -- you have already made up your mind, so you won't be confused with any facts.
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You've chosen to "just make s^&t up"; that's your go-to choice.
You've chosen to believe that modern science has all the "facts." That's your choice, not mine.
.You are aware that all FE people here are former globe earthers, yes?
And therefore you have decided that anything that would make a problem for your already-decided flat-earthism you will have no part of, since you've already made up your mind. Correct?
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IOW -- you have already made up your mind, so you won't be confused with any facts.
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You are aware that all FE people here are former globe earthers, yes?1. Distinctions:
Therefore, they were not "already decided."
You've chosen to "just make s^&t up"; that's your go-to choice.
You are aware that all FE people here are former globe earthers, yes?Huh... I always had a different understanding of original sin...
Therefore, they were not "already decided."
Huh... I always had a different understanding of original sin...Actually the earth never turned flat; God created the earth flat.
So in your religion, the earth turns flat when you're "born again?"
I don't think that the flat earth can be said to be something that's made up by me. The belief in a flat earth was held by most Catholics for the first 1500 years of the Church. The flat earth existed long before any of us were born, and it was created by God, and it's described in Scripture, though Scripture doesn't specifically say..."the earth is a flat plane."You're either:
The ancient Hebrews believed that the earth is a flat plane, with the firmament above, and the waters above the firmament. This is how they interpreted Scripture - the very same Scripture that we are supposed to accept, even though the Church has not specifically ruled on the shape of the earth.
If early Christians thought that way, we might all be Arians or Nestorians etc. Another example would be the definition of Papal Infallibility. No Pope exercised his power (ex Cathedra or through a General Council) on that subject for over 1800 years. So, just because there have been no infallible declarations by a Pope on the shape of the earth does not mean that the matter is unimportant or not relative to salvation.Were there even any Church Fathers who preached against Papal Infallibility? Were there any who thought it didn't exist?
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Meg, what specifically was my response to?
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I don't think that the flat earth can be said to be something that's made up by me. The belief in a flat earth was held by most Catholics for the first 1500 years of the Church. The flat earth existed long before any of us were born, and it was created by God, and it's described in Scripture, though Scripture doesn't specifically say..."the earth is a flat plane.".
The ancient Hebrews believed that the earth is a flat plane, with the firmament above, and the waters above the firmament. This is how they interpreted Scripture - the very same Scripture that we are supposed to accept, even though the Church has not specifically ruled on the shape of the earth.
.Right and that is what they want in the NWO, Islamism.
The ancient Hebrews had a lot of problems. They never got around to establishing a canon of Sacred Scripture, for example. They liked to talk about Scripture and they quoted from "the Scriptures" but by the time of Christ what one Jєω meant by "scripture" was not what another meant by "scripture." So there was a lot of confusion.
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Our Lord set things straight by His example, when He always referred to the Septuagint version of Scripture whenever He quoted from "Scripture."
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A lot of ancient Hebrews did not believe in an afterlife. Does that mean there might not be any afterlife, after all, that's what (some) ancient Hebrews believed.
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There never were ANY ancient Hebrews who believed in God as a Trinity of three divine persons having one substance. So is that what we should believe too?
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The ancient Hebrews had no particular use for virginity as an aspect of religious practice. The High Priest was never a virgin and there was no order of women or of men who were consecrated virgins in the Hebrew religion from the time of Adam. So is that what we should be doing, too?
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The fact that Jesus had no wife and lived the example of consecrated virginity was actually a scandal to the Hebrews of His time and the mere thought that this would become some kind of new teaching was a great impediment for them because not unlike the Harvey Weinsteins of today, their god was their belly and they worshiped their libido and that's the way they liked it, thank you very much.
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The ancient Hebrews did not have any desire or intention or even a calling from God to spread their faith to the world. Those other guys out there who were not of God's "chosen people" were called Gentiles, or "strangers." The ancient Hebrews had nothing to do with them, if they could help it. So should we imitate them and shut down the missions immediately?
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You guys keep saying that "God made the earth flat" but you don't have any Scripture to back that up. There is a Koran verse, though, that literally says that the earth was made flat (Quran 88:17-20).
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Are you actually crypto-Moslems pretending to be Catholic?
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Right and that is what they want in the NWO, Islamism.That is why globe eathers worship the freemasonic globe earth deception.
What on earth are you getting at , Dizzy?Are you a mental health professional Meg, of even the common, Jєω-Jєω man, witch doctor variety?
You've been asked before if you are somewhere on the autism spectrum. It would be really nice if you could address this. Are you autistic? That would explain a few things. Do you have Aspergers Syndrome? I ask this in all seriousness.
That is why globe eathers worship the freemasonic globe earth deception.Uses the word "worship" like a Pr... oh, right.
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The ancient Hebrews had a lot of problems. They never got around to establishing a canon of Sacred Scripture, for example. They liked to talk about Scripture and they quoted from "the Scriptures" but by the time of Christ what one Jєω meant by "scripture" was not what another meant by "scripture." So there was a lot of confusion.
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Our Lord set things straight by His example, when He always referred to the Septuagint version of Scripture whenever He quoted from "Scripture."
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A lot of ancient Hebrews did not believe in an afterlife. Does that mean there might not be any afterlife, after all, that's what (some) ancient Hebrews believed.
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There never were ANY ancient Hebrews who believed in God as a Trinity of three divine persons having one substance. So is that what we should believe too?
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The ancient Hebrews had no particular use for virginity as an aspect of religious practice. The High Priest was never a virgin and there was no order of women or of men who were consecrated virgins in the Hebrew religion from the time of Adam. So is that what we should be doing, too?
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The fact that Jesus had no wife and lived the example of consecrated virginity was actually a scandal to the Hebrews of His time and the mere thought that this would become some kind of new teaching was a great impediment for them because not unlike the Harvey Weinsteins of today, their god was their belly and they worshiped their libido and that's the way they liked it, thank you very much.
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The ancient Hebrews did not have any desire or intention or even a calling from God to spread their faith to the world. Those other guys out there who were not of God's "chosen people" were called Gentiles, or "strangers." The ancient Hebrews had nothing to do with them, if they could help it. So should we imitate them and shut down the missions immediately?
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You guys keep saying that "God made the earth flat" but you don't have any Scripture to back that up. There is a Koran verse, though, that literally says that the earth was made flat (Quran 88:17-20).
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Are you actually crypto-Moslems pretending to be Catholic?
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That is why globe eathers worship the freemasonic globe earth deception..
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You've chosen to believe that modern science has all the "facts." That's your choice, not mine.
Precisely.
Dizzy is seriously in need of prayers. I have no doubt.
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On the contrary, I have made objective observations myself, and I have tested them. Those are the facts.
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Furthermore, the fact is that flat-earthers refuse to make the same simple observations and they refuse to think about what happens when they're tested. Consequently, it is YOUR CHOICE, to ignore the reality before your eyes, not my choice.
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You have taken by choice, consolation in that what you see right now is all you need to see, and then you believe that you don't need to see anything else. You only look at the horizon and say that it looks "flat" and that's the end of it. You have not come up with any example of what it SHOULD look like if the earth were not flat. That's because you have chosen to not think about what you would expect to see.
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For you, the mere thought about what you ought to see if the earth were not flat is "heresy."
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You might as well be a Moslem.
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Are you a mental health professional Meg, of even the common, Jєω-Jєω man, witch doctor variety?
I ask this in all seriousness.
You really need to get your head out of the sand..
Dizzy is seriously in need of prayers. I have no doubt.
Since you didn't answer, I'm going to assume that you have autism..
Since you didn't answer, I'm going to assume that you have autism.
I agree. To have a disability is one thing (such as autism), but to not recognize when one is mentally limited by the disability is another..
Precisely."Precisely"
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So that's the problem with you -- you're unable to recognize when you're mentally limited by your own disability!
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For mistakenly identifying meg as "lucid?"She is, on other subjects; that's why it's all but impossible to conclude other than she's just another bad willed liar.
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Even non-Catholics have to ability to see some of the truth.Then maybe you'll zip it, slap on a hijab, and get in the house with the other wives now.
"Precisely"
"You have stupid hair, that's why cheese!"
"Precisely"
Since you didn't answer, I'm going to assume that you have autism.It wouldn't have stopped you assuming whatever served your purposes, regardless.
She is, on other subjects; that's why it's all but impossible to conclude other than she's just another bad willed liar.
She is, on other subjects; that's why it's all but impossible to conclude other than she's just another bad willed liar.
Hey, here's a thought then; don't "take" me at all, that way you won't feel the need to abuse either your own soul or the handicapped?
Too "autistic" for you, liar?
IN crayon, "Ignore me, and shut your figurative mouth should you feel the urge to do otherwise."
Deal?
Said by someone with autism, probably Aspergers. Makes it difficult to take you seriously.Speaking of yourself ... are you?
No deal."The Jєω cries as they strike."
If a handicapped person such as yourself keeps challenging me, and others, I'm still going to defend myself (and others).
"The Jєω cries as they strike."
I'm not Jєωιѕн. I'm of 100% European ethnicity - British, Scandinavian, Irish, and a little Spanish/Portuguese and Greek/Italian. How about you?Spoken just like a...
Why would you assume that in order to defend oneself and others against your challenges and abuse, that this means that a person is Jєωιѕн? Aren't non-Jєωs allowed to defend Truth?
Spoken just like a...
.I was taught the Hebrews had consecrated Temple virgins and the Blessed Virgin Mary was one of them.
The ancient Hebrews had no particular use for virginity as an aspect of religious practice. The High Priest was never a virgin and there was no order of women or of men who were consecrated virgins in the Hebrew religion from the time of Adam. So is that what we should be doing, too?
I knew there was a reason you don't have a wife.I don't?
I found evidence that the sun really is close and embedded in the firmament:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnH-d1rga5I