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Offline Truth is Eternal

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Re: Welcome to our newest FE'er: Lastdays
« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2017, 12:13:03 PM »
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  • Huh... I always had a different understanding of original sin...
    So in your religion, the earth turns flat when you're "born again?"
    Actually the earth never turned flat; God created the earth flat.
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    Re: Welcome to our newest FE'er: Lastdays
    « Reply #61 on: October 18, 2017, 12:32:37 PM »
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  • I don't think that the flat earth can be said to be something that's made up by me. The belief in a flat earth was held by most Catholics for the first 1500 years of the Church. The flat earth existed long before any of us were born, and it was created by God, and it's described in Scripture, though Scripture doesn't specifically say..."the earth is a flat plane."

    The ancient Hebrews believed that the earth is a flat plane, with the firmament above, and the waters above the firmament. This is how they interpreted Scripture - the very same Scripture that we are supposed to accept, even though the Church has not specifically ruled on the shape of the earth.
    You're either:
    1. Lying and/or
    2. Being obtuse.

    As I just finished reading you being very lucid, I'm leaning towards you just being a liar.

    What, specifically, was my response to Meg?
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Welcome to our newest FE'er: Lastdays
    « Reply #62 on: October 18, 2017, 01:22:24 PM »
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  • If early Christians thought that way, we might all be Arians or Nestorians etc. Another example would be the definition of Papal Infallibility. No Pope exercised his power (ex Cathedra or through a General Council) on that subject for over 1800 years. So, just because there have been no infallible declarations by a Pope on the shape of the earth does not mean that the matter is unimportant or not relative to salvation.
    Were there even any Church Fathers who preached against Papal Infallibility? Were there any who thought it didn't exist?
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    « Reply #63 on: October 18, 2017, 01:55:40 PM »
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    Meg, what specifically was my response to?
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    "Lord, have mercy".

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    « Reply #64 on: October 18, 2017, 02:03:02 PM »
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  • (edited for clarity)

    What on earth are you getting at , Dizzy?

    You've been asked before if you are somewhere on the autism spectrum. It would be really nice if you could address this. Are you autistic? That would explain a few things. Do you have Aspergers Syndrome? I ask this in all seriousness.
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    Re: Welcome to our newest FE'er: Lastdays
    « Reply #65 on: October 18, 2017, 02:06:54 PM »
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  • I don't think that the flat earth can be said to be something that's made up by me. The belief in a flat earth was held by most Catholics for the first 1500 years of the Church. The flat earth existed long before any of us were born, and it was created by God, and it's described in Scripture, though Scripture doesn't specifically say..."the earth is a flat plane."

    The ancient Hebrews believed that the earth is a flat plane, with the firmament above, and the waters above the firmament. This is how they interpreted Scripture - the very same Scripture that we are supposed to accept, even though the Church has not specifically ruled on the shape of the earth.
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    The ancient Hebrews had a lot of problems. They never got around to establishing a canon of Sacred Scripture, for example. They liked to talk about Scripture and they quoted from "the Scriptures" but by the time of Christ what one Jєω meant by "scripture" was not what another meant by "scripture." So there was a lot of confusion. 
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    Our Lord set things straight by His example, when He always referred to the Septuagint version of Scripture whenever He quoted from "Scripture."
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    A lot of ancient Hebrews did not believe in an afterlife. Does that mean there might not be any afterlife, after all, that's what (some) ancient Hebrews believed.
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    There never were ANY ancient Hebrews who believed in God as a Trinity of three divine persons having one substance. So is that what we should believe too?
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    The ancient Hebrews had no particular use for virginity as an aspect of religious practice. The High Priest was never a virgin and there was no order of women or of men who were consecrated virgins in the Hebrew religion from the time of Adam. So is that what we should be doing, too? 
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    The fact that Jesus had no wife and lived the example of consecrated virginity was actually a scandal to the Hebrews of His time and the mere thought that this would become some kind of new teaching was a great impediment for them because not unlike the Harvey Weinsteins of today, their god was their belly and they worshiped their libido and that's the way they liked it, thank you very much.
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    The ancient Hebrews did not have any desire or intention or even a calling from God to spread their faith to the world. Those other guys out there who were not of God's "chosen people" were called Gentiles, or "strangers." The ancient Hebrews had nothing to do with them, if they could help it. So should we imitate them and shut down the missions immediately? 
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    You guys keep saying that "God made the earth flat" but you don't have any Scripture to back that up. There is a Koran verse, though, that literally says that the earth was made flat (Quran 88:17-20).
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    Are you actually crypto-Moslems pretending to be Catholic?
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    « Reply #66 on: October 18, 2017, 02:09:39 PM »
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  • The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government "space agencies" show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

    The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.

    The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.
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    Re: Welcome to our newest FE'er: Lastdays
    « Reply #67 on: October 18, 2017, 02:10:31 PM »
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    The ancient Hebrews had a lot of problems. They never got around to establishing a canon of Sacred Scripture, for example. They liked to talk about Scripture and they quoted from "the Scriptures" but by the time of Christ what one Jєω meant by "scripture" was not what another meant by "scripture." So there was a lot of confusion.
    .
    Our Lord set things straight by His example, when He always referred to the Septuagint version of Scripture whenever He quoted from "Scripture."
    .
    A lot of ancient Hebrews did not believe in an afterlife. Does that mean there might not be any afterlife, after all, that's what (some) ancient Hebrews believed.
    .
    There never were ANY ancient Hebrews who believed in God as a Trinity of three divine persons having one substance. So is that what we should believe too?
    .
    The ancient Hebrews had no particular use for virginity as an aspect of religious practice. The High Priest was never a virgin and there was no order of women or of men who were consecrated virgins in the Hebrew religion from the time of Adam. So is that what we should be doing, too?
    .
    The fact that Jesus had no wife and lived the example of consecrated virginity was actually a scandal to the Hebrews of His time and the mere thought that this would become some kind of new teaching was a great impediment for them because not unlike the Harvey Weinsteins of today, their god was their belly and they worshiped their libido and that's the way they liked it, thank you very much.
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    The ancient Hebrews did not have any desire or intention or even a calling from God to spread their faith to the world. Those other guys out there who were not of God's "chosen people" were called Gentiles, or "strangers." The ancient Hebrews had nothing to do with them, if they could help it. So should we imitate them and shut down the missions immediately?
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    You guys keep saying that "God made the earth flat" but you don't have any Scripture to back that up. There is a Koran verse, though, that literally says that the earth was made flat (Quran 88:17-20).
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    Are you actually crypto-Moslems pretending to be Catholic?
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    Right and that is what they want in the NWO, Islamism.
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    Re: Welcome to our newest FE'er: Lastdays
    « Reply #68 on: October 18, 2017, 02:12:43 PM »
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  • Right and that is what they want in the NWO, Islamism.
    That is why globe eathers worship the freemasonic globe earth deception.
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    « Reply #69 on: October 18, 2017, 02:22:40 PM »
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  • What on earth are you getting at , Dizzy?

    You've been asked before if you are somewhere on the autism spectrum. It would be really nice if you could address this. Are you autistic? That would explain a few things. Do you have Aspergers Syndrome? I ask this in all seriousness.
    Are you a mental health professional Meg, of even the common, Jєω-Jєω man, witch doctor variety? 

    I ask this in all seriousness.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    « Reply #70 on: October 18, 2017, 02:23:46 PM »
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  • That is why globe eathers worship the freemasonic globe earth deception.
    Uses the word "worship" like a Pr... oh, right.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Welcome to our newest FE'er: Lastdays
    « Reply #71 on: October 18, 2017, 02:37:52 PM »
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    The ancient Hebrews had a lot of problems. They never got around to establishing a canon of Sacred Scripture, for example. They liked to talk about Scripture and they quoted from "the Scriptures" but by the time of Christ what one Jєω meant by "scripture" was not what another meant by "scripture." So there was a lot of confusion.
    .
    Our Lord set things straight by His example, when He always referred to the Septuagint version of Scripture whenever He quoted from "Scripture."
    .
    A lot of ancient Hebrews did not believe in an afterlife. Does that mean there might not be any afterlife, after all, that's what (some) ancient Hebrews believed.
    .
    There never were ANY ancient Hebrews who believed in God as a Trinity of three divine persons having one substance. So is that what we should believe too?
    .
    The ancient Hebrews had no particular use for virginity as an aspect of religious practice. The High Priest was never a virgin and there was no order of women or of men who were consecrated virgins in the Hebrew religion from the time of Adam. So is that what we should be doing, too?
    .
    The fact that Jesus had no wife and lived the example of consecrated virginity was actually a scandal to the Hebrews of His time and the mere thought that this would become some kind of new teaching was a great impediment for them because not unlike the Harvey Weinsteins of today, their god was their belly and they worshiped their libido and that's the way they liked it, thank you very much.
    .
    The ancient Hebrews did not have any desire or intention or even a calling from God to spread their faith to the world. Those other guys out there who were not of God's "chosen people" were called Gentiles, or "strangers." The ancient Hebrews had nothing to do with them, if they could help it. So should we imitate them and shut down the missions immediately?
    .
    You guys keep saying that "God made the earth flat" but you don't have any Scripture to back that up. There is a Koran verse, though, that literally says that the earth was made flat (Quran 88:17-20).
    .
    Are you actually crypto-Moslems pretending to be Catholic?
    .








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    Re: Welcome to our newest FE'er: Lastdays
    « Reply #72 on: October 18, 2017, 02:42:53 PM »
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  • That is why globe eathers worship the freemasonic globe earth deception.
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    Flat-earthers get things backwards all the time so this is to be expected.
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    You guys should be very happy in the Moslem world you are working toward even if you're not aware of it.
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    Moslems teach the earth is flat so they can all face Mecca several times a day from everywhere in the world.
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    Anyone who refuses to face Mecca will be thrown in jail or perhaps will get beheaded on the spot.
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    « Reply #73 on: October 18, 2017, 03:02:38 PM »
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  • You've chosen to believe that modern science has all the "facts." That's your choice, not mine.
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    On the contrary, I have made objective observations myself, and I have tested them. Those are the facts.
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    Furthermore, the fact is that flat-earthers refuse to make the same simple observations and they refuse to think about what happens when they're tested. Consequently, it is YOUR CHOICE, to ignore the reality before your eyes, not my choice.
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    You have taken by choice, consolation in that what you see right now is all you need to see, and then you believe that you don't need to see anything else. You only look at the horizon and say that it looks "flat" and that's the end of it. You have not come up with any example of what it SHOULD look like if the earth were not flat. That's because you have chosen to not think about what you would expect to see. 
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    For you, the mere thought about what you ought to see if the earth were not flat is "heresy." 
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    You might as well be a Moslem.
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    « Reply #74 on: October 18, 2017, 03:03:44 PM »
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  • Precisely.

    "Lastdays'" "lastwords..."