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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2018, 11:12:12 PM »
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    Looks like the flat-earthers know when they can't answer the challenge, again. So what else is new?
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    The "very compelling" flat-earth video according to Ladislaus isn't "compelling" at all, as it turns out. 
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    But true to form, Ladislaus is too embarrassed to show up, because he can't defend his losing position. 
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    His talent at "shredding a bad argument" looks like another false claim in the end, because he can't shred squat.
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #46 on: July 11, 2018, 06:42:16 PM »
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  • Answering religious followers of the pagan religion is a fruitless endevour.  Truth is for those who are humble enough to learn. 


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #47 on: July 14, 2018, 05:26:15 AM »
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    Still no answer to the challenge, only more mundane canards and false platitudes, adding to the already long list!
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    Flat-earthers make a mockery of Scripture and scandalize children (cf. Matt. xviii. 6). They should be forbidden from procreation.
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    But true to form, Ladislaus is too embarrassed to show up, because he can't defend his losing position.
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    His talent at "shredding a bad argument" looks like another false claim in the end, because he can't shred squat.
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #48 on: July 18, 2018, 09:00:06 AM »
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  • Flat-earthers make a mockery of Scripture and scandalize children (cf. Matt. xviii. 6). They should be forbidden from procreation.

    Idiot.

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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #49 on: July 18, 2018, 09:01:16 AM »
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  • But true to form, Ladislaus is too embarrassed to show up, because he can't defend his losing position.

    Uhm, I don't come in here as often because these threads don't show up on the Recent list.  Stop acting like a spoiled baby ... and I might be more inclined to listen to what you have to say.


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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #50 on: July 20, 2018, 07:40:23 AM »
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  • Uhm, I don't come in here as often because these threads don't show up on the Recent list.  Stop acting like a spoiled baby ... and I might be more inclined to listen to what you have to say.
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    Dropping in for a few seconds to hurl some more epithets, are you?
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    Answer why your "compelling" video fails to show the sun using a solar filter. 
    Anyone can do what you're so impressed with using a cheap camera in a dark room.
    The overexposure of the bright light makes it look bigger when the light is only a small part of the center.
    But use the proper filter and you see the light does not "rise" at all when you zoom in.
    It's a cheap parlor trick.
    But in any case, you can't make the sun come BACK after it SETS by zooming in. 
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #51 on: July 20, 2018, 07:41:23 AM »
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    Flat-earthers make a mockery of Scripture and scandalize children (cf. Matt. xviii. 6). They should be forbidden from procreation.

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    What's the matter, Ladislaus, having trouble shredding an argument again?
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #52 on: August 08, 2018, 02:22:49 PM »
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    No, the problem you're having is you can't answer the questions.
    So you run and hide behind excuses, while you hurl ad hominems to see what sticks.
    You can't stand up to the heat, so it's best you get out of the kitchen.
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    Prove me wrong by showing how you can make the sun come "back" AFTER it sets.
    (After means after, not before.)                          
    If you find it so "compelling" that a zoom lens (you say) brings a ship "back" from over the horizon, then do it with the sun!
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    I'll check back in a month.
    Or, I'll check to find no answer from Mr. "I'm very good at shredding bad arguments to pieces" Ladislaus.
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    Still no answer from "I'm very good at shredding bad arguments to pieces" Ladislaus. 
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    Throwing in the towel, then? 
    Apparently so, but not honest enough to admit defeat. Just run and hide! And use the forum list for an excuse! 
    All righty, then!
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #53 on: August 08, 2018, 02:25:10 PM »
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  • Uhm, I don't come in here as often because these threads don't show up on the Recent list.  Stop acting like a spoiled baby ... and I might be more inclined to listen to what you have to say.
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    It takes one to know one:  Ladislaus the spoiled baby, hides from the challenge!
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #54 on: August 17, 2018, 03:30:49 AM »
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    Speaking of compelling video, how's this for compelling?
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLHq86xM68msPyfIkpvUVgdb1c3fGfWYsi&v=V8m1u2ORXmE

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    ..........such revolting levels of dishonesty as in this ridiculous flat-earth movement............
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    Explained below the posted video on the YouTube channel page:
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    This channel is effectively closed. I am bored of flat Earth and everyone involved in it. It is an utter joke, and I am sick of reading the same lies, day in day out, from flat Earthers. Flat Earthers should be treated with derision and contempt. The very act of entering into a discussion with them is to extend to them a level of respect that they do not deserve. They lie, they manipulate, they distort information, they invent pseudoscientific ideas. Everything that comes from the flat Earth community should be dismissed as white noise. They thrive on their notoriety, and the abuse they incur. I have never encountered a phenomenon even remotely similar. Flat Earthers are revolting excuses for human beings.

    Out of interest, I will list some of the reasons that we know the Earth is, without any shadow of a doubt, a sphere.

    Viewed with a solar filter, the sun is the exact same size in the sky at all times and at all locations. On an equinox, it rises due east and sets due west everywhere on Earth. When there are sun spots, the same sun spots are visible everywhere on Earth, indicating that the same face of the sun is visible everywhere on Earth. The sun also moves with a constant speed across the sky. The only sane conclusion from these observations is that the sun is a large distant object. If the sun is a distant object then all the light from it is approximately parallel, yet we know that the sun's position in the sky varies as we move across the surface of the Earth, indicating that observers in different locations are at angles to each other. This indicates that the Earth is a sphere.

    At any given moment the sun is directly overhead somewhere on Earth. As you move away from this location, the sun drops in the sky. The distance from where the sun is directly overhead is directly proportional to the angle that the sun deviates from the vertical. This is the exact relationship you would expect on a spherical Earth with a distant sun.

    There are two sets of circuмpolar stars. One in the south, and one in the north. In the north they rotate anti-clockwise, in the south they rotate clockwise. By measuring the angle of elevation of the centre of rotation, you can know how many degrees north or south of the equator you are. That only makes sense on a spherical Earth.

    At different latitudes, different stars are visible. For example, Polaris is only visible in the Northern Hemisphere. Also, there are different stars visible in summer than in winter, because the sun moves relative to the background stars.

    We have very accurately mapped the entire surface of the Earth, as is evidenced by our ability to navigate from any location to any other location. The geography of the Earth can only fit on the surface of a sphere, as can be seen on Google Earth.

    If you are on the equator facing east and you start moving in a straight line, you will follow the equator all the way round. If you are on any other line of latitude facing east and you start moving in a straight line, you will eventually reach the equator. All lines of latitude are parallel, yet apart from the equator, they form curved lines on the surface of the Earth. That is only possible on a sphere. You can satisfy yourself this is true by considering paths that the sun describes over the surface of the Earth.

    The spherical Earth/heliocentric model can be used to predict the exact path that the sun will follow across the sky on any given day of the year at any latitude. There is also a perfect north/south symmetry in our observations of the sun.

    Ships disappear over the horizon. Yep, it's an old one, but despite the lies they come out with, flat Earthers have never explained it - and no, you can't bring it back into view with telescope.
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #55 on: August 22, 2018, 03:47:50 PM »
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  • Total failure to address the video while claiming flat earthers all believe in the AE map shows contempt of truth.    


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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #56 on: September 10, 2018, 01:32:22 AM »
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  • Total failure to address the video while claiming flat earthers all believe in the AE map shows contempt of truth.    
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    Thank you for supporting the globe.
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #57 on: September 10, 2018, 01:37:44 AM »
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    Viewed with a solar filter, the sun is the exact same size in the sky at all times, as seen from all locations on earth. On an equinox, it rises due east and sets due west everywhere on Earth, without exception. When there are sunspots, the same sunspots are visible everywhere on Earth, indicating that the same face of the sun is visible everywhere on Earth. All the phases of the moon, Venus and Mars are visible from anywhere on earth (where they can be seen), appearing to all observers in the same way at the same time. The sun also moves with a constant speed across the sky. The only sane conclusion from these observations is that the sun is a large distant object. If the sun is a distant object, then all the light from it is approximately parallel, yet we know that the sun's position in the sky varies as we move across the surface of the Earth, and the specific MANNER in which it varies indicates that observers in different locations are at angles to each other as they would be in the case of a spherical earth. This indicates that the Earth is spheroidial.
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