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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2018, 03:17:23 PM »
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  • Neil , shouldn't you be outside measuring the angle of the moon or something??
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    Oh, looky here, if it isn't Smugly the Butthead, who can't answer the questions either! 
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    Where is your video showing how you can bring the sun "back" after it sets?
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #16 on: July 01, 2018, 03:23:00 PM »
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  • Certainly the most compelling evidence in favor of flat earth is how we can see things from much father away than curvature math would allow.  And the typical response is that it's a mirage or it's refraction.  That's why I haven't been able to be 100% sure of flat earth.  But the one guy had his video trained on Chicago for 40 miles out across Lake Michigan and kept it in view the entire time, positively ruling out refraction/mirage.  Now, unless he completely faked the experience, that kind of thing is compelling evidence.  I found the longer video to which this referred briefly.
    Yes.
    I also really enjoyed the flight paths shown at the 24:00 mark.
    If you think of it, there is no reason that there should be no cross-ocean flights in the southern hemisphere. Why is it all flights are over the landmass? 
    Makes no sense if it were a globe.


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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #17 on: July 01, 2018, 04:26:06 PM »
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  • Neil , shouldn't you be outside measuring the angle of the moon or something??

    Sounds like he needs a couple doses of Midol.

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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #18 on: July 01, 2018, 04:32:53 PM »
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  • Yes.
    I also really enjoyed the flight paths shown at the 24:00 mark.
    If you think of it, there is no reason that there should be no cross-ocean flights in the southern hemisphere. Why is it all flights are over the landmass?
    Makes no sense if it were a globe.

    I actually looked into how long 747s can fly without refueling thinking that perhaps it was too long a flight over water, but it wasn't.  747s can fly well beyond trans-ocean flight path.

    There was another guy who had a video where he pulled news articles of a lady who was giving birth on a flight and said that the flight made an emergency landing in Alaska.  But Alaska was a huge distance from the globe-earth flight path, but right there near the flat-earth flight path.  On the globe earth, there would have been a couple of much better places to land.

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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #19 on: July 01, 2018, 04:45:04 PM »
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    Oh, looky here, if it isn't Smugly the Butthead, who can't answer the questions either!
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    Where is your video showing how you can bring the sun "back" after it sets?

    I'm glad that you asked.



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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #20 on: July 01, 2018, 08:17:06 PM »
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  • Sounds like he needs a couple doses of Midol.
    Somebody get him a pint of Ben & Jerry's and a hot water bottle to go with it.

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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #21 on: July 01, 2018, 08:19:02 PM »
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  • I'm glad that you asked.


    Ah, yes, there it is. 

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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #22 on: July 01, 2018, 08:34:12 PM »
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  • I actually looked into how long 747s can fly without refueling thinking that perhaps it was too long a flight over water, but it wasn't.  747s can fly well beyond trans-ocean flight path.

    There was another guy who had a video where he pulled news articles of a lady who was giving birth on a flight and said that the flight made an emergency landing in Alaska.  But Alaska was a huge distance from the globe-earth flight path, but right there near the flat-earth flight path.  On the globe earth, there would have been a couple of much better places to land.
    I spent some time reading about Boeing 777's which have the longest range at 8, 500 -9, 000 nm.
    The nonstop flights from LAX to SYD take 15 hours. Their top speed is about 600mph. But that would not be their average speed. That's probably closer to 450-500mph.
    Its interesting to note we can only fly 6, 500-7, 000nm without a stop.
    This is why they are following the landmasses on their routes: the distance across oceans between the southern continents exceed 6, 500nm.
    They can't fulfill the range.


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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #23 on: July 01, 2018, 08:43:42 PM »
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  • The reported distance from Johannesburg to Santiago is 5, 000nm across the southern ocean. That would be an easy flight. But they don't.
    Instead they fly 8, 000nm
    via Senegal.

    Why?

    Because the actual distance across the southern ocean far exceeds 5, 000nm.


    www.distancefromto.net

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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #24 on: July 02, 2018, 04:37:50 AM »
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    Most southern hemisphere flights that are shown with stopovers in the northern hemisphere are doing that because the so-called flight is actually two flights, and the passengers going from Johannesburg to Santiago (or other similar cities) have to transfer to a different plane at the stopover. The reason is, there is not enough demand for flights from Johannesburg to Santiago (or similar cities) to make regular direct flights practical. Airlines don't like to keep flights active when they can't sell all the seats and end up flying with too many empty seats.
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    Of course, inconvenient details like that are very tempting for flat-earthers to ignore or overlook. Perhaps they think it's fun to pretend the reality is otherwise while they intentionally leave out important information with the intent to deceive.
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    In other words, we're being lied to. Can you imagine flat-earthers lying to us? Amazing! While they complain that NASA is lying to us.
    Maybe this is flat-earthers' way of getting even, or "it's payback time?"
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #25 on: July 02, 2018, 04:42:04 AM »
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  • I'm glad that you asked.


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    Oh, that again. The no-solar filter, overexposed sun video when the sun hasn't set yet! 
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    Pay attention for once. I said AFTER the sun sets, not before. This video does not show the sun AFTER it sets.
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    And without a solar filter the sun appears much larger zoomed out. You can do this with a cheap camera too. 
    You don't even need the sun. You can get the same effect with a flashlight in a dark room.
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #26 on: July 02, 2018, 04:53:44 AM »
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  • I actually looked into how long 747s can fly without refueling thinking that perhaps it was too long a flight over water, but it wasn't.  747s can fly well beyond trans-ocean flight path.

    There was another guy who had a video where he pulled news articles of a lady who was giving birth on a flight and said that the flight made an emergency landing in Alaska.  But Alaska was a huge distance from the globe-earth flight path, but right there near the flat-earth flight path.  On the globe earth, there would have been a couple of much better places to land.
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    There was a flight from Japan to DFW that stopped in Alaska for a maternity emergency, but the flight path took the plane to within 200 miles of Anchorage along the Great Circle route from Japan to Texas, so it was the closest place to land for a medical emergency.
    The "globe-earth flight path" isn't always what you might think it is. Many times they don't use a totally GC route for many reasons.
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    https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/37748/why-might-this-trans-pacific-flight-not-follow-a-more-direct-route

    American Airlines 127 Thursday 04-May-2017
    Compared to great circle route:

    Very rarely does a flight follow the great circle route all the way. Every day the route is changed due to winds - you want to find the tailwinds and avoid the headwinds. Other considerations include airspace restrictions (China is notoriously bad for that), ETOPS, or weather. – Ben May 5 '17 at 6:46
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #27 on: July 02, 2018, 05:04:25 AM »
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  • I spent some time reading about Boeing 777's which have the longest range at 8, 500 -9, 000 nm.
    The nonstop flights from LAX to SYD take 15 hours. Their top speed is about 600mph. But that would not be their average speed. That's probably closer to 450-500mph.
    Its interesting to note we can only fly 6, 500-7, 000nm without a stop.
    This is why they are following the landmasses on their routes: the distance across oceans between the southern continents exceed 6, 500nm.
    They can't fulfill the range.
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    You had better get real busy to find out why the coming circuмpolar flight is impossible, because it's going to happen in October, even if flat-earthers think it won't.
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    New York - Río Gallegos - (passing over south pole) - Perth - Beijing - (passing over north pole) - New York.
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    Hurry up! You only have another 3-1/2 months before you run out of time doing your research.
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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #28 on: July 02, 2018, 08:40:00 AM »
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    Most southern hemisphere flights that are shown with stopovers in the northern hemisphere are doing that because the so-called flight is actually two flights, and the passengers going from Johannesburg to Santiago (or other similar cities) have to transfer to a different plane at the stopover. The reason is, there is not enough demand for flights from Johannesburg to Santiago (or similar cities) to make regular direct flights practical. Airlines don't like to keep flights active when they can't sell all the seats and end up flying with too many empty seats.
    .
    Of course, inconvenient details like that are very tempting for flat-earthers to ignore or overlook. Perhaps they think it's fun to pretend the reality is otherwise while they intentionally leave out important information with the intent to deceive.
    .
    In other words, we're being lied to. Can you imagine flat-earthers lying to us? Amazing! While they complain that NASA is lying to us.
    Maybe this is flat-earthers' way of getting even, or "it's payback time?"
    "Not enough demand" is a TOTAL lie.
    Airlines do everything to make money. Fuel costs MONEY. 
    They are NOT going to fly  an 8, 000nm "V" into the north, if they can fly a 5, 000nm STRAIGHT LINE in the south.
    But they don't and they can't because it is not 5, 000nm.
    And this is not confined to one route: there are NO NONSTOP trans-ocean flights in the southern hemisphere between ANY cities.
     

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    Re: Very Compelling Flat Earth Video
    « Reply #29 on: July 02, 2018, 12:59:25 PM »
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    You had better get real busy to find out why the coming circuмpolar flight is impossible, because it's going to happen in October, even if flat-earthers think it won't.
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    New York - Río Gallegos - (passing over south pole) - Perth - Beijing - (passing over north pole) - New York.
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    Hurry up! You only have another 3-1/2 months before you run out of time doing your research.
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    This "circuмpolar" flight promoters are denying any scientific testing for the event proving it is a waste of money SCAM.