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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2023, 10:51:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on January 24, 2023, 07:57:30 PM
    And FE discredits Geocentrism. 😝

    No it doesn't.  But many of you refuse to consider the evidence for FE with an open mind, because you're brainwashed.
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #16 on: January 25, 2023, 12:08:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 24, 2023, 10:51:25 PM
    No it doesn't.  But many of you refuse to consider the evidence for FE with an open mind, because you're brainwashed.

    I’m not going to get into it with you again, I was just funning you. 😆
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #17 on: January 25, 2023, 12:22:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on January 25, 2023, 12:08:09 AM
    I’m not going to get into it with you again, I was just funning you. 😆

    You may have been joking, I'll have to take your word on that. But let's just say "don't quit your day job".

    Making a highly debatable statement (which many believe to be false), about 2 topics that are hotly argued over, isn't going to raise so much as a chuckle from ANY side in the debate. Like I said: if that's your attempt at humor, don't quit your job to attempt a comedy career any time soon.
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #18 on: January 25, 2023, 12:41:45 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on January 25, 2023, 12:22:31 AM
    You may have been joking, I'll have to take your word on that. But let's just say "don't quit your day job".

    Making a highly debatable statement (which many believe to be false), about 2 topics that are hotly argued over, isn't going to raise so much as a chuckle from ANY side in the debate. Like I said: if that's your attempt at humor, don't quit your job to attempt a comedy career any time soon.

    If you look into past threads you will see that I’ve theorized that FE was put out there to muddy the waters for those who may look into the truth of geocentrism. I’ve also stated that I will take a more serious look at it when and if anyone can provide a *real* working model. I’ll preemptively state that the Gleason map obviously doesn’t pass muster. I thought it was funny, but to set your mind at ease, I don’t plan on quitting my day job. 😁
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #19 on: January 25, 2023, 12:43:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: Philothea3 on January 22, 2023, 11:32:31 PM
    Just came across the topic from a FE channel and wondering what people think about it before I further dive into it. I think in summary their theory is that all mountains are cut off trees by angels before the Flood. As for evidence... Because it looks like it? :confused:




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    It should be obvious that mountains are an order of magnitude larger than trees, so no, mountains have nothing to do with trees.

    But the similarity between mountains and trees is evident. I'm not sure what to answer to this, but I've heard of fractal patterns and how they recur constantly in nature, and I don't think scientists completely understand why, but it's definitely a known phenomenon. I think there are physical forces that result somehow in fractal patterns, and the forces that create(d?) mountains and trees are similar, that's the best I can tell you. I'd suggest a search of fractal patterns.
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #20 on: January 25, 2023, 07:16:24 AM »
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    • I think this "theory" undermines FE. I recall seeing it in that "What on Earth Happened?" series and thinking it was retarded
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #21 on: January 25, 2023, 12:45:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on January 25, 2023, 12:43:33 AM
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    It should be obvious that mountains are an order of magnitude larger than trees, so no, mountains have nothing to do with trees.

    But the similarity between mountains and trees is evident. I'm not sure what to answer to this, but I've heard of fractal patterns and how they recur constantly in nature, and I don't think scientists completely understand why, but it's definitely a known phenomenon. I think there are physical forces that result somehow in fractal patterns, and the forces that create(d?) mountains and trees are similar, that's the best I can tell you. I'd suggest a search of fractal patterns.
    I've seen mountains that really look like cut off giant trees just like that last picture with the top of it looking so flat... so I was really wondering... I do know for sure that the patterns assimilate to the cell structure usually and some of those mountains look somewhat like having the plant cells structure. But who knows. Their idea is that the giants/nephilims angel cut them off but those mountains are pretty high, I wonder if the giants got THAT TALL.
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #22 on: January 25, 2023, 12:59:42 PM »
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    • As for Devil's Tower in Wyoming, the reason it looks like it is because a giant bear was chasing the Pleiades sisters, and those grooves are his claw marks as the sisters escaped and were set into the heavenly firmament. ::)

    (Well, it does make for a good myth. Unlikely it has anything to do with the preparation for the arrival of ET in Close Encounters of the Third Kind.) :trollface:

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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #23 on: January 25, 2023, 02:29:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Philothea3 on January 25, 2023, 12:45:44 PM
    I've seen mountains that really look like cut off giant trees just like that last picture with the top of it looking so flat... so I was really wondering... I do know for sure that the patterns assimilate to the cell structure usually and some of those mountains look somewhat like having the plant cells structure. But who knows.
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    There could be some law of physics that results in both mountains and trees have a similar shape. For example, I heard recently that any sort of granular substance such as sand, gravel, salt, or anything similar, if it is poured into a pile in one place, the slopes will always have the exact same slope, about 32 degrees, no matter what the substance is or how it's poured. Scientists aren't quite sure why this is the case.

    Or why do all snowflakes have six points? I don't know, some law of physics probably.

    There are other odd consistencies or similarities we see in natural things that are the result of some sort of law. I think the similar type of design you're talking about between mountains and trees could be a similar phenomenon.

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    Their idea is that the giants/nephilims angel cut them off but those mountains are pretty high, I wonder if the giants got THAT TALL.


    No, this a gnostic early Church error. The word "giants" in Genesis means giants of wickedness, not physical giants.
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #24 on: January 26, 2023, 04:10:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on January 25, 2023, 02:29:10 PM
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    No, this a gnostic early Church error. The word "giants" in Genesis means giants of wickedness, not physical giants.


    I’ve never heard this, can you give me a reference?
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #25 on: January 26, 2023, 05:23:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on January 26, 2023, 04:10:09 AM

    I’ve never heard this, can you give me a reference?
    I’ve never heard this either
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #26 on: January 27, 2023, 06:43:38 PM »
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    • Nobody knows what the Earth looked like pre-flood. I believe that everything grew much larger, including trees, but I find the theory of mountains being the remnants of pre-flood forests to be a bit much. 
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #27 on: January 27, 2023, 07:47:53 PM »
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    • NASA gave the Dutch petrified wood and claimed they were "Moon rocks". Moon rocks from the Moon trees.

    There's an artist who makes sculptures out of driftwood. Sometimes there's an image of something already forming, or in some way potentially already there, and he just works and continues it along those lines. Sometimes it's the faintest figure of a human face, which they say is a preferred pattern in nature. Aristotle said art completes what nature doesn't finish. So besides the scale or magnitude of things in creation is the question of the pattern involved. All creation is patterned in some way after the creator, and that's why it's all 3-D, imho. So however big trees or giants may have been, there was no 4th dimension for them then or now, no 4th dimension for NASA or the Feal Rezerve Bank either, no matter how big the numbers, since everything of whatever scale is in 3-D patterns ... in relation to the nature of the trinity. All the cosmos and its numbers and scales and things in relation to the trinity, etc.

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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #28 on: January 27, 2023, 08:07:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on January 25, 2023, 02:29:10 PM
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    There could be some law of physics that results in both mountains and trees have a similar shape. For example, I heard recently that any sort of granular substance such as sand, gravel, salt, or anything similar, if it is poured into a pile in one place, the slopes will always have the exact same slope, about 32 degrees, no matter what the substance is or how it's poured. Scientists aren't quite sure why this is the case.

    Or why do all snowflakes have six points? I don't know, some law of physics probably.

    There are other odd consistencies or similarities we see in natural things that are the result of some sort of law. I think the similar type of design you're talking about between mountains and trees could be a similar phenomenon.


    No, this a gnostic early Church error. The word "giants" in Genesis means giants of wickedness, not physical giants.
    32 is close enough to 33 for government work, and that way is close to a 1/3 proportion, which could be a trinitarian signal or procession coming through there again. These trinitarian signals are all over the place. It was the gods or the Almighty who did it.
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    Re: Thoughts on giant trees?
    « Reply #29 on: January 27, 2023, 08:12:49 PM »
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