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Re: There is no Proof of theory of Gravity
« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2022, 10:23:41 AM »
But Cassini's findings - never challenged or disproved - included the fact that Newton's 'bulge' of the Earth does not exist. Newton's bulge was attributed to the evolution of the Earth.
The ellipsoid nature of earth's shape - also called reference geoid in surveying, has been measured over and over again.

Earth is a depressed spheroid. The usual explanation is the centrifugal force of the rotating earth, but I've also heard Geocentric explanations for it, although not very convincing.

Reference ellipsoid nameEquatorial radius (m)Polar radius (m)Inverse flatteningWhere used
Maupertuis (1738)6,397,3006,363,806.283191France
Plessis (1817)6,376,523.06,355,862.9333308.64France
Everest (1830)6,377,299.3656,356,098.359300.80172554India
Everest 1830 Modified (1967)6,377,304.0636,356,103.0390300.8017West Malaysia & Singapore
Everest 1830 (1967 Definition)6,377,298.5566,356,097.550300.8017Brunei & East Malaysia
Airy (1830)6,377,563.3966,356,256.909299.3249646Britain
Bessel (1841)6,377,397.1556,356,078.963299.1528128Europe, Japan
Clarke (1866)6,378,206.46,356,583.8294.9786982North America
Clarke (1878)6,378,1906,356,456293.4659980North America
Clarke (1880)6,378,249.1456,356,514.870293.465France, Africa
Helmert (1906)6,378,2006,356,818.17298.3Egypt
Hayford (1910)6,378,3886,356,911.946297USA
International (1924)6,378,3886,356,911.946297Europe
Krassovsky (1940)6,378,2456,356,863.019298.3USSR, Russia, Romania
WGS66 (1966)6,378,1456,356,759.769298.25USA/DoD
Australian National (1966)6,378,1606,356,774.719298.25Australia
New International (1967)6,378,157.56,356,772.2298.24961539
GRS-67 (1967)6,378,1606,356,774.516298.247167427
South American (1969)6,378,1606,356,774.719298.25South America
WGS-72 (1972)6,378,1356,356,750.52298.26USA/DoD
GRS-80 (1979)6,378,1376,356,752.3141298.257222101Global ITRS[4]
WGS-84 (1984)6,378,1376,356,752.3142298.257223563Global GPS
IERS (1989)6,378,1366,356,751.302298.257
IERS (2003)[5]6,378,136.66,356,751.9298.25642[4]


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Re: There is no Proof of theory of Gravity
« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2022, 10:49:51 AM »
These are a lot of "coulds" - none of these theories nor their components (ether? thermodynamics cause acceleration towards masses?) has been substantiated into a hypothesis with falsifiable predictions and on first glance sounds a bit like a collection of fancy words.
You're getting pretty close to how gravity is described here, did you notice that? "Mass attracts mass", so great masses will have a great force of attraction. Or according to Einstein, mass bends the spacetime continuum, thus traveling through space in such a gravity well will appear to pull you towards the center of mass (acts as a force).

Yes, most of science is still "theory" and yet it's presented as fact.  No, mass doesn't attract anything.  Whether it's electromagnetism or nuclear forces or ether pressure, mass itself cannot act at a distance on mass, and that's acknowledged by many in mainstream science.

It's not necessarily "attraction" either; it could be something (e.g. ether pressure) pushing things toward one another.

It's the same with evolution.  Presented as proven fact to kids in school, but rejected by a lot of top academics.  There's an atheistic agenda at work here.  I saw an interview with a professed atheist academic who had the honesty to admit that only intelligent design makes sense, but then still couldn't pull the trigger on believing in God.  Yet school children are indoctrinated with evolution anyway, causing who knows how many to have lost the faith.


Re: There is no Proof of theory of Gravity
« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2022, 01:15:00 PM »
Yes, most of science is still "theory" and yet it's presented as fact.  No, mass doesn't attract anything.  Whether it's electromagnetism or nuclear forces or ether pressure, mass itself cannot act at a distance on mass, and that's acknowledged by many in mainstream science.
That's first statement a false statement. Most of science consists of well tested and verifiable hypotheses with falsifiable predictions. The foundations are very strong. Only theoretical science and bleeding edge research can be called "still theory".
Your second sentence is also not true, do you know about quantum entanglement? Two spatially distant particles are still coupled to each other and will react to each other. We can't yet explain how that works. So saying "mass itself cannot act at a distance on mass" is just a claim.

Do you see a problem with just claiming things?

Your last sentence is also just a claim, could you post a reference to back up your claim?

It's not necessarily "attraction" either; it could be something (e.g. ether pressure) pushing things toward one another.
Ether pressure is completely unsubstantiated - neither is ether demonstrated to exist, nor is there any form of pressure that would work similar to gravity.

Another claim. Would you rather accept all of these "could be's" of yours which are mostly unsubstantiated, untested, not formalized nor peer reviewed by anyone, or the other possibility of well tested hypotheses, whose effects can be empirically observed?

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: There is no Proof of theory of Gravity
« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2022, 01:19:48 PM »
Your last sentence is also just a claim, could you post a reference to back up your claim?

I've already posted a couple videos of top physicists rejecting gravity.


Re: There is no Proof of theory of Gravity
« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2022, 01:24:35 PM »
Here's a simple classroom experiment:



The fact that the Cavendish Rig can experience bidirectional rotation based on only one variable - moving the weights near the torsion bar assembly - eliminates air motion, “aether,” and electromagnetism as possibilities. The latter also is demonstrable that the effect is better observed based on density rather than how ferrous the weights are (I.e. it works better with lead than iron).

And another one, you might want to skip to 11:25min when he explains the results.



Density can't be responsible for this motion.