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Offline Tradplorable

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There is no globe in the Bible
« on: October 08, 2017, 10:49:39 AM »
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    • The word "globe" does not appear anywhere at anytime in the Bible.
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    Instead, Our Lord chose to use the word "compass."

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    What is the difference between a globe and a compass?
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    One is a ball, and one is a circle.

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    A compass is both a noun (a tool to draw or inscribe a circle) and a verb (to go around, to go about, to encircle).
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    "I will compass Thine altar, O Lord..."
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    Read the passage from Isaiah 40:22 in the original 1610 Douay Rheims Old Testament, pg. 1512:

    "He that sitteth upon the compasse of the earth..."
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    https://archive.org/stream/1610A.d.DouayOldTestament1582A.d.RheimsNewTestament_176/Douay-Rheims-1610-Bible#page/n1511/mode/1up
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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #1 on: October 08, 2017, 11:06:26 AM »
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    • Quote from: An even Seven on October 08, 2017, 10:52:42 AM
    Not true, every approved DR Bible I have or have seen besides the one you post says globe. It irrelevant anyway but hey...they are still approved and have been for a long time.
    You have an 1899 version of the DR, which was significantly modified after 200 years of suppression.
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    The REAL Douay-Rheims of 1610 nowhere uses the word globe. EVER.
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    Offline DZ PLEASE

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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 11:28:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: Tradplorable on October 08, 2017, 11:06:26 AM
    You have an 1899 version of the DR, which was significantly modified after 200 years of suppression.
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    The REAL Douay-Rheims of 1610 nowhere uses the word globe. EVER.
    KJV onlyists' Prostratant cousin.

    Yet more evidence that these people are of another, false, faith and creed.

    Their "church" perished long ago.
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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #3 on: October 08, 2017, 11:34:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: Tradplorable on October 08, 2017, 10:49:39 AM
    The word "globe" does not appear anywhere at anytime in the Bible.
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    Instead, Our Lord chose to use the word "compass."

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    What is the difference between a globe and a compass?
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    One is a ball, and one is a circle.

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    A compass is both a noun (a tool to draw or inscribe a circle) and a verb (to go around, to go about, to encircle).
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    "I will compass Thine altar, O Lord..."
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    Read the passage from Isaiah 40:22 in the original 1610 Douay Rheims Old Testament, pg. 1512:

    "He that sitteth upon the compasse of the earth..."
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    Link:
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    https://archive.org/stream/1610A.d.DouayOldTestament1582A.d.RheimsNewTestament_176/Douay-Rheims-1610-Bible#page/n1511/mode/1up
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    Better yet... when you can read and understand this text in it's original language, then I might take your word a little more seriously....

    Isaiah 40:22  


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    הַיֹּשֵׁב֙ עַל־ח֣וּג הָאָ֔רֶץ וְיֹשְׁבֶ֖יהָ כַּחֲגָבִ֑ים הַנֹּוטֶ֤ה כַדֹּק֙ שָׁמַ֔יִם וַיִּמְתָּחֵ֥ם כָּאֹ֖הֶל לָשָֽׁבֶת׃


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    הישב על־חוג הארץ וישביה כחגבים הנוטה כדק שמים וימתחם כאהל לשבת׃


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    כב הישב על חוג הארץ וישביה כחגבים הנוטה כדק שמים וימתחם כאהל לשבת
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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #4 on: October 08, 2017, 11:45:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on October 08, 2017, 11:34:05 AM
    Better yet... when you can read and understand this text in it's original language, then I might take your word a little more seriously....

    Isaiah 40:22


    Westminster Leningrad Codex
    הַיֹּשֵׁב֙ עַל־ח֣וּג הָאָ֔רֶץ וְיֹשְׁבֶ֖יהָ כַּחֲגָבִ֑ים הַנֹּוטֶ֤ה כַדֹּק֙ שָׁמַ֔יִם וַיִּמְתָּחֵ֥ם כָּאֹ֖הֶל לָשָֽׁבֶת׃




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    כב הישב על חוג הארץ וישביה כחגבים הנוטה כדק שמים וימתחם כאהל לשבת



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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #5 on: October 08, 2017, 11:47:51 AM »
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    • Qui sedet super gyrum terrae,

    gyrum: to go around in a circle
    terrae: land

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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #6 on: October 08, 2017, 06:41:19 PM »
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    • Exactly.
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    This is called a globus crucifer.

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    NOT a gyrum crucifer.
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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #7 on: October 08, 2017, 06:49:14 PM »
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    • How come there are no landmasses or oceans painted on the globus crucifer if it is supposed to represent the atheist globe earth model?
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    Because it DOESN'T represent the atheist globe earth model.
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    It represents the Biblical account of ALL of His Creation, as told in Genesis.
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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #8 on: October 09, 2017, 05:34:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: St Ignatius on October 08, 2017, 11:34:05 AM
    Better yet... when you can read and understand this text in it's original language, then I might take your word a little more seriously....

    Isaiah 40:22


    Westminster Leningrad Codex
    הַיֹּשֵׁב֙ עַל־ח֣וּג הָאָ֔רֶץ וְיֹשְׁבֶ֖יהָ כַּחֲגָבִ֑ים הַנֹּוטֶ֤ה כַדֹּק֙ שָׁמַ֔יִם וַיִּמְתָּחֵ֥ם כָּאֹ֖הֶל לָשָֽׁבֶת׃


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    כב הישב על חוג הארץ וישביה כחגבים הנוטה כדק שמים וימתחם כאהל לשבת


    Allo allo allo everyone!

    Listen mate! Looks to me that your post is a pretext to not actually address the arguments.

    There are lots of words in latin such as globam, pilla, sphera that could be used to in latin, but are not. So when St. Jerome was translating from the hebrew, you didn't think he thought of that?

    Obviously you're smarter than St. Jerome!
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    "....I am at a loss what to say respecting those who, when they have once erred, consistently persevere in their folly, and defend one vain thing by another" - Church Father Lactentius on the globe earth

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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #9 on: October 09, 2017, 05:38:25 AM »
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    • Quote from: hismajesty on October 09, 2017, 05:34:10 AM

    Allo allo allo everyone!

    Listen mate! Looks to me that your post is a pretext to not actually address the arguments.

    There are lots of words in latin such as globam, pilla, sphera that could be used to in latin, but are not. So when St. Jerome was translating from the hebrew, you didn't think he thought of that?

    Obviously you're smarter than St. Jerome!
    What arguments? 

    Send it; major, minor and conclusion.

    Inductive? Okay send that instead.

    Go...
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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #10 on: October 09, 2017, 05:43:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: DZ PLEASE on October 09, 2017, 05:38:25 AM
    What arguments?

    Send it; major, minor and conclusion.

    Inductive? Okay send that instead.

    Go...

    Who asked for your opinion princess DZ please?
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    "....I am at a loss what to say respecting those who, when they have once erred, consistently persevere in their folly, and defend one vain thing by another" - Church Father Lactentius on the globe earth

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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #11 on: October 09, 2017, 05:53:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: hismajesty on October 09, 2017, 05:43:42 AM
    Who asked for your opinion princess DZ please?
    Who asked for yours?
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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #12 on: October 09, 2017, 07:21:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: hismajesty on October 09, 2017, 05:43:42 AM
    Who asked for your opinion princess DZ please?
    DZ you must have made some sense to this guy for a remark like that!
    Good Work!
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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #13 on: October 09, 2017, 08:01:27 AM »
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    • Quote from: MyrnaM on October 09, 2017, 07:21:29 AM
    DZ you must have made some sense to this guy for a remark like that!
    Good Work!
    Too kind.

    Not to be a downer but he could have also, for just one, have passed out after a scrumpy bender which is kind of what he reads like save there'd likely be more typos.
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    Re: There is no globe in the Bible
    « Reply #14 on: October 09, 2017, 12:15:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: MyrnaM on October 09, 2017, 07:21:29 AM
    DZ you must have made some sense to this guy for a remark like that!
    Good Work!
    Good Work!
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