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Offline Kephapaulos

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The Southern Cross and Alleged South Pole
« on: February 09, 2026, 12:42:14 PM »
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  • I may have accidently failed to post this thread this morning.

    What do we make of the Southern Cross and other constellations seen south of zero degrees latitude?

    Also, what should we make of the alleged pictures of a South Pole?

    I noticed certain pictures seem to have the row of flags on opposite sides of the pole strangely. 
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    Re: The Southern Cross and Alleged South Pole
    « Reply #1 on: February 09, 2026, 01:53:27 PM »
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  • First, the easy question. "What of the South Pole"?

    It's just a ceremonial barbershop pole, symbolic of the alleged bottom "pole" of the "globe earth".

    BUT -- you won't find videos of a man standing a few steps from the south pole, taking a few steps in different directions and watching the compass needle continually move around as it constantly points to the "South Pole" a few feet in front of him. That has never happened.

    The excuse is that the Earth's magnetic field is constantly moving, we can't pinpoint the exact Pole exactly, and other such nonsense.

    As for the Southern stars that can't be seen in the North, there is a rational and reasonable explanation for that.

    The starfield (in a dome above us) is much larger than we can see from any one point on earth. Picture yourself standing on a flat earth, with a vast dome of stars above you. Your field of vision is a small dome X miles in all directions from you. Remember we can only see so far with our eyes. Perspective. Those electric poles blend in with the horizon at some point. Are those electric poles 1 inch tall? No, they are just as tall as the ones right next to you. They just SEEM smaller, and get compressed into the horizon, as you approach the "vanishing point" which is simply the law of perspective and the limitations on human vision.

    Or how clouds look like they're right over the ground, when you look off into the horizon. Guess what? Those clouds are just as high up in the sky as the ones right over your head! They just LOOK lower, because they're so far off. The same with the stars!

    So you can't see all the stars at once, from any one point on earth. The Earth is indeed a very big place.

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    Re: The Southern Cross and Alleged South Pole
    « Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 09:47:04 PM »
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  • What we know about the Southern Cross:

    It is a cross shaped constellation seen every night, all night from anywhere south of a latitude of 35°S. It can be seen north of this, even into parts north of the equator, depending on time of night and time of year.

    It is about 6° tall.

    It is about 25° off the south celestial pole, circles the pole, and starting from the head going to the foot it points roughly at the south celestial pole.


    These observations are consistent with a globe earth model and are inconsistent with either the Gleason or the Ferguson flat models.

    It can be seen both from South America and Australia at the same time. On a globe this works as looking south and up into the sky is the same direction for both so a single constellation can be viewed from both places, albeit it will be rightside up for one and upside down for the other or left of South Pole for one and right of South Pole for the other. On either flat model the viewers will be facing 180° from each other and would not be able to see the same thing.

    It can be seen all night on the globe model because it simply spins clockwise around the southern celestial pole whereas on either flat earth model it must move past from east to west and swing the entire earth's circuмference before being viewed again.
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