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Radical Edward
2 months ago
“You are more than welcome to be wrong on your own time. But until you are able to win on a debate like this, I recommend that you shut the f**k up **mic drop**”
Best. Debate. Ending. Ever.

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jason littleton
jason littleton
2 months ago
“Evidence doesn’t prove anything.”- jeranism 
It was at this moment I cut off the video and began screaming internally for the next few hours.

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RAVENSNFLIES
RAVENSNFLIES
2 months ago
the only thing for flerfers to fear is sphere itself...

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Ashley Taylor
Ashley Taylor
1 month ago
RAVENSNFLIES incorrect. Water ALWAYS remains level proving we live on a flat plane.



UnbelievableProductions
UnbelievableProductions
1 month ago (edited)
No pillock trolls sock accounts that suffer from Balltardism, have a problem in dogmatically believing into religitarded Hermeticism, when presented evidence to a balltard he will observe the evidence with a sleeping mask and ear plugs. Now go confess your sins to Shill Nye The Science Lie.



matt cloutier
matt cloutier
1 month ago
Ashley Taylor incorrect. Level is not the same as flat.



UnbelievableProductions
UnbelievableProductions
1 month ago
+matt cloutier water always finds it's level



matt cloutier
matt cloutier
1 month ago
UnbelievableProductions you people crack me up. You make statements like this as if there is a liquid in existence that actually flows uphill. Any liquid (not just water) will take the path of least resistance toward the center of mass of the Earth, until something gets in its way. Yes, this will cause the liquid to “find it’s level” or flatten out locally. Gasses will also level out; what’s your point? Level with respect to center of mass at a locality will still be curved over the surface of a body, given that the body has enough mass for gravitational pull. My six year old can understand this, so you’re either a troll or a fu*kin retard. Either way enjoy your denial. Good day.
 


Cesar Pinto
Cesar Pinto
2 months ago
"Evidence isn't proof"
"Nothing in history is true"

I can't do this, I really can't.

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ChubZ
ChubZ
2 months ago
Jeranism pays his bills with the FE. nothing to add.

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ErgoCogita
ErgoCogita
2 months ago
"I don't have a model that works." Jeran 2018

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Dave Anderson
Dave Anderson
2 months ago
As usual, there is no debate.  Jeran's mantra really seems to be, We are being lied to.. now let's go twist evidence to support it.

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Oddballs
Oddballs
2 months ago
Jism, the Kent Hovind of the Flat Earth

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Radical Edward
Radical Edward
2 months ago
The most ironic thing is that today (July 15th, 2018) Jeran posted a video about how much he hates liars and people who are intentionally deceptive......

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2stroke4me
2stroke4me
2 months ago
I have a disorder that makes me see double (Binocular diplopia caused by strabism). According to Jeran my eyes don't deceive me and therefore i have 4 hands, 20 fingers, 2 exactly the same motorbikes with the same registration plate. 
I also live near the coast and sometimes see 2 identical ships pass over the horizon
Jeran, there's a big difference between being skeptical and being paranoid (or dishonest). We don't "believe" in the spherical earth, we accept the fact that the earth is spherical. We don't deal in beliefs or truths, we accept facts.
 
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Uriah Faust
Uriah Faust
2 months ago
"If you just forgot about all this mathematics and physics and just open your eyes you'll see what we see... that the earth is flat..." 
The closing statement of a flattard who also lost miserably to Reds in a previous debate.

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TXPine
TXPine
2 months ago
Holy sh*t Jeranism doesn't even understand high school physics lol.

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John beason
John beason
2 months ago
Jeran is beyond stupid. Man's lost more of these debates to the point where he is now the Cleveland Browns of the internet.

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Kyle Laurent
Kyle Laurent
2 months ago
This really wasn't a debate. It was Red giving evidence and Jeranism saying he doesn't accept the evidence because: a) reasons b) he doesn't understand the evidence c) he understands the evidence, but it destroys the flat Earth assumptions so he out and out rejects it for reasons.

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Colten
Colten
2 months ago
Strap in, we're in for a wild ride. Or not, that depends on your

P E R S P E C T I V E

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Sameh Morsi
Sameh Morsi
2 months ago
Jeranism thinks that if he will keep repeating the word ridiculous then he will disproof the globe.

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Titus Veridius
Titus Veridius
2 months ago
"I don't have a model that works" Jeran

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AJ Hieb
AJ Hieb
2 months ago
I love that Jeranism and the rest of the flerfers all seem to think that every decision from every government, space agency and large corporation is based around proving (or trying to avoid proving) the shape of the Earth.  The fact that the population in the southern hemisphere is significantly less than the population in the northern hemisphere might have a factor on things like demand for flights, demand for shipping routes, demand for undersea cabling, etc.  They seem to think that Carnival Cruise lines should book routes that aren't profitable, just to prove the globe (and if they don't that means the earth is flat) and Quantas needs to book flights that aren't profitable just to prove the globe, (and if they don't it means the earth is flat) and Destra should pay to have expensive undersea cabling laid that they don't need, just to prove the earth is a globe (and if they don't the earth is flat) and NASA et al, need to use all of their resources to prove the earth is a globe, (and if they don't it means the earth is flat). 

It really is an astounding level of arrogance and entitlement.  

And the audacity of these frauds to use this horribly flawed, barely even circuмstantial, "evidence" as proof of anything, and then turn around and accuse other people of using bad science is laughable.
 
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The Truth of the Matter
The Truth of the Matter
2 months ago (edited)
Does jeran not understand that every experiment done to support the spherical earth IS an experiment to disprove the flat earth??? Whether that is the intent or not... he really doesn't understand this does he?

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michael apple
michael apple
2 months ago
Another debate between someone who understands Physics and someone who has a strong financial motive not to. How could the outcome be in doubt?

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Matt D
Matt D
2 months ago
Jeranism's whole position is built upon the notion that all of modern science, including the globe earth, is a meticulously constructed network of lies and deceptions, perpetrated by governments and NASA.  For example, Jeranism will tell you, gravity was just made up to be a magical catch-all that fixes and hides all of the inherent problems and errors with science and the globe deception.   

The shallowness and baselessness of this position comes across loud and clear in a debate like this because Jeran is obviously incapable of fleshing out his claims and/or reacting in real time to specific opposing ideas.  No matter what specific observation or evidence is being discussed, all Jeran can do is ramble on through the same canned script.  Jeran's opponent can bring up equinox sun angles, the Galilean moons of Jupiter, celestial poles, equatorial telescope mounts, geodesy, or sunsets and it doesn't matter, Jeran's response will be the same: "you just believe what you were taught.  You can't prove that water sticks to a spinning ball, therefore flat."  It's laughable.   

Speaking of gravity being a supposed catch-all for the globe, Jeranism's entire shtick has an even bigger and shakier magical catch-all, yet he and his witless cocksplat followers are completely oblivious to this irony.  The entire Jeranism belief system is glued together by the premise that everything we've been taught is a lie.  If this premise is shown false, he has absolutely nothing.  And we need to be perfectly clear here: it is not Jeran's position that scientists simply make honest mistakes and get things wrong from time to time.  No sir, the implications of his story are unavoidable even if he doesn't outright state them this way: every major cosmological discovery that goes into textbooks and gets taught by professors, all of it, going back to the ancient Greeks and beyond, is not a mistake, but a willful deception on the part of some unnamed overlords, perpetrated in service of some evil agenda.

This is funny, because there are lots and lots of observations that can be made by anybody to, at the very least,  check the globe idea to see if the story holds up.  These checks can be done independently of illuminati-run public schools, NASA lizard people, and freemason-authored books.    

Where are the equivalent checks that can be made to verify Jeranism's core premise of a grand centuries-long conspiracy to hide the shape of the earth?  All you ever get is vague, diversionary assertions from paranoia and ignorance:  

"It's just obvious… if you don't see it, then I don't know what to tell you, you're lost."  

That is all these people ever have.  Jeranism says things like this over and over again, and never stops to contemplate how ridiculous it is to make such sweeping claims based on absolutely nothing but gut feeling and scientific illiteracy.  It's the very antithesis of critical thinking, exemplified.
 
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Mandelbrot Set
Mandelbrot Set
2 months ago
Did Jeranism say that he is going to conduct an experiment by trying to unroll mono-filament fishing line over several miles? Does he realize that the line tangles and stretches and droops? I predict another failure.

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Superformance72
Superformance72
2 months ago (edited)
Jism, how many times do you want to be raped in front of everyone? Every single point you have raised in all the hangouts have been utterly destroyed. Talk about a glutton for punishment. I guess the reasoning is that he go back to his sad channel and lie about what went on in this hangout and then the whole debarkle starts over again. The only thing that Jism did was RANT!

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Crash, just Crash
Crash, just Crash
2 months ago
"I don't have a model that works..." Jeranism 2018

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White People
White People
2 months ago
What baffles me is that Jeran is not stupid. Like.. he knows stuff, he knows more about science than I do, probably. Yet, he clings to his conspiracy and at times it seems that the mere existence of a "conspiracy" is more important to him than the "truth". "Don't trust anyone" is his mantra and it doesn't matter what the actual reality is. If science told us one day that yes, the Earth is flat and we've been lied to, Jeran would probably come up with something new to obsess over. 

Not to sound like an armchair psychiatrist, but I think he might be on the spectrum or something.
 
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ANON YMOUS
ANON YMOUS
2 months ago
Has jeranism ever heard of peer review??
He rants about myan gods and santa claus and doesn't understand how crops grow or how babies are made, does he act stupid or is actually that dumb?

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almarjyou
almarjyou
2 months ago (edited)
what a hypocrite jism is

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lgbt bathroom
lgbt bathroom
2 months ago
Jism is saying non sequiter lied .  He's triggered .

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JustAMaineiac
JustAMaineiac
2 months ago
22:29  "I don't think."  ~Jeranism

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mugogrog
mugogrog
2 months ago (edited)
If Jeran ever