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The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
« on: January 07, 2018, 06:54:55 PM »
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    • The Moon Phases on a Flat Earth.  

    It appears that The Moon goes through phases on a Flat Earth Model, because as The Sun and Moon orbit the Flat Earth, The Sun moves faster, than The Moon does.  So, it "laps" The Moon every 30 days.  This is why the Moon goes through a 30 day cycle of waxing and waning.  The Moon appears to be "full" when it is furthest from The Sun;  180 degrees from The Sun on its circuit.  The Moon appears to be just a sliver, when it is very close to The Sun.  

    It order to understand this, you must understand The Moon's source of light.  The Moon appears to absorb light from The Sun and then glow in the dark.  Like any other glow in the dark object, The Moon will not glow in the daylight.  That's why The Moon we see during the day, doesn't glow.  

    If The Moon was just reflecting light from The Sun, its light would be warm, but it isn't.  Even concentrated moonlight, while very bright, is not even warm.  Of course, concentrated Sunlight is very hot.
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #1 on: January 08, 2018, 09:56:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: WholeFoodsTrad on January 07, 2018, 06:54:55 PM

    The Moon Phases on a Flat Earth.  

    It appears that The Moon goes through phases on a Flat Earth Model, because as The Sun and Moon orbit the Flat Earth, The Sun moves faster, than The Moon does.  So, it "laps" The Moon every 30 days.  This is why the Moon goes through a 30 day cycle of waxing and waning.  The Moon appears to be "full" when it is furthest from The Sun;  180 degrees from The Sun on its circuit.  The Moon appears to be just a sliver, when it is very close to The Sun.  

    It order to understand this, you must understand The Moon's source of light.  The Moon appears to absorb light from The Sun and then glow in the dark.  Like any other glow in the dark object, The Moon will not glow in the daylight.  That's why The Moon we see during the day, doesn't glow.  

    If The Moon was just reflecting light from The Sun, its light would be warm, but it isn't.  Even concentrated moonlight, while very bright, is not even warm.  Of course, concentrated Sunlight is very hot.
    That sunlight and moonlight are vastly different is a completely provable thing.  For eleven bucks you can pick up a laser thermometer on Amazon.  Point it at the sun, and it always measures warmth or heat depending on how high it is or how close it is.  I've measured over two hundred degrees from the ground.  The moon, from the same position on the ground measures 1 or 2 degrees, and often negative degrees, depending.  They are two completely different lights in color, effect and temperature.  And while the sun may recharge the moon as Enoch describes, it certainly does not reflect off the moon as modern science says.  Everything about modern cosmological science is at odds with Tradition. 
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #2 on: January 08, 2018, 11:03:13 AM »
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    • At the last full moon, I was amazed by how very bright and white the light was, as the moonlight streamed in through the skylights in my home. The brightness reminded me of LED lights. 
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #3 on: January 08, 2018, 12:11:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on January 08, 2018, 11:03:13 AM
    At the last full moon, I was amazed by how very bright and white the light was, as the moonlight streamed in through the skylights in my home. The brightness reminded me of LED lights.
    I agree.  When you see a close up of the moon in video or picture, you can see rays of light coming from within/under the "crust", making it appear that the light of the moon may come from smallish led-type lights that turn on/off depending on the phase of the moon.  Not a conclusion by any means, just an observation. 
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #4 on: January 08, 2018, 01:36:14 PM »
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    • I do not agree with some of the claims about the moon by fellow flat earthers. 
    I don't believe the moon is "see through" in daylight.
    I don't believe it has a glow in the dark ability,  getting charged by the sun.
    I don't believe it generates its own light of itself.
    However, the difference between moon light and sunlight is provable.
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #5 on: January 08, 2018, 01:44:33 PM »
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    • How we know moon is not see thru...
    A plane laying down a contrail at high noon as it passes overhead is often not visible, especially if it is not painted white.

    If the sun's light is not hitting an aerial object at an oblique angle, it is not visible. In other words, if the sun is directly overhead and the object you are viewing is also directly overhead, it will generally not be visible because the sun is at a higher altitude. You could say the plane is eclipsing the sun in a sense which renders it invisible. 
    This is what happens every new moon. It is invisible due to the angle of the sun's light.
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #6 on: January 08, 2018, 01:57:52 PM »
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    • Example of invisible plane at high noon.
    Actually,  the only reason you can see it at all is because of the contrail.

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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #7 on: January 08, 2018, 02:11:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on January 08, 2018, 01:36:14 PM
    I do not agree with some of the claims about the moon by fellow flat earthers.
    I don't believe the moon is "see through" in daylight.
    I don't believe it has a glow in the dark ability,  getting charged by the sun.
    I don't believe it generates its own light of itself.
    However, the difference between moon light and sunlight is provable.
    So, where do you believe The Moon's light comes from?  
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #8 on: January 08, 2018, 02:19:34 PM »
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    • The phases of the moon are best understood thru its shadows.
    As happens on earth, shadows are caused at rise and set of the sun, and are nonexistent at zenith (noon).
    It's the same with the moon: the sun is at a higher altitude than the moon, and it rises (waxes) over the moon, then it zeniths (full), then it sets (wanes). 

    The process takes 28 days instead of 12 hours, because the moon os in motion.

    It keeps pace with the sun accompanying it across the sky. 

    This is also why the shadows are relatively short in the craters compared to shadows on earth because the moon is closer to the sun.
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #9 on: January 08, 2018, 02:21:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: WholeFoodsTrad on January 08, 2018, 02:11:48 PM
    So, where do you believe The Moon's light comes from?  
    From the sun.
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 03:52:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on January 08, 2018, 02:21:47 PM
    From the sun.
    Why do you think Moonlight isn't warm then?  
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 05:34:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: WholeFoodsTrad on January 08, 2018, 03:52:20 PM
    Why do you think Moonlight isn't warm then?  
    Because it is in the night.
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 05:40:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on January 08, 2018, 05:34:16 PM
    Because it is in the night.
    Enoch says the moon receives 1/7 of its light from the sun.  So, some of the moon's light comes from the sun, but most of it is of the moon itself.  My personal experiments with moonlight show is not cold because of the surrounding air, but it is cold by itself.  I've tested it on warm nights, hot nights, cold nights, and the moon consistently shines down a temperature near zero degrees.  Also, moonlight is different than sunlight in other ways, so it can't be the same light.  
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #13 on: January 08, 2018, 05:58:51 PM »
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    • I've not read Enoch.
    Clearly the moon reflects the sun.
    It is a weakened longer wavelength due to the increased distance. That's what makes it different..
    And that it is striking earth in the night circle.
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #14 on: January 08, 2018, 06:09:00 PM »
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    • The moon's shadows are also a proof that the sun is at a higher altitude, since they are: 
    Shadows left=sunrise, wax
    Shadows gone=sun zenith, full
    Shadows right=sunset, wane

    Exactly as we see on earth.
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