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Offline WholeFoodsTrad

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Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2018, 07:08:41 PM »
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  • I've not read Enoch.
    Clearly the moon reflects the sun.
    It is a weakened longer wavelength due to the increased distance. That's what makes it different..
    And that it is striking earth in the night circle.
    Alright, well my super-duper temp detector ray gun is coming tomorrow.  So, I'm gonna do my own tests and report back!  
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #16 on: January 08, 2018, 07:59:38 PM »
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  • Alright, well my super-duper temp detector ray gun is coming tomorrow.  So, I'm gonna do my own tests and report back!  
    Go get 'em, WholeFoodsTrad! 


    Offline WholeFoodsTrad

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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #17 on: January 08, 2018, 10:05:45 PM »
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  • Example of invisible plane at high noon.
    Actually,  the only reason you can see it at all is because of the contrail.



    That's the theme song from:  

    a line from the movie:  

    "I don't give a darn about your president or your stupid war"  Snake Plisken 
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #18 on: January 08, 2018, 10:11:03 PM »
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  • The phases of the moon are best understood thru its shadows.
    As happens on earth, shadows are caused at rise and set of the sun, and are nonexistent at zenith (noon).
    It's the same with the moon: the sun is at a higher altitude than the moon, and it rises (waxes) over the moon, then it zeniths (full), then it sets (wanes).

    The process takes 28 days instead of 12 hours, because the moon os in motion.

    It keeps pace with the sun accompanying it across the sky.

    This is also why the shadows are relatively short in the craters compared to shadows on earth because the moon is closer to the sun.
    One of these days I'm gonna have to buy a telescope.  
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #19 on: January 09, 2018, 04:52:03 PM »
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  • Go get 'em, WholeFoodsTrad!
    I got my ray gun thermometer and I noticed a few interesting things.  A very bright LED light puts off no heat at all.  It's temperature on or off is virtually the same.  An incandescent bulb puts off a lot of heat, but interestingly, a metal shroud shaped like a bowl, sitting over the light, but not touching it, was made much hotter by the light, than the surface of the bulb itself.  A simple propane heater produced a flame around 450 degrees, but the metal shroud that surrounded it varied in temperature from around 800 degrees, down to 55 degrees F.  What was even more surprising was the temperature of pot of water that had frozen.  The Surface of the pot and even the surface of ice was about 60 degrees (about the temp of the room I was in).  wOw.  
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."


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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #20 on: January 09, 2018, 06:34:28 PM »
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  • LEDs produce very little light in the infrared ranges, which is where most of the heat is contained. That's also why they consume much less energy. The majority of the energy from an incandescent bulb is the heat it generates (in the form of IR radiation), not the visible light. Incidentally, the same is true of the sun. The majority of the light it puts out is not visible, but in the infrared end of the spectrum (there's also about 3-5% in the UV range).

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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #21 on: January 09, 2018, 08:52:00 PM »
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  • I got my ray gun thermometer and I noticed a few interesting things.  A very bright LED light puts off no heat at all.  It's temperature on or off is virtually the same.  An incandescent bulb puts off a lot of heat, but interestingly, a metal shroud shaped like a bowl, sitting over the light, but not touching it, was made much hotter by the light, than the surface of the bulb itself.  A simple propane heater produced a flame around 450 degrees, but the metal shroud that surrounded it varied in temperature from around 800 degrees, down to 55 degrees F.  What was even more surprising was the temperature of pot of water that had frozen.  The Surface of the pot and even the surface of ice was about 60 degrees (about the temp of the room I was in).  wOw.  
    Ha ha! I found all kinds of ways to scratch my science itch with that little ray gun.  It is very cool. 

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #22 on: January 09, 2018, 11:34:07 PM »
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  • .
    Why are all the flat-earthers afraid of discussing the moon phases?
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    Everywhere on planet earth the phase of the moon appears the same, every day.
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    Take the full moon, for example. We just had one a few days ago.
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    With the sun on the other side of the world, everyone on the night side sees a full moon.
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    They see the full moon from the time it rises in the evening until it sets in the early morning.
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    All over Asia, from Japan to Portugal, the moon is full all night long.
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    The moment it is rising as seen from Portugal, it is setting as seen from Japan. 
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    But it appears as a full moon from both, opposite directions.
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    How could that be the case if the earth were "flat?"
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    The Japanese would see a gibbous moon if the moon were full viewed from Portugal if the earth were "flat."
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    And on a "flat" earth, the Portuguese would see a gibbous moon if it were full while viewed from Japan.
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #23 on: January 10, 2018, 08:13:51 AM »
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    Why are all the flat-earthers afraid of discussing the moon phases?
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    Everywhere on planet earth the phase of the moon appears the same, every day.
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    Take the full moon, for example. We just had one a few days ago.
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    With the sun on the other side of the world, everyone on the night side sees a full moon.
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    They see the full moon from the time it rises in the evening until it sets in the early morning.
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    All over Asia, from Japan to Portugal, the moon is full all night long.
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    The moment it is rising as seen from Portugal, it is setting as seen from Japan.
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    But it appears as a full moon from both, opposite directions.
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    How could that be the case if the earth were "flat?"
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    The Japanese would see a gibbous moon if the moon were full viewed from Portugal if the earth were "flat."
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    And on a "flat" earth, the Portuguese would see a gibbous moon if it were full while viewed from Japan.
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    What makes you think the moon's phases should appear different on a flat earth? You don't make any sense. 

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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #24 on: January 10, 2018, 11:24:05 AM »
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  • What makes you think the moon's phases should appear different on a flat earth? You don't make any sense.
    Absolutely.
    Neil doesn't make any logical sense.

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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #25 on: January 10, 2018, 11:27:00 AM »
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    Why are all the flat-earthers afraid of discussing the moon phases?
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    Everywhere on planet earth the phase of the moon appears the same, every day.
    .
    Take the full moon, for example. We just had one a few days ago.
    .
    With the sun on the other side of the world, everyone on the night side sees a full moon.
    .
    They see the full moon from the time it rises in the evening until it sets in the early morning.
    .
    All over Asia, from Japan to Portugal, the moon is full all night long.
    .
    The moment it is rising as seen from Portugal, it is setting as seen from Japan.
    .
    But it appears as a full moon from both, opposite directions.
    .
    How could that be the case if the earth were "flat?"
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    The Japanese would see a gibbous moon if the moon were full viewed from Portugal if the earth were "flat."
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    And on a "flat" earth, the Portuguese would see a gibbous moon if it were full while viewed from Japan.
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    How could that be the case if the earth were "flat"? 
    Well, when we have a true map, we'll let you know.  In the meantime, there is no curve.


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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #26 on: January 10, 2018, 04:17:02 PM »
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  • What makes you think the moon's phases should appear different on a flat earth? You don't make any sense.
    I wish we had some good illustrations of this stuff.  I  think the fact of The Moon glowing at night and not during the day causes a problem with reflective light theory and advances the self illuminating moon theory.  And, I'm still not satisfied with the Moolight loses its heat, due to distance theory.  How much heat does a radiant heat source lose on reflection?  Furthermore, I'm not sure the flat map works with a reflecting Sun, given the position of the sun, moon and earth on a typical flat map.  
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #27 on: January 10, 2018, 10:23:14 PM »
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  • What makes you think the moon's phases should appear different on a flat earth? You don't make any sense.
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    Please provide a picture showing how the full moon appears as such from all parts of the "flat" earth.
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    Maybe your problem is you can't understand why the moon has phases in the first place.
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #28 on: January 10, 2018, 10:24:11 PM »
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  • I wish we had some good illustrations of this stuff. 
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    You don't have an illustration of something that's impossible to illustrate because it's impossible.
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    Re: The Moon's Phases On A Flat Earth Model
    « Reply #29 on: January 10, 2018, 10:26:00 PM »
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  • How could that be the case if the earth were "flat"?  
    Well, when we have a true map, we'll let you know.  In the meantime, there is no curve.
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    It's a typically liberal response to promise pie-in-the-sky when everyone knows it's never going to happen.
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    You ought to admit the truth, and accept what you see in the moon phases, because God isn't trying to fool you.
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