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Offline flatearthtrads

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The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
« on: January 13, 2018, 04:43:01 PM »
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  • The Globe is Madness...



    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #1 on: January 13, 2018, 09:54:05 PM »
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    The only problem here is, you've got it backwards.
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    It's the "flat-earth" that's madness. (It's not a theory but a disproved hypothesis.)
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    The evidence is overwhelming.
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    Everywhere you look you can see the innumerable proofs of the sphericity of the globe earth.
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    There are hundreds of observations and experiments you can do, and ALL of them say the earth is a globe.
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    Every single one!
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #2 on: January 13, 2018, 10:24:23 PM »
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    There never has been and there never will be any depiction of a Theodolite shooting a level line of sight from a promontory of even a few hundred feet toward the horizon which shows the horizon "rising to the level of the viewer" as flat-earthers keep chanting without any evidence.
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    There never has been and there never will be an intelligible explanation for why the full moon faces with its sun-illuminated face toward the earth from high in the sky, from the flat-earth hypothesis which places the sun above a "flat" disc earth at nearly 90 degrees to the line of the moon's light as viewed from anywhere on planet earth.
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    There never has been and there never will be any "flat" earth plausible geometry describing how a quarter moon makes the angle it does to the sun (while insisting it and the moon are some 3 thousand miles above the earth) twice each month for all to see. 
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    There never has been and there never will be any reasonable excuse for the fact that a ship or plane traveling due east (or due west) along the equator does not have to turn right (starboard) or left (port) in order to remain on the equator and due east (or west as the case may be).
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    There never has been and there never will be any "flat" earth demonstration of WHY two parallel courses once embarked will in due time collide with each other on the real earth, since they don't do that on the "flat" earth model.
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    There never has been and there never will be any reasonable "flat" earth explanation for how any weighted object in a vacuum will consistently be pulled in a perpendicular direction from the horizon line regardless of where on the real earth the experiment is conducted.
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    There never has been and there never will be an explanation for the numerous flights of aircraft that pass over or close to Antarctica and traverse a distance too short to be plotted on a "flat" earth model, when many pilots, co-pilots and navigators who routinely fly such courses have and will continue to attest.
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    There never has been and there never will be any honest video showing the horizon unable to conceal distant objects beyond the curvature of the earth, even while the refraction of light through the water vapor above a body of water makes it appear otherwise, since the progressive foreshortening of such objects belies the distortion caused by the refraction.
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    There never has been and there never will be a seagoing navigator using a sextant and sea charts who can accurately plot his course over a great distance overseas, when he presumes the earth is "flat."
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    I can go on.............
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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #3 on: January 14, 2018, 01:42:58 PM »
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    The only problem here is, you've got it backwards.
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    It's the "flat-earth" that's madness. (It's not a theory but a disproved hypothesis.)
    .
    The evidence is overwhelming.
    .
    Everywhere you look you can see the innumerable proofs of the sphericity of the globe earth.
    .
    There are hundreds of observations and experiments you can do, and ALL of them say the earth is a globe.
    .
    Every single one!
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    The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government "space agencies" show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

    The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.

    The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.
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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #4 on: January 14, 2018, 06:29:15 PM »
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  • The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government "space agencies" show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

    The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.

    The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.
    .
    There never has been and there never will be any depiction of a Theodolite shooting a level line of sight from a promontory of even a few hundred feet toward the horizon which shows the horizon "rising to the level of the viewer" as flat-earthers keep chanting without any evidence.
    .
    There never has been and there never will be an intelligible explanation for why the full moon faces with its sun-illuminated face toward the earth from high in the sky, from the flat-earth hypothesis which places the sun above a "flat" disc earth at nearly 90 degrees to the line of the moon's light as viewed from anywhere on planet earth.
    .
    There never has been and there never will be any "flat" earth plausible geometry describing how a quarter moon makes the angle it does to the sun (while insisting it and the moon are some 3 thousand miles above the earth) twice each month for all to see. 
    .
    There never has been and there never will be any reasonable excuse for the fact that a ship or plane traveling due east (or due west) along the equator does not have to turn right (starboard) or left (port) in order to remain on the equator and due east (or west as the case may be).
    .
    There never has been and there never will be any "flat" earth demonstration of WHY two parallel courses once embarked will in due time collide with each other on the real earth, since they don't do that on the "flat" earth model.
    .
    There never has been and there never will be any reasonable "flat" earth explanation for how any weighted object in a vacuum will consistently be pulled in a perpendicular direction from the horizon line regardless of where on the real earth the experiment is conducted.
    .
    There never has been and there never will be an explanation for the numerous flights of aircraft that pass over or close to Antarctica and traverse a distance too short to be plotted on a "flat" earth model, when many pilots, co-pilots and navigators who routinely fly such courses have and will continue to attest.
    .
    There never has been and there never will be any honest video showing the horizon unable to conceal distant objects beyond the curvature of the earth, even while the refraction of light through the water vapor above a body of water makes it appear otherwise, since the progressive foreshortening of such objects belies the distortion caused by the refraction.
    .
    There never has been and there never will be a seagoing navigator using a sextant and sea charts who can accurately plot his course over a great distance overseas, when he presumes the earth is "flat."
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    I can go on.............
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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 01:29:30 PM »
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  • The Globe is Madness...


    That was a good video.  I think The Globe does promote a philosophy that can only lead to madness.  
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #6 on: January 15, 2018, 01:53:26 PM »
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  • So, based on the repeated references to Bishop Williamson, is this Flat Earth Trads group linked to the Resistance in some way?

    At this point, Flat Earthers, could you please state your basic orientation with regard to the Crisis?

    1) Novus Ordo Motu Trad
    2) neo-SSPX
    3) Resistance
    4) Pfiefferian
    5) Sedevacantist

    I don't need to list all the shades of difference among these categories for what I'm interested in knowing.

    I got the impression that Meg was a Resistance type.

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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 03:02:15 PM »
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  • So, based on the repeated references to Bishop Williamson, is this Flat Earth Trads group linked to the Resistance in some way?

    At this point, Flat Earthers, could you please state your basic orientation with regard to the Crisis?

    1) Novus Ordo Motu Trad
    2) neo-SSPX
    3) Resistance
    4) Pfiefferian
    5) Sedevacantist

    I don't need to list all the shades of difference among these categories for what I'm interested in knowing.

    I got the impression that Meg was a Resistance type
    I've gotten the distinct impression that we're all Catholics!    ;)
    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."


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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #8 on: January 16, 2018, 04:22:07 AM »
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  • So, based on the repeated references to Bishop Williamson, is this Flat Earth Trads group linked to the Resistance in some way?

    At this point, Flat Earthers, could you please state your basic orientation with regard to the Crisis?

    1) Novus Ordo Motu Trad
    2) neo-SSPX
    3) Resistance
    4) Pfiefferian
    5) Sedevacantist

    I don't need to list all the shades of difference among these categories for what I'm interested in knowing.

    I got the impression that Meg was a Resistance type.

    Hello,
    Number three.

    If you go to our forum you will see at the top
    "Forum for traditional Catholics who accept the Earth to be flat. We follow the apostolic line of Bishop Richard Williamson."

    Hope that helps.

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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #9 on: January 16, 2018, 07:56:35 AM »
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  • Hello,
    Number three.

    If you go to our forum you will see at the top
    "Forum for traditional Catholics who accept the Earth to be flat. We follow the apostolic line of Bishop Richard Williamson."

    Hope that helps.

    Are there others on here who are NOT aligned with the Resistance?

    Does Bishop Williamson hold the flat earth view or is he at least sympathetic to it?  Or would he reject it?

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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #10 on: January 16, 2018, 09:25:32 AM »
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  • Are there others on here who are NOT aligned with the Resistance?

    Does Bishop Williamson hold the flat earth view or is he at least sympathetic to it?  Or would he reject it?
    I have a friend who believes Flat Earth, and he asked Bishop Williamsom (during his recent visit in the USA) about the Flat Earth Theory, and the Bishop said that was nonsense.


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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #11 on: January 16, 2018, 10:42:31 AM »
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  • The issue that I have with the video is that it shows three still photos of Bp. Williamson, which may give some people the false impression that he is sympathetic towards that Flat Earth cause, when he is not. I mention this only for the sake of accuracy. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #12 on: January 16, 2018, 10:53:00 AM »
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  • The issue that I have with the video is that it shows three still photos of Bp. Williamson, which may give some people the false impression that he is sympathetic towards that Flat Earth cause, when he is not. I mention this only for the sake of accuracy.

    Agreed.  Since it would appear (from the report above) that he rejects flat earth, his image should not be used in a video promoting flat earth.  No, it doesn't explicitly say that +Williamson supports it, but this could easily be inferred.

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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #13 on: January 16, 2018, 10:57:35 AM »
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  • Agreed.  Since it would appear (from the report above) that he rejects flat earth, his image should not be used in a video promoting flat earth.  No, it doesn't explicitly say that +Williamson supports it, but this could easily be inferred.

    Yes, it can be inferred.

    It's my view that Flat Earthers must always strive to be honest, sincere, and above-board, since they are suggesting a view that is not the norm. But not only for that reason. We must always strive to adhere to the 8th commandment, even though we may fail at times given fallen human nature. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: The Madness of the Globe Earth theory
    « Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 01:01:30 PM »
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  • Bishop Williamson was shown in the video when it was speaking about grace falling on an ordered nature. If you go back over the video you will see that. It is a very common theme of his.

    We do not pretend to speak for the opinions of all traditional Catholics on this forum. We are simply a group of Catholics who align ourselves with the doctrine of the Church,(and all it's consequences) and the flat earth. That is it.

    Anyone interested can check out our website and and web forum.