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Offline hismajesty

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Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2017, 04:49:34 AM »
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  • I am quite suspicious that Happenby a bunch of the 15-post flat-earthers are plants to make Catholics and "conspiracy theorists" look like a bunch of kooks.  They take a few truths--NASA can't be trusted; man didn't go to the moon; geocentrism--and make them seem inextricably intwined with the hare-brained notion of flat-earth, proclaimed most ardently by the 10th grade educated, a few puffed-up proud of whom done got that GED, trailer park residents with YouTube smash-hits about alien abductions and describing the tornado that roared through Tin-Can Estates.
    Oh I love this. Because we don't waste as much time in front a computer screen as you, we must be trolls!

    Your nonsense line about us discrediting Trads has already been hashed over by many before you and it is really quite tiresome. What goes through your head? Are you really so dull as to not do any investigation into it? You have a lot of posts yourself and so have seen a lot of flat earth threads, and all you can do is bark from the sidelines.

    You're also being totally dishonest in misrepresenting our arguments. You should know FULL WELL that the basis of the flat earth arguments is NOT that NASA can't be trusted. You KNOW THIS! It is about the lack of curvature. But to make inflate your ego, you skirt around this and make a lot of ad hominem attacks and come up with straw men.

    At least Neil makes some kind of quasi scientific attempt to argue with us. You're just a time waster.
    "....I am at a loss what to say respecting those who, when they have once erred, consistently persevere in their folly, and defend one vain thing by another" - Church Father Lactentius on the globe earth

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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #61 on: August 23, 2017, 05:44:12 PM »
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  • You're a liar!
    the only true thing you say is that gave a a response. But I can respond to the question of "what is your name" with the response "the sky is blue" and not really answer the question.
    You NEVER explained as can be seen from the posts where the missing 500 feet came from even taking into account your adjustments. The threads are full of users reminding you of this.
    So drop the charade, NASA employee!
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    On the contrary, you (like your buddy kiwiboy) are a liar. Liar, liar, pants on fire!!  :jester:
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    I most certainly did go through that video, page by page, and commented on all its errors, but you were not a member at the time so you wouldn't know about it, nonetheless, your saying otherwise makes you a liar. I did comment.
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    The last time someone asked about "the 500 feet we can't see" his question made no sense and I didn't know what he was asking about so I replied, "What 500 feet are you asking about?" But he never replied. Is that my fault?
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    So here you are doing the same thing. Provide a minute number in the video for this missing 500 feet to which you refer and I'll give you a second chance. But if you don't respond, then I'm sorry, you're just like your friend -- impossible.
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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #62 on: August 23, 2017, 05:46:40 PM »
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    More Bad Fruits of the Flat-Earth Position!!                   
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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #63 on: August 23, 2017, 05:51:38 PM »
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  • Oh I love this. Because we don't waste as much time in front a computer screen as you, we must be trolls!

    Your nonsense line about us discrediting Trads has already been hashed over by many before you and it is really quite tiresome. What goes through your head? Are you really so dull as to not do any investigation into it? You have a lot of posts yourself and so have seen a lot of flat earth threads, and all you can do is bark from the sidelines.

    You're also being totally dishonest in misrepresenting our arguments. You should know FULL WELL that the basis of the flat earth arguments is NOT that NASA can't be trusted. You KNOW THIS! It is about the lack of curvature. But to make inflate your ego, you skirt around this and make a lot of ad hominem attacks and come up with straw men.

    At least Neil makes some kind of quasi scientific attempt to argue with us. You're just a time waster.
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    Looks like OCHA has ruffled your feathers, birdbrain.  :jester:
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    Flat-tards are trolls, even on their own dark corner nowhere website, which they keep going by conspiracy.
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    What an embarrassment. How do you sleep at night? Wait -- you don't. You stay up posting nonsense HAHAHAHA
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    Get a life and wake up to the reality. 
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    Or, on the other hand, you could just go on lying, and lying in wait.............  :o
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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #64 on: August 23, 2017, 06:09:06 PM »
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  • To date no serious refutation of flat earth, no proof of the globe, either scientific, from reason,  or from Tradition. Globalist indoctrination only. 


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #65 on: August 23, 2017, 07:03:33 PM »
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  • You flat-earthers are really missing out.
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    There is a profusion of flat-earther videos posted on YouTube claiming the eclipse was a HOAX!


    NASA 100 % PROOF THE SOLAR ECLIPSE WASN'T REAL
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    They whine and moan that there is no moon in the sky while the moon is moving in front of the sun.
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    But their lousy camera equipment has no filters so of course you can't see the moon under overexposure.
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    Then at 4:45 to 4:58 you get the Diamond Ring effect but since they don't know what that is, nobody identifies it!!
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    "IT COVERED THE SUN SUPER FAST AND THEN SAT THERE AND DIDNT MOVE EVER AGAIN" they have on the screen at 5:10.

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    The Bad Fruits of Flat-Earthism                
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    "Nothing passed in front of the sun!!
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    FAKE ECLIPSE August 21 2017 - Something went Wrong - "Graphics" in The "HOLOGRAPHIC SKY" ...
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    Nothing caused the sun eclipse today! It's a whole new ball game now!
    Welcome to Flat-Earth!! NASA, you are SUCH LIARS!!

    This was totally unexpected -- there was nothing blocking the sun's light -- just nothing there!!!
    Something ELSE eclipsed the sun today, it wasn't the moon! There was no moon there!!!!!!!
    We have some very top people working on this!
    As soon as we have something, we'll let you know!!!
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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #66 on: August 23, 2017, 07:07:41 PM »
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  • To date no serious refutation of flat earth, no proof of the globe, either scientific, from reason,  or from Tradition. Globalist indoctrination only.
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    Another flat-tard lying in wait, eh?  :jester:   :jester:   :jester:
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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #67 on: August 23, 2017, 07:22:22 PM »
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    Here is "God's flat-earth" and their eclipse explanation.



    Solar Eclipse Hoax - Exposing the Global Lies from God's Enclosed Flat Earth System

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    They say, "Never look at the sun" -- what are they trying to HIDE?
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    We are never told, "Never look at the moon."
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    What are they trying to hide?

    The lies continue, and still people continue to believe
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                             Seriously?

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    Hey, maybe you ought to just go ahead and look, then you can prove how wrong they are? Eh?   :jester:   :facepalm:   :sleep:
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    They even quote from the Book of Enoch, which is apocryphal. But they treat it as Scripture. -- NOT!!


    The Bad Fruits of the Flat-Earth Position                       


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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #68 on: August 24, 2017, 04:24:19 AM »
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    On the contrary, you (like your buddy kiwiboy) are a liar. Liar, liar, pants on fire!!  :jester:
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    I most certainly did go through that video, page by page, and commented on all its errors, but you were not a member at the time so you wouldn't know about it, nonetheless, your saying otherwise makes you a liar. I did comment.
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    The last time someone asked about "the 500 feet we can't see" his question made no sense and I didn't know what he was asking about so I replied, "What 500 feet are you asking about?" But he never replied. Is that my fault?
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    So here you are doing the same thing. Provide a minute number in the video for this missing 500 feet to which you refer and I'll give you a second chance. But if you don't respond, then I'm sorry, you're just like your friend -- impossible.
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    Even if you did write that question (which you didn't), you already know the answer, and thus you are just wasting time. The answer is clear from the the fact that the video shows that we should not see nearly 600 feet of the mountain (500 feet conceding your absurd adjustments).
    Pointing to a "minute" in the video is ridiculous. The WHOLE video is about the missing feet that we should not see.

    And another video for those interested in this proof
    "....I am at a loss what to say respecting those who, when they have once erred, consistently persevere in their folly, and defend one vain thing by another" - Church Father Lactentius on the globe earth

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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #69 on: August 24, 2017, 02:16:59 PM »
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  • I was talking to my parish priest about this thread yesterday. At first, he didn't really believe me when I told him that there are groups who argue that you can't be a good Catholic without accepting that the earth is flat. So I brought out my laptop, logged in and let him read.

    To say that he was stunned is an understatement. He was very clear that the church totally, absolutely 100% accepts the mainstream scientific teaching on geography, geology, cosmology, physics, astronomy and all the rest. As far as he is concerned, the earth is round, has always been round, and will be round for as long as it exists. One of his comments on those who believe otherwise was 'poor, benighted fools.'

    My PP is well connected with the Irish hierarchy, and he was able to tell me categorically that flat-earthism would be laughed out the door of the arch-episcopal palace in +Armagh, down the hill and cross country to the coast, where it would join with the snakes that the Blessed Patrick swept into the sea for us.
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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #70 on: August 24, 2017, 03:09:58 PM »
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  • I was talking to my parish priest about this thread yesterday. At first, he didn't really believe me when I told him that there are groups who argue that you can't be a good Catholic without accepting that the earth is flat. So I brought out my laptop, logged in and let him read.

    To say that he was stunned is an understatement. He was very clear that the church totally, absolutely 100% accepts the mainstream scientific teaching on geography, geology, cosmology, physics, astronomy and all the rest. As far as he is concerned, the earth is round, has always been round, and will be round for as long as it exists. One of his comments on those who believe otherwise was 'poor, benighted fools.'

    My PP is well connected with the Irish hierarchy, and he was able to tell me categorically that flat-earthism would be laughed out the door of the arch-episcopal palace in +Armagh, down the hill and cross country to the coast, where it would join with the snakes that the Blessed Patrick swept into the sea for us.
    well of course new-rome would accept round earth heresy. the earth has to be flat or it couldnt rest on the back of the tortoise.
    its just further proof that the vatican II church is out of step with tradition and is in the clutches of satan.


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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #71 on: August 24, 2017, 03:53:59 PM »
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  • Even if you did write that question (which you didn't), you already know the answer, and thus you are just wasting time. The answer is clear from the the fact that the video shows that we should not see nearly 600 feet of the mountain (500 feet conceding your absurd adjustments).
    Pointing to a "minute" in the video is ridiculous. The WHOLE video is about the missing feet that we should not see.

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    I did reply to questions about this video, but I can't find the posts now. Maybe the video was a different version (video number?), when it was more recently released, several months ago. But the one I commented on began the same way with the people walking down the stairs and the measurement from Miramar Beach to Anacapa island. 
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    At the start, it begins with a very important inaccuracy, where it has the Camera Height at 3 feet. This is obviously false. You can easily see that the camera is on the sandy beach with rocky pebbles, high above the surf line. The camera might be 3 feet above the sand, but that place on the sand is at least 8 feet above the water level of the ocean, so the camera height is more like 11 feet, not 3 feet.
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    For the next 2 minutes, the video uses this fake beginning as a basis for drawing conclusions, but they're all fake because it started with a wrong elevation.
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    At minute 2 he could easily have had a helper hold a long stick vertically standing at the water's edge (in surveying it's called a Philadelphia Rod - see insert pic) going up to the line of the horizon, and then go measure how high that is (or read the markings on the rod). He doesn't do that because it would show that the camera's height is much greater than the 3 feet that he erroneously claims it is.
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    At 2:47, without explaining what's going on, he suddenly shows footage shot from the top of a hill somewhere and has, "I will compare with this image from 560 ft elevation view." Pause the video at minute 3:00 and pay close attention to the low point of the island on the right side, between West Anacapa and Middle Anacapa. You can clearly see the land of the islands coming to a low point and briefly touching the water line, which is the small channel between the two islands. This is the portion of the shot that he eliminates in a few seconds by scrolling up...
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    Then, to compound his error, at minute 3:13 you can see how he scrolls up the picture to eliminate the lower portion of his view, cutting off the bottom part of the island that you could easily see a few seconds before, and he pretends that's the water line viewed from a higher elevation at the beach. But it's not. It is his cropped picture that cuts off the part you could see plainly a few seconds before, at 3:00. Then the cropped picture wiggles up and down for all to see, and at at 3:32 he labels his arbitrary image "View from 560 ft. elevation" when it's not that at all. He just isn't showing the bottom 300 feet of the island!! He has falsified his own view to make it appear to support his bias. It's so obviously a deliberate distortion.
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    Then he says, "LET'S TRY SEA LEVEL" at 3:40, and starts walking down to the water's edge. At 3:57 (pause it to see) halfway down to the water, the top of a surfer's head is touching the horizon line at the distant island's base. That is the point at which the camera is 5 feet above the water, because the surfer's head is 5 feet above the water's surface -- he is standing on his surfboard with his feet at the water's level and he's about 5 feet tall. 
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    At 4:03 he puts his camera down on the sand and you can easily see how the standing surfer out in the water is now with his head up against the sky. The surfer did not rise up, but the camera did lower down, and this lower angle of view changes the appearance of the surfer against the water. You can't see the water surface anymore because it's hidden by the breaking waves.
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    Then at 4:15 the same surfer is shown falling off his surfboard, so you know it's not fake. This is real footage, which is nice to see.
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    At 4:29 the wave washes up toward the camera and you can see the top of the water. The camera is obviously higher than the water's surface (mean sea level) or else you wouldn't be able to see the surface. The fact is, as the waves rush up the sand, the water moves uphill, and the furthest extent of the water's edge is ABOVE sea level by a few feet. This is always the case on the shoreline with breaking waves.
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    If he put his camera down at sea level it would get ruined by the water covering it up, and we wouldn't be seeing any picture at all. Like a periscope on a submarine that isn't quite out of the water yet or gets splashed by a wave.
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    All the way past minute 6 the camera shows views of the water's surface out to sea, proving that the camera is at 3' elevation, or even higher. But he pretends it's at 0, which is clearly false.
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    At 6:00 to 6:08 a surfer paddles past the camera's line of sight, with his head and body entirely below the water's surface in the distance. You would not be able to see that if the camera were at water level. The camera is above water level by at least 3 feet, perhaps 4 feet.
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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #72 on: August 24, 2017, 04:13:56 PM »
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  • An aviator, navigator, or (boat/ship) pilot could tell the same, esp. military,  though I guess they're all "in on it" too. Radar, possibly sonar and comms could as well. Wait… "Masons". I forgot.
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    I did reply to questions about this video, but I can't find the posts now. Maybe the video was a different version (video number?), when it was more recently released, several months ago. But the one I commented on began the same way with the people walking down the stairs and the measurement from Miramar Beach to Anacapa island.
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    At the start, it begins with a very important inaccuracy, where it has the Camera Height at 3 feet. This is obviously false. You can easily see that the camera is on the sandy beach with rocky pebbles, high above the surf line. The camera might be 3 feet above the sand, but that place on the sand is at least 8 feet above the water level of the ocean, so the camera height is more like 11 feet, not 3 feet.
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    For the next 2 minutes, the video uses this fake beginning as a basis for drawing conclusions, but they're all fake because it started with a wrong elevation.
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    At minute 2 he could easily have had a helper hold a long stick vertically standing at the water's edge (in surveying it's called a Philadelphia Rod - see insert pic) going up to the line of the horizon, and then go measure how high that is (or read the markings on the rod). He doesn't do that because it would show that the camera's height is much greater than the 3 feet that he erroneously claims it is.
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    At 2:47, without explaining what's going on, he suddenly shows footage shot from the top of a hill somewhere and has, "I will compare with this image from 560 ft elevation view." Pause the video at minute 3:00 and pay close attention to the low point of the island on the right side, between West Anacapa and Middle Anacapa. You can clearly see the land of the islands coming to a low point and briefly touching the water line, which is the small channel between the two islands. This is the portion of the shot that he eliminates in a few seconds by scrolling up...
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    Then, to compound his error, at minute 3:13 you can see how he scrolls up the picture to eliminate the lower portion of his view, cutting off the bottom part of the island that you could easily see a few seconds before, and he pretends that's the water line viewed from a higher elevation at the beach. But it's not. It is his cropped picture that cuts off the part you could see plainly a few seconds before, at 3:00. Then the cropped picture wiggles up and down for all to see, and at at 3:32 he labels his arbitrary image "View from 560 ft. elevation" when it's not that at all. He just isn't showing the bottom 300 feet of the island!! He has falsified his own view to make it appear to support his bias. It's so obviously a deliberate distortion.
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    Then he says, "LET'S TRY SEA LEVEL" at 3:40, and starts walking down to the water's edge. At 3:57 (pause it to see) halfway down to the water, the top of a surfer's head is touching the horizon line at the distant island's base. That is the point at which the camera is 5 feet above the water, because the surfer's head is 5 feet above the water's surface -- he is standing on his surfboard with his feet at the water's level and he's about 5 feet tall.
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    At 4:03 he puts his camera down on the sand and you can easily see how the standing surfer out in the water is now with his head up against the sky. The surfer did not rise up, but the camera did lower down, and this lower angle of view changes the appearance of the surfer against the water. You can't see the water surface anymore because it's hidden by the breaking waves.
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    Then at 4:15 the same surfer is shown falling off his surfboard, so you know it's not fake. This is real footage, which is nice to see.
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    At 4:29 the wave washes up toward the camera and you can see the top of the water. The camera is obviously higher than the water's surface (mean sea level) or else you wouldn't be able to see the surface. The fact is, as the waves rush up the sand, the water moves uphill, and the furthest extent of the water's edge is ABOVE sea level by a few feet. This is always the case on the shoreline with breaking waves.
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    If he put his camera down at sea level it would get ruined by the water covering it up, and we wouldn't be seeing any picture at all. Like a periscope on a submarine that isn't quite out of the water yet or gets splashed by a wave.
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    All the way past minute 6 the camera shows views of the water's surface out to sea, proving that the camera is at 3' elevation, or even higher. But he pretends it's at 0, which is clearly false.
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    At 6:00 to 6:08 a surfer paddles past the camera's line of sight, with his head and body entirely below the water's surface in the distance. You would not be able to see that if the camera were at water level. The camera is above water level by at least 3 feet, perhaps 4 feet.
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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #73 on: August 24, 2017, 04:16:36 PM »
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  • I was talking to my parish priest about this thread yesterday. At first, he didn't really believe me when I told him that there are groups who argue that you can't be a good Catholic without accepting that the earth is flat. So I brought out my laptop, logged in and let him read.

    To say that he was stunned is an understatement. He was very clear that the church totally, absolutely 100% accepts the mainstream scientific teaching on geography, geology, cosmology, physics, astronomy and all the rest. As far as he is concerned, the earth is round, has always been round, and will be round for as long as it exists. One of his comments on those who believe otherwise was 'poor, benighted fools.'

    My PP is well connected with the Irish hierarchy, and he was able to tell me categorically that flat-earthism would be laughed out the door of the arch-episcopal palace in +Armagh, down the hill and cross country to the coast, where it would join with the snakes that the Blessed Patrick swept into the sea for us.
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    Thanks for this post Irish_Catholic. 
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    It's interesting to see you mention the snakes St. Patrick cast out of Ireland. I recently read a cynic claiming that there never were any real snakes in Ireland but this legend is based on the historical reality that the saint got rid of all the druids, which are called "snakes" by allegory. What do you think of that? I'd like your reaction since you have a much better point of observation being located in the place of contention.
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    It's not hard to understand that your priest would be stunned. Anyone can observe the direction of the sun's movement by watching the moon in its first quarter phase as it approaches the west after sunset. You ought to tell your priest what flat-earthers say when confronted with this simple sight. 
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    They say that the moon's light isn't coming from the sun but comes from inside the moon. 
    They say that the moon is translucent and you can see stars shining through it. 
    They say the recent total solar eclipse (Aug 21st) was a HOAX perpetrated by NASA. 
    They say you can't measure the angle between the sun and moon because that's demonic to measure angles.
    They say the sun does not set below the horizon and if you had a telescope you would still see the sun at all hours.
    They say the sun and moon are two parts of a celestial battery and they are electric lights.
    They say the sun and moon are the same size and the same distance from the earth.
    They say sometimes the moon goes behind the sun but we just don't notice that happening.
    They cannot answer why the sun and moon don't smash into each other if they're the same distance from earth.
    They cannot answer why the sun always appears the same size when they believe it's so close to the earth.
    They cannot answer why the sun's angle of rise and descent is perpendicular to the horizon at the equator.
    They cannot explain how a sextant only works when used to navigate on a globe.
    They claim that honest astronauts and navigators believe in a flat earth.
    They claim the Church has always taught the earth is flat but cannot provide any examples of this fabled teaching.
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    They accuse anyone who shows how wrong they are of promoting "heresy" which BTW is directed against your priest!!
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    Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
    « Reply #74 on: August 24, 2017, 07:04:48 PM »
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    Thanks for this post Irish_Catholic.
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    It's interesting to see you mention the snakes St. Patrick cast out of Ireland. I recently read a cynic claiming that there never were any real snakes in Ireland but this legend is based on the historical reality that the saint got rid of all the druids, which are called "snakes" by allegory. What do you think of that? I'd like your reaction since you have a much better point of observation being located in the place of contention.
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    It's not hard to understand that your priest would be stunned. Anyone can observe the direction of the sun's movement by watching the moon in its first quarter phase as it approaches the west after sunset. You ought to tell your priest what flat-earthers say when confronted with this simple sight.
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    They say that the moon's light isn't coming from the sun but comes from inside the moon.
    They say that the moon is translucent and you can see stars shining through it.
    They say the recent total solar eclipse (Aug 21st) was a HOAX perpetrated by NASA.
    They say you can't measure the angle between the sun and moon because that's demonic to measure angles.
    They say the sun does not set below the horizon and if you had a telescope you would still see the sun at all hours.
    They say the sun and moon are two parts of a celestial battery and they are electric lights.
    They say the sun and moon are the same size and the same distance from the earth.
    They say sometimes the moon goes behind the sun but we just don't notice that happening.
    They cannot answer why the sun and moon don't smash into each other if they're the same distance from earth.
    They cannot answer why the sun always appears the same size when they believe it's so close to the earth.
    They cannot answer why the sun's angle of rise and descent is perpendicular to the horizon at the equator.
    They cannot explain how a sextant only works when used to navigate on a globe.
    They claim that honest astronauts and navigators believe in a flat earth.
    They claim the Church has always taught the earth is flat but cannot provide any examples of this fabled teaching.
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    They accuse anyone who shows how wrong they are of promoting "heresy" which BTW is directed against your priest!!
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    Wow.  You lied to your priest.  No one here says the solar eclipse was a hoax, that its demonic to measure angles, or that a telescope would allow one to see the sun at all hours.  No one said the sun and moon are the same distance from earth or that the sun's angle of rise and descent is perpendicular to the earth. You failed the astrolabe convo so badly its unbelievable and the sextant can NEVER be used on a globe because it uses line of sight, straight lines and angles to navigate.  Catholic teachings are made on flat earth ONLY and NOT ONE SINGLE CATHOLIC TEACHING says that earth is a globe.  Either you aren't listening or you cannot understand or you're a liar.  You continue to rail without proofs of any kind, yet, scoff at the clues given by Catholic saints, scholars, ancients while shamelessly choosing to believe pagan teaching.  Put up proof of a globe.  Catholic or otherwise.  Skip the garbage that includes the sketchy doctrine of gravity and hopeful nonsense that things just magically stick to a ball and give proof of your pagan theory.