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Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
« Reply #100 on: August 30, 2017, 03:16:38 PM »
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What a laughable pile of bilge-scuм!!
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Your so-called anamolies are all wrong.
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Compasses most certainly do work on a globe. Mariners have been using them for centuries. You know nothing about compasses, apparently. Large ships go to great expense to provide reliable environment for compass location keeping ferrous materials far away from the all-brass enclosure containing the all-important compass you say doesn't work. And their navigation methods all work presuming the spherical shape of the earth, using celestial plotting of stars and dead reckoning by way of projection onto a globe earth. So you're completely wrong.
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Gyros work just fine on a globe. Sailors and pilots use them all the time, and they're used as well in spacecraft and satellites, which you of course claim are entirely fiction. It's flat-earth that's fiction!!
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Sundials work very well on a globe. They work in the northern hemisphere and the southern hemisphere, which, by the way, are called hemispheres for a reason!
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Plane sailing works just fine on a globe, while most sailors don't have to deal with the earth's curvature on a small scale, just as surveyors don't have to, until they have to work with large scale measurements.
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Lighthouses work just fine, too. What some observers fail to recognize is the reflection of a lighthouse over the surface of the ocean at night enables it to be seen from a greater distance than direct line of sight allows, which is a help for sailors so they can tell the direction of a lighthouse even before it's visible by straight line sight.
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Periscopes work just fine too. How silly of you to say they don't. You have no evidence whatsoever. Like saying the horizon rises to the eye of the viewer. No, it doesn't. The horizon remains right where it is. You're wrong on all counts, as usual.
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Star trails work just fine on a globe. They work on earth just like they work on any other planet that has relative motion with the surrounding universe.
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Water surface curves very well, as you can see inside a bowl, where the water conforms to the curves of the bowl. When water is conforming to the surface of the earth the surface of the water follows the shape of the earth. No problem.
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The earth's circuмference and curvature is demonstrated everywhere you go, but you just refuse to look.
 As often as I have invited you to look you utterly refuse, as soon as you realize your golden calf false god of flat-earthism is in danger of being exposed for the fatuous lie that it is.
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It doesn't matter what anyone provides for you, you insist it's fake. All the while it's you that's fake.
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Saying the above does not make it true.  It is impossible for a compass to work on a globe because a compass must be level to point its level arrow at a distant point.  On a globe, a compass would always be pointing out into space.
Gyros and false horizons on a plane do not work on a globe because their mechanism only works on the level, and they never lead a plane to curve.  The gyro keeps a plane level for thousands of miles, impossible on curved surface.  Your statement is ridiculous.
Plane sailing mapped out on a flat map cannot work on a globe because these are always flat and level, not curved.  If earth was curved, the geometry in plane sailing would lead one to the wrong place every time because straight lines are never curved.  
Lighthouse lights would disappear under the curve of a 'horizon' and never do their job if earth were a globe.  Obviously.
Periscopes view well beyond the horizon making it impossible for them to be operating on a globe.  
Star trails work on earth like other planets that have relative motion?  So are you saying earth moves?  Or, that you have been on other 'planets' and proven they have star trails while in motion?  You're burying yourself, Neil.  The above is bad enough, but you're really reaching here.      
Water curves in a bowl?  And the sides of the bowl makes the surface of the water curve?  Do you enjoy suggesting retarded things?
The earth's surface is curved every where I go?  No, it's not.  Curvature commensurate with a globe 25,000 miles in circuмference has NEVER been demonstrated by anyone.  There is more than mile of curvature drop for every 100 miles of surface on a ball that size, something that could be seen easily from the hilltop where I live.  The sides of my view do not decline, let alone the horizon, but all remain level.  Views from miles up never show curve, either.  At least, not without a go pro camera.  Again you bring no proof, just words.

If you brought actual proof of globe earth, no one would think it was fake. Thus far, you have brought nothing that any of us can test or prove for ourselves, but it all contradicts our senses and experience, not to mention science and math, so I know they are fake.  All of us can test water surface and see its flat, see from a hilltop, mountain or airplane that earth is a flat plane, prove that ships don't disappear behind a curve.  But not only do I have empirical proof, scripture never describes a globe, but repeatedly shows from every possible aspect that earth is flat with a dome and water above the dome. The Fathers who teach anything about the shape of the earth support this every time. Popes have condemned heliocentrism, the science of globalists, the science of modern man and the bulwark of the demonic.        
 

Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
« Reply #101 on: August 30, 2017, 03:17:53 PM »
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Yep, just as I said -- he got under your skin!!  :jester:  :facepalm:
Lies got under my skin. 


Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
« Reply #102 on: August 30, 2017, 03:46:18 PM »
Saying the above does not make it true.  It is impossible for a compass to work on a globe because a compass must be level to point its level arrow at a distant point.  On a globe, a compass would always be pointing out into space.
Gyros and false horizons on a plane do not work on a globe because their mechanism only works on the level, and they never lead a plane to curve.  The gyro keeps a plane level for thousands of miles, impossible on curved surface.  Your statement is ridiculous.
Plane sailing mapped out on a flat map cannot work on a globe because these are always flat and level, not curved.  If earth was curved, the geometry in plane sailing would lead one to the wrong place every time because straight lines are never curved.  
Lighthouse lights would disappear under the curve of a 'horizon' and never do their job if earth were a globe.  Obviously.
Periscopes view well beyond the horizon making it impossible for them to be operating on a globe.  
Star trails work on earth like other planets that have relative motion?  So are you saying earth moves?  Or, that you have been on other 'planets' and proven they have star trails while in motion?  You're burying yourself, Neil.  The above is bad enough, but you're really reaching here.      
Water curves in a bowl?  And the sides of the bowl makes the surface of the water curve?  Do you enjoy suggesting retarded things?
The earth's surface is curved every where I go?  No, it's not.  Curvature commensurate with a globe 25,000 miles in circuмference has NEVER been demonstrated by anyone.  There is more than mile of curvature drop for every 100 miles of surface on a ball that size, something that could be seen easily from the hilltop where I live.  The sides of my view do not decline, let alone the horizon, but all remain level.  Views from miles up never show curve, either.  At least, not without a go pro camera.  Again you bring no proof, just words.

If you brought actual proof of globe earth, no one would think it was fake. Thus far, you have brought nothing that any of us can test or prove for ourselves, but it all contradicts our senses and experience, not to mention science and math, so I know they are fake.  All of us can test water surface and see its flat, see from a hilltop, mountain or airplane that earth is a flat plane, prove that ships don't disappear behind a curve.  But not only do I have empirical proof, scripture never describes a globe, but repeatedly shows from every possible aspect that earth is flat with a dome and water above the dome. The Fathers who teach anything about the shape of the earth support this every time. Popes have condemned heliocentrism, the science of globalists, the science of modern man and the bulwark of the demonic.        
 
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You're getting it wrong so consistently. You would fail science class infallibly!
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"It is impossible for a compass to work on a globe because a compass must be level to point its level arrow at a distant point.  On a globe, a compass would always be pointing out into space."
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No, not true. A compass is level when it's held that way, and on ships they have it immersed in a liquid environment so it floats all the time. Of course, you don't know what I mean by "floats" because you're a flat-earther. On the globe of the earth, the compass always points toward magnetic north, which if you follow out past the horizon would be pointing out into space, true, but we don't have to follow it that far, obviously. Are you just pretending to be dense or is it the reality?
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"Again you bring no proof, just words."
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Every proof I provide you say is "just words." Are you a follower of Friedrich Nietzsche? 
He accused the Church and Scripture of being "just words." 

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Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
« Reply #103 on: August 30, 2017, 03:58:14 PM »
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You're getting it wrong so consistently. You would fail science class infallibly!
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"It is impossible for a compass to work on a globe because a compass must be level to point its level arrow at a distant point.  On a globe, a compass would always be pointing out into space."
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No, not true. A compass is level when it's held that way, and on ships they have it immersed in a liquid environment so it floats all the time. Of course, you don't know what I mean by "floats" because you're a flat-earther. On the globe of the earth, the compass always points toward magnetic north, which if you follow out past the horizon would be pointing out into space, true, but we don't have to follow it that far, obviously. Are you just pretending to be dense or is it the reality?
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"Again you bring no proof, just words."
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Every proof I provide you say is "just words." Are you a follower of Friedrich Nietzsche?
He accused the Church and Scripture of being "just words."

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Knock knock.  Hello.  Earth to Neil.  If you hold a compass anything but level, the arrow locks up and won't freely point. If I was on the side of the globe in California for instance, and stood facing north, and held the compass level, it would never point north toward the top of the globe.  And if it did point to the top of the globe, it would be cockeyed and not level, the top of the globe being at a steep angle below my feet.   :ready-to-eat:    

Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
« Reply #104 on: August 30, 2017, 06:05:30 PM »
Knock knock.  Hello.  Earth to Neil.  If you hold a compass anything but level, the arrow locks up and won't freely point. If I was on the side of the globe in California for instance, and stood facing north, and held the compass level, it would never point north toward the top of the globe.  And if it did point to the top of the globe, it would be cockeyed and not level, the top of the globe being at a steep angle below my feet.   :ready-to-eat:    
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If you don't know how to use a compass, that's not my problem. Level means like the surface of water, not pointing up. 
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Duuuuh.
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