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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: St. Thomas on the "butterfly effect"!
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2018, 09:48:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: forlorn on April 24, 2018, 01:40:48 PM
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    Interesting, seeing as St. Thomas believed in the globe earth.
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    St. Thomas Aquinas was a profound thinker who recognized the astounding intelligence of Aristotle from his writings.
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    Keep in mind only a small fraction of Aristotle's written works survived those 1400 years that separated him from St. Thomas.
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    When repeatable experiment is adequately described it can be verified, which is the basis of the scientific method.
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    Re: St. Thomas on the "butterfly effect"!
    « Reply #16 on: April 26, 2018, 02:15:40 AM »
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    • Quote from: forlorn on April 24, 2018, 01:40:48 PM
    Interesting, seeing as St. Thomas believed in the globe earth.
    have you read the relevant quotes by St thomas? I dont think you have.
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    "....I am at a loss what to say respecting those who, when they have once erred, consistently persevere in their folly, and defend one vain thing by another" - Church Father Lactentius on the globe earth

    Offline Jaynek

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    Re: St. Thomas on the "butterfly effect"!
    « Reply #17 on: April 26, 2018, 07:34:08 AM »
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    • Quote from: hismajesty on April 26, 2018, 02:15:40 AM
    have you read the relevant quotes by St thomas? I dont think you have.
    I have and it is clear that he accepts that the earth is a sphere.
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    Re: St. Thomas on the "butterfly effect"!
    « Reply #18 on: April 26, 2018, 10:53:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: hismajesty on April 26, 2018, 02:15:40 AM
    have you read the relevant quotes by St thomas? I dont think you have.
    He was a geocentrist who remarked that the model might be replaced in future. He never even mentioned the flat earth. 
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    Re: St. Thomas on the "butterfly effect"!
    « Reply #19 on: April 26, 2018, 12:43:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: forlorn on April 26, 2018, 10:53:39 AM
    He was a geocentrist who remarked that the model might be replaced in future. He never even mentioned the flat earth.
    He did mention the fact that the earth is a sphere in passing.  There is a flat earth site which purports to debunk this by claiming that his comments on spherical earth are a quote from Aristotle.

    However, if one checks the relevant passage in Aristotle, one an see that St. Thomas is alluding to it but not quoting it.  Also, in Latin, there is no ambiguity on whether St. Thomas agrees with what he is writing about spherical earth.  In Latin, when quoting or alluding to the beliefs of others which one thinks are untrue, one uses the subjunctive mood of the verb.  The St. Thomas passage referring to spherical earth, however, has the verbs in indicative, which means he thinks the statements are true.
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: St. Thomas on the "butterfly effect"!
    « Reply #20 on: May 05, 2018, 01:34:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on April 26, 2018, 12:43:20 PM
    He did mention the fact that the earth is a sphere in passing.  There is a flat earth site which purports to debunk this by claiming that his comments on spherical earth are a quote from Aristotle.

    However, if one checks the relevant passage in Aristotle, one an see that St. Thomas is alluding to it but not quoting it.  Also, in Latin, there is no ambiguity on whether St. Thomas agrees with what he is writing about spherical earth.  In Latin, when quoting or alluding to the beliefs of others which one thinks are untrue, one uses the subjunctive mood of the verb.  The St. Thomas passage referring to spherical earth, however, has the verbs in indicative, which means he thinks the statements are true.
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    Congratulations, Jaynek, for surviving a whole week without an ignorant flat-earther complaining that your Latin grammar isn't accurate.
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    Now where is Ladislaus to complain that "reviving a dormant thread" is childish?  HAHAHAHA
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