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Offline Mat183

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Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2025, 10:25:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 20, 2025, 09:45:33 PM
    We do, since we're all beginning to suspect that you're just a troll ... and so answering the question would help us determine whether you're trolling.

    If I was a troll, I would not be too reliable in answering the question since trolls are notorious deceivers.  That said, I will tell you for whatever it may be worth, that I am anything but a troll.  P.S.  As a matter of fact, although I don't always agree with you, I have given you a good number of up votes! 
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #16 on: October 21, 2025, 07:25:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mat183 on October 20, 2025, 10:25:05 PM
    If I was a troll, I would not be too reliable in answering the question since trolls are notorious deceivers.  That said, I will tell you for whatever it may be worth, that I am anything but a troll.  P.S.  As a matter of fact, although I don't always agree with you, I have given you a good number of up votes!

    Well, you could just be a troll on some issues, such as this one.  When you open a thread by citing Grok as your authority, one has to wonder.  I mean, there are Catholic sources you can cite ... whereas Grok clearly rests upon atheistic premises.
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #17 on: October 21, 2025, 10:06:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mat183 on October 20, 2025, 10:25:05 PM
    If I was a troll, I would not be too reliable in answering the question since trolls are notorious deceivers.  That said, I will tell you for whatever it may be worth, that I am anything but a troll.

    You didn't answer the question; you merely claim you are not a troll and, thus, not a deceiver.  Now, I realize that you think you are rather clever.  Frankly, if you were half as clever as you think you are, you'd be dangerous.  However, that is clearly not the case.  It is not that difficult or complicated: Answer the question or accept that you will remain suspect.
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #18 on: October 21, 2025, 10:17:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on October 20, 2025, 03:44:59 PM
    Who cares?  Who created and controls Grok?
    You tell me and we will both know.
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #19 on: October 21, 2025, 10:42:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on October 20, 2025, 04:18:06 PM
    What do you believe?  Geocentrism?  Heliocentrism?

    These are the questions you haven't answered and your exchange with Lad makes it crystal clear you know that.  Your handling of this simple matter is only (notably) adding to the suspicion that you are neither honest nor sincere.  You can change that with ease, but are continually choosing to refuse to do so.  Again, your own assessment of your intelligence, abilities, etc., is clearly inaccurate.  No biggie and certainly nothing new around these parts, but I readily admit it does get tiresome.  C'est la vie... 
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #20 on: October 21, 2025, 11:38:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on October 21, 2025, 10:42:22 AM
    These are the questions you haven't answered and your exchange with Lad makes it crystal clear you know that.  Your handling of this simple matter is only (notably) adding to the suspicion that you are neither honest nor sincere.  You can change that with ease, but are continually choosing to refuse to do so.  Again, your own assessment of your intelligence, abilities, etc., is clearly inaccurate.  No biggie and certainly nothing new around these parts, but I readily admit it does get tiresome.  C'est la vie...

    I am a strong believer in geocentrism based on science, tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the Magisterium.  As the so called sword of truth, it is a sad spectacle to see how your forte is one of ad hominum attacks.  A sword of truth should not have to avail itself of silly personal insults.
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #21 on: October 21, 2025, 01:34:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 21, 2025, 07:25:42 AM
      When you open a thread by citing Grok as your authority, one has to wonder. 

    Contrary to your claim, I never once cited Grok as my authority.  It was clearly presented as one AI's take on the matter.  You can take it or leave it.  The very words I used -- "Grok fires away" -- set the tone for my taking it with a grain of salt.
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #22 on: October 21, 2025, 01:57:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mat183 on October 21, 2025, 11:38:50 AM
    I am a strong believer in geocentrism based on science, tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the Magisterium.

    That wasn't so hard, was it?  Thank you for answering the question.
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #23 on: October 21, 2025, 02:08:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mat183 on October 21, 2025, 11:38:50 AM
    As the so called sword of truth, it is a sad spectacle to see how your forte is one of ad hominem attacks.  A sword of truth should not have to avail itself of silly personal insults.

    I prodded you until you did as initially asked.  Thank you for finally doing so.  Would that such were not necessary, but that was your doing.

    Accurate observations about a man's continued avoidance of the issue at hand are not ad hominem "attacks" and only a soft, oversensitive, evasive man would pretend they were such.  If you act as an honest, sincere contributor here, you will be treated as such and your contributions will be duly appreciated.  If otherwise, be prepared to be treated accordingly.   
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #24 on: October 21, 2025, 02:20:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mat183 on October 21, 2025, 01:34:43 PM
    I never once cited Grok as my authority.

    You have cited Grok repeatedly, even going so far on one occasion as to quote and re-post your own very recent Grok citation in bold, adding even more Grok-speak to said citation.  It seems reasonable to conclude you are leaning upon Grok as if it were a reliable source or authority.  If you think it is, fine.  Clearly some others do not.  You may take or leave such assessment, but those are the available, undisputable facts. 
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #25 on: October 21, 2025, 02:21:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mat183 on October 21, 2025, 02:15:00 PM
    You are quite pretentious, and you do a lot of projecting.  On a separate matter are you an alcoholic?  People who live in glass bottles......

    Gee, nothing personal to see here...lol.
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #26 on: October 21, 2025, 07:24:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mat183 on October 21, 2025, 06:53:01 PM
    More projection.  You, yourself are often personal.  So what's your answer oh truth teller, oh sword of truth?  Or do you just want to be coy and evasive ...lol.  Can you handle the truth?  Can you not just answer my simple question.  Are you an alcoholic?
    You wouldn't happen to be a returned banned member would you?

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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #27 on: October 21, 2025, 07:51:21 PM »
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    • Mat183, you seem to have a grudge against Gladius going back years, like over a decade. Your accusations are random, wild and completely out of left field. Can you show me a single post in the last 10 years that even suggests that Gladius MIGHT be an alcoholic? Where are you getting something so random?

    You joined in Feb 2024. How do you come off acting like you know Gladius, well enough to accuse him of very specific sins? He hasn't done nearly as much posting on the forum the past few years as he used to "back in the day".

    I will echo St. Giles' question: are you an old (banned) member returned?
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #28 on: October 21, 2025, 08:03:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on October 21, 2025, 07:51:21 PM
    I will echo St. Giles' question: are you an old (banned) member returned?

    Very likely.  He knows too much, and people simply don't lurk for over a decade without signing up.
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    Re: Speculative Reasoning for FE and for GE
    « Reply #29 on: October 21, 2025, 08:31:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on October 21, 2025, 07:51:21 PM
    Mat183, you seem to have a grudge against Gladius going back years, like over a decade. Your accusations are random, wild and completely out of left field. Can you show me a single post in the last 10 years that even suggests that Gladius MIGHT be an alcoholic? Where are you getting something so random?

    You joined in Feb 2024. How do you come off acting like you know Gladius, well enough to accuse him of very specific sins? He hasn't done nearly as much posting on the forum the past few years as he used to "back in the day".

    I will echo St. Giles' question: are you an old (banned) member returned?

    What sins have I accused Gladius of?  If anything, he accuses himself?  cf. Matt 7:16 

     Feel free to ban me.  It's your call.  I will pray for Gladius.  I know him.  I know what it's like.
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