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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Space is fake and gαy
« Reply #210 on: August 19, 2023, 12:36:00 PM »
Last time I checked Sungenis does NOT accept the manned moon landings, and as far as I know he NEVER accepted them.  Hmmm.  Strange way to promote NASA.

Did you read his FE book?  He spent a significant amount of time defending the integrity of NASA.

Offline Tradman

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Re: Space is fake and gαy
« Reply #211 on: August 19, 2023, 01:04:29 PM »
He  cites their satellite images, and the Planck probe. 

Sungenis also claims he doesn't believe in the Big Bang, but plenty of the sources in his books are admittedly Big Bangers.  Even if Sungenis departs from the Big Bang theory, he's still employing their science.  Planck himself (1858-1947), a German scientist around the time of the first world war is already dubious with his Lutheran background, liberal German politics, interaction with Hitler, scientific influence, and not to mention, inscrutable theories that are still bandied about in the interest of the Big Bang.

This is where things get interesting because some of the 1600 German scientists who escaped all the WWII trouble regathered in the US to help develop NASA which also sprouted from the likes of the self-acclaimed “wickedest man in the world” Aleister Crowley, Mass-Mind-Control-Black Magician-Satanist L. Ron Hubbard and Occultist-Black Magician-Satanist Jack Whiteside Parsons (JPL) to begin all the early space exploration. In addition to the unholy trinity there were two more later additions to the NASA Dream Team, Werner von Braun and Walt Disney. All these elements were in place to create one of the greatest financial and theological frauds in human history-NASA as well as it's globe.  (See Operation Paperclip) 

If Sungenis woke up, abandoned those idiots, exposed the inconsistencies of their theories (apparently he understands Planck et. al.) and came to the conclusion earth is not a globe, a much larger number of people could rally unopposed against one of the biggest lies in human history. 



Offline Matthew

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Re: Space is fake and gαy
« Reply #212 on: August 19, 2023, 06:01:52 PM »
Did you read his FE book?  He spent a significant amount of time defending the integrity of NASA.

Now that is cringe.

I'm sure about few things, as much as I'm sure that NASA is a fraud. I've seen them caught in WAY too many lies to have any trust for them. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

Regardless of the shape of the earth, I'm 100% certain that NASA is completely deceptive. The moon landings are only the beginning of it.

Thank God for people like David Weiss and other Flat Earthers who, despite their flaws, have done God's own work in exposing NASA's lies and deception. And no, it doesn't require trusting them. Just look at the evidence! It speaks for itself. You don't have to trust these characters. They are just leading you to water. You make your own conclusions -- which are inescapable, I might add.

All these Flat Earthers do is ask the right questions, demonstrate evidence, connect the dots -- and gently help you to draw the right conclusions. You're free to disagree, if they're illogical. But they're not. The evidence is always indisputable. They do an EXCELLENT job making their case, 99% of the time.

Re: Space is fake and gαy
« Reply #213 on: August 19, 2023, 08:05:40 PM »
He  cites their satellite images, and the Planck probe. 

Yes, indeed.  Sungenis does cite the findings of the Planck probe.  (Are Flat Earthers against those findings?)  And why exactly does Sungenis do this? 

 The European Space Agency, in cooperation with NASA sent up the Planck probe in 2009.  The findings of the probe did not support the Big Bang model as NASA, no doubt, was hoping it would.  The Big Bang theory and the cosmological principle were actually falsified by the 2013 Planck data.  To cut to the chase -- the Planck data dramatically support a geocentric universe.  There is no getting around that fact.  So... thank you ESA and thank you NASA!  God can use even his enemies such as NASA and the ESA to show forth the truth!

Offline Tradman

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« Reply #214 on: August 19, 2023, 08:57:46 PM »
Yes, indeed.  Sungenis does cite the findings of the Planck probe.  (Are Flat Earthers against those findings?)  And why exactly does Sungenis do this?

 The European Space Agency, in cooperation with NASA sent up the Planck probe in 2009.  The findings of the probe did not support the Big Bang model as NASA, no doubt, was hoping it would.  The Big Bang theory and the cosmological principle were actually falsified by the 2013 Planck data.  To cut to the chase -- the Planck data dramatically support a geocentric universe.  There is no getting around that fact.  So... thank you ESA and thank you NASA!  God can use even his enemies such as NASA and the ESA to show forth the truth!

NASA and modern scientists are forever changing their data and their minds. Geocentric globe one day, Heliocentric squash-blossom tomorrow. Who can trust them? Water on Jupiter?  Or was it Mars? I can't remember. Maybe Elon's car will land on the moon.  Here's a snippet about Planck theoretical satellite from 2013.  Bunch of lying storytellers. 

https://blog.ted.com/planck-satellite-data-what-it-can-tell-us-about-the-universe/

Today—March 21, 2013—the much-anticipated cosmological results from the Planck satellite have been released. In a recent blog post on her own website, TED Fellow and cosmologist Renée Hlozek describes why this is a big day for astrophysics and cosmology. We asked her to explain what the excitement is all about.

“Planck is the ‘next generation’ satellite that measures the tiny fluctuations in the temperature and polarisation of the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) – which is light that comes from shortly after the Big Bang, and has been travelling towards us for over 13 billion years,” she says.
“Planck has been operating in space since 2009, and will dramatically increase the precision with which we can measure this radiation, which tells us about the physical conditions of the universe at very early times. We use this data to fit a cosmological model, to figure out what the universe is made of, its properties and how it is changing with time. So today is a big day because it further refines our picture of where we came from and where we are going on the grandest scales imaginable!”