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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Space is fake and gαy
« Reply #105 on: August 08, 2022, 09:13:10 AM »
Do you know if there's a full version of the interview so we can know whether or not the clip is pulled out of context?

Yeah, the allegation is that he was joking.  Hard to tell for sure.  If he was joking, it was very dry humor ... but then you'd almost have to be a native Pole with a better feel for their culture to cut through it.  To me, the look on his face suggests that he's uncomfortable saying it, but who knows? ... between his culture and his personality.

If you look at 1:18 - 1:20, right after he's asked the question, he looks dead serious.  At 1:22 he cracks a smile as he says, "I didn't expect this question."  If the whole thing was just a joke, as the globers claim, I don't see him saying that part.  Globers claim that the entire interview was a stream of jokes, but then why did he seem taken aback by this question?  Then afterwards he has this almost worried look on his face, like ... why did I say that?

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Space is fake and gαy
« Reply #106 on: August 08, 2022, 09:33:07 AM »
from the globers about the interview:
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In the interview, he received some ridiculous questions, and he answered them with equally ridiculous answers in a joking tone, including the question at the end of the interview where he was asked if Earth is flat. The General was surprised by the question, but he decided to play along and answered “it is flat” for a hilarious ending.

Sure, the "hilarity" was almost palpable.  If the entire interview contained a bunch of "ridiculous questions," then why was he "surprised" by yet another one?  Person who wrote this likely never saw the entire interview and was just making stuff up.

Where did he pick up on this "joking tone"?  If there was a joke, it was dry humor and there was absolutely no "joking tone".  Expression on his face and then the smile when he said "I didn't expect this question." suggest otherwise, that he was genuinely surprised by this last question ... after a string of ridiculous questions ... and he looked very uncomfortable.

Nor was "he asked if Earth is flat".  He was asked if the earth is a ball in space.

Whoever wrote this, please provide a link to the full interview (since I've never been able to find it even through various offbeat search engines, such as Yandex) ... since you claim to have seen the entire thing.  Otherwise, I'm calling BS and yet another lie by a glober.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Space is fake and gαy
« Reply #107 on: August 08, 2022, 09:51:53 AM »
That pictures at the beginning is funny, with the Flat Earther holding up an FE map next to him, but there's another interview that an ex-Soviet cosmonaut gave on a Portuguese station where he says that no one has ever been to space.  You can sense the hilarity in his answer as well.

https://twitter.com/ryaanfep/status/1326525775885955072?lang=en

Offline Matthew

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Re: Space is fake and gαy
« Reply #108 on: August 08, 2022, 10:06:14 AM »

This pattern is even more striking when you talk about the sun. If they think the sun isn't rotating around the globe of the earth, you'd think their first priority would be to figure out what, then, it is doing up there and how. But no, all they do is say casually that it is somehow magically floating in the air, suspended in space, defying the universal attraction of all things downward to the surface of the earth. Not only that, but it is somehow propelled across the surface of the earth. What propels it? Most of them don't seem to ever have thought of the question at all. Then again, they claim it moves in a circular motion. This again is impossible, since any object we see moving through the air moves in a straight line, at least in the atmosphere of the earth. They can't even claim some gravitational pull makes it rotate somehow, since they reject such. But the weirdest thing is not so much that they don't have a way to explain even the most basic components of their theory, but the way they don't even see the need to do so, even when challenged on these things by globe earthers. They can only make statements like, "Just because I don't know doesn't mean the earth is a globe." What?

I'm not God. I don't know how he made the Sun, and the powers of Heaven. Maybe we're not yet qualified to know or interfere with these powers yet? Kind of like Man still doesn't actually understand what LIFE is -- yet it's there, undeniable, all around us! Why not just speculate about what the Firmament is made of -- or more to the point, what it's like to be God? How does God create stuff? Does He think about it? Why did God decide to create Creation when He did? What did He "do" all day long 15 trillion years ago?

See how silly those questions are?

I know that SOME or even MOST globers are ATHEISTS*, but almost NO flat earthers are. The "lowest life form" religious-wise in the Flat Earth community is the kooky new age type -- but they always have a "spiritual" bent. They believe in a higher power, and believe that human life has meaning. No materialists/atheists in the FE community, which is something at least.

How about we keep some awe and reverence for God's creation. Not everything is meant to be put in a test tube with the goal of completely wrapping our meat brains around it -- usually for purposes of manipulating and controlling it.

By the way, your paragraph above is a red herring. You're still thinking in terms of gravity. You think that even under a firmament on a flat earth, the sun must necessarily be "attracted" to the earth by Gravity. NO! There is no Gravity either -- that's part of the Ball Earth paradigm!

And I don't think you understand how arguing against Universal Propaganda works. Something as widely held as the Globe spinning ball paradigm has to be proven silly before people are going to listen to ANY "alternative" explanations. You can't just start with the alternate explanations. Until you show the gaping holes in the spinning ball paradigm...

Plus it's like 9/11. You can know that the 9/11 Official Story is BS but still not have the Intel about HOW EXACTLY the job was pulled off. Being able to provide all the details for "what really happened" is NOT required in blowing the lid off a HOAX. You still do the world a service by establishing that a given story is a hoax. Can you provide the truth then, afterward? It's NICE, it's IDEAL, IF YOU CAN -- but it's not always possible for various reasons.

As for your bit about maps, there are plenty of Flat Earth maps that I've seen many times, brought out when they talk about flight plans. Those maps seem to work better than the globe alternative. So they certainly exist, and were brought out otherwise I wouldn't have seen them!


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"Most globers are atheists" might sound extreme, but I'm talking about practical atheism. How many people believe in evolution, that time & chance created everything, as opposed to the literal interpretation of Genesis? The former is atheism. I don't care if they go to some wishy-washy protestant service once in a while for NETWORKING and BUSINESS opportunities. If they don't modify their life, what they do on a daily basis, to follow God's commands, then they don't believe in God plain and simple. TL;DR: Only "fundamentalist" protestants count for anything. They are much more rare than "protestants" in general.

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Space is fake and gαy
« Reply #109 on: August 08, 2022, 10:56:57 AM »
Yeti, you're arguing for "smoking gun" type of evidence, but that only exists on a Perry Mason tv show.  In real life, even murder trials (which are uber less complicated than understanding the universe) mostly rely on "probabilities" to find a person innocent/guilty.  That's why the litmus test is "reasonable doubt" vs "100% positive".  And a civil case requires only "more likely than not" evidence.

How much more does the understanding of the universe require assumptions, if a serious crime like murder can never have the full story proven (because no one is there to witness the entire murder or preparations or can read minds)?  The very idea that NASA/freemasonic science dare to tell the world they know EXACTLY how the big bang happened or evolution works or how the sun/moon interact with the earth is RIDICULOUS AND NARCISSISTIC to the nth degree.  It's a lie only satan would be unashamed to tell.